[QUOTE=That Guy]I disagree with your statement that everyone is equal... i just don't think its true, and you don't need to be the best stat guy or be pro to be good enough at it, or better than others... there's people here (like me, probably curmudgeon) that make more off bets than we lose, and thats definately a version of stat analysis FOR MONEY, even if its not a primary source of income.

Remember, being a pro at something doesn't mean you're good at it, it just means that you make money off it.

and it really did come off as sounding like you thought brunell wasn't to blame for not scoring points, but it was the D's fault for not putting up more scores...[/QUOTE]


Are you serious? Gambling and winning most of the time is no comparison to having a professional career as an Analyst of Statistics. If you think your'e a kind of pro at statistics because you've won a couple of thousand here and there , then I would encourage you to further your career on a grander scale. I'm sure you've lost more money with Skins than you've won, unless you betted against them.

It was not my intention to blame the defense for the inept performances of Brunell. I was suggesting another way to improve the scoring until the offense kicked in. It is clear that the offense is at rock bottom. I was taught in high school and in college that "the defense wins games." That is to say that turnovers should lead to scores. The Giants are +10 in turnovers and that's why their winning. Not because of the offense because the offense is Tiki Barber and Warner has struggled just like Brunell. When our offense comes off of the bye, we will see a different look at the long pass. Gibbs mentioned that he's working specifically on the long pass which means more big plays. Because the scaled down offense wasn't successful.

Who needs Denim Monger when there are Redskins Fans on this thread who refer to players on the team as 'trash or he sucks' as a serious point to be taken seriously. The

[QUOTE=SUNRA]Who needs Denim Monger when there are Redskins Fans on this thread who refer to players on the team as 'trash or he sucks' as a serious point to be taken seriously. The[/QUOTE]

SUNRA, did your message get cut off or is the "The" after "seriously" just a typo?

[QUOTE=smootsmack]SUNRA, did your message get cut off or is the "The" after "seriously" just a typo?[/QUOTE]


It was cut off. I'll finish my point a little later.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]
Who needs Denim Monger when there are Redskins Fans on this thread who refer to players on the team as 'trash or he sucks' as a serious point to be taken seriously. The[/QUOTE]
Kinda funny you started this thread with saying Noble needed to be cut based on the fact he's an ex-cowboy.

That ranks right up there with "Player X sucks" as a statement that is hard to take seriously too, don't you think?

[quote=SUNRA]I'm sure you've lost more money with Skins than you've won, unless you betted against them.[/quote]
i'm sure you know absolutely nothing about me ;).

its funny how you like to talk out of both sides of your mouth, i don't really care though, but if you think the ginats offense has been struggling, you're flat out wrong. wrong wrong wrong, and comparing their offense to ours right now is beyond silly.

[QUOTE=SUNRA] CRT3 made a comment "Watch and know football, then comment." I had to "check" him because no matter what we watch there will be a different viewpoint on some or all of the subject matter. To make the statement watch and know, then comment presupposes he knows which is arrogant to say the least. No matter what we would like to conceptualize in our minds, not one of us is superior in intellect or analysis because if we were we would be making a living at sports analysis and statistical data. Otherwise you like myself, are just a fan. Not an authority. Just a fan.[/QUOTE]
So what I want to know since you don't read my whole post are the questions I laid out before you. Have some freaken courtsey to answer them then get all worked up about "Watch and know football, then comment"

Are you trying to say that our defense is not playing awsome?

I stated that right?

Are you trying to disagree with me on the fact that our interior linemen have taken up blockers so as to allow the backers and safties to attack the ball?

Do you really think the ball was thrown at Nobles nuts?

I did not state that you suck or have the brain of a ant, what I did state is please watch the game, and at least have enough knowledge about the game to comment on it legitimitly. Hell even Daesal make more valid points. Stop crying about people who are offending you and start talking about football. :nono:

[QUOTE=That Guy]i'm sure you know absolutely nothing about me ;).

its funny how you like to talk out of both sides of your mouth, i don't really care though, but if you think the ginats offense has been struggling, you're flat out wrong. wrong wrong wrong, and comparing their offense to ours right now is beyond silly.[/QUOTE]

Like I said , I was absolutely correct about the Giants offense. The press in New York is already writing them off as a 7-9 team. They will lose to the Vikings this sunday and even more speculation will emerge. But I'm glad to see you wake up in the morning to see which way Sunra goes so you can go in the other direction. Very good.

[QUOTE=CRT3]So what I want to know since you don't read my whole post are the questions I laid out before you. Have some freaken courtsey to answer them then get all worked up about "Watch and know football, then comment"

Are you trying to say that our defense is not playing awsome?

I stated that right?

Are you trying to disagree with me on the fact that our interior linemen have taken up blockers so as to allow the backers and safties to attack the ball?

Do you really think the ball was thrown at Nobles nuts?

I did not state that you suck or have the brain of a ant, what I did state is please watch the game, and at least have enough knowledge about the game to comment on it legitimitly. Hell even Daesal make more valid points. Stop crying about people who are offending you and start talking about football. :nono:[/QUOTE]

I'm a grown ass man. An old man taught me a long time ago. When you throw a stick at a pack of dogs, the only one that yelps is the one the stick hit. If you didn't use that language then why are you responding? If you have a topic that I deem worthy of a response, I will respond. Until then, get your weight up.

[quote=SUNRA]But I'm glad to see you wake up in the morning to see which way Sunra goes so you can go in the other direction. Very good.[/quote]

???

I'm glad you have the maturity of a six year old. very good.

[QUOTE=SUNRA]I'm a grown ass man. An old man taught me a long time ago. When you throw a stick at a pack of dogs, the only one that yelps is the one the stick hit. If you didn't use that language then why are you responding? If you have a topic that I deem worthy of a response, I will respond. Until then, get your weight up.[/QUOTE]
Well now your are talking about a subject that I am a expert in, dog trainning. I am a proffesional dog trainner and kennel operator. Anybody knows you would never throw a stick to one dog yet alone multi dogs as the risk of injury is to great. They get sticks jambed into there thoat. You throw a rubber hose and if you throw it a pack of dogs the only one that will yelp will be the ones in the kennel that don't have the oppurtunity to go after it. But why would you create a fight with dogs like that anyway, that is just cruel.

But can you answer my questions that I have asked. I am responding because you made a inappropriate comment about me, and I will not accept that.

If this thread continues to go nowhere it will be locked

calm down boys

Come on Matty I am trying to get him to back up his statements which he refuses to. I love a good debate and will admit I am wrong but it is unfair for him to say he has tremendous football knowledge then not give us legitamte answers when we call him on it.

I'm all for good debates, unfortunately this doesn't fall under that category.