Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I think clausen will not help the redskins. He's a bust in the making. We should see if we can get tebow in the 2nd round or lefevour later. Great upside on those two at a lower price. Both of those guys can beat you with their wheels and arms. We must get a top OLT with the 4th pick...period.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=geichidanman;677306]I think [B]clausen will not help the redskins. [/B] [B]He's a bust in the making. [/B] We should see if we can get tebow in the 2nd round or[B] lefevour [/B]later. Great upside on those two at a [B]lower price[/B]. Both of those guys [B]can beat you with their wheels and arms[/B]. [B]We must get a top OLT [/B]with the 4th pick...period.[/quote]Thank you. Welcome to the Warpath.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I wouldn't trade up for Clausen at all, nothing about him excites me. If he falls to us in the 2nd round and we take him, I don't think I'd be thrilled but I wouldn't hate it.

But if we actually used two picks to get him via trade, I'd be pretty upset.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=Trample the Elderly;677281]Hmm . . . "At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?"

When he bends over and kisses his own ass.[/quote]

I see, so flexibility is real important to you when looking for a QB.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I'm not sure there's anyone in this draft I would trade up for (though I would consider selling my soul for CJ Spiller, just saying). I would rather trade down and accumulate more picks.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=tootergray34;677243]idiots...Mccoy is going to be awful...why are people thinking we would take him? You have to look at the only 3 QB's that we are interested in seeing work out...bradford, clausen, and tebow. It's going to be one of those 3..and with bradford going first, we are taking clausen...best case scenario is trading our 2nd next year to get another first to get an OL...perhaps Iupiati, or B. Campbell, or A. Davis. BUT, we can't miss on Clausen, he is the best prospect at QB in a while, we will be set if we get him.[/quote]

Who are you calling idiots?

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I've never gotten the hatred for McCoy. He's a four year starter with big game experience and several signature clutch performances. There are legitimate questions about his arm strength, but it's not as if the big three qb's in the league - Manning, Brees, and Brady - didn't face similar questions when drafted. Doesn't mean McCoy will be a good player, but for a second round pick I think whichever team takes him will be getting good value and a potentially very good player.

Clausen on the other hand just gives me the willies. He sends my douchebag meter to redalert.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

I am firmly in the Clausen's a huge bust waiting to happen group. Just a gut feeling, but something about that kid just screams douchebag to me. So to answer the question, i wouldn't trade up at all to pick him. I'll be pissed if we take him in the draft.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=Defensewins;677287]With the relatively high amount of Superbowl winning QB's that that were not drafted high or were on their second or third team when they won it. Drafting a rookie QB high or expending future draft picks to get one does not seem smart. In the last 11 years [B]FIVE[/B] of the SB Winning QB's (Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer and Kurt Warner) all fit into this category.
That combined with large amount of bust QB's taken high in the draft year after year.
Plus throw in the high failure rate of weak teams that drafted QB's high before building their O-line (Lions, Bengals, Browns) doing it over and over again. I do not want my Redskins to included with those teams anymore.
It is already embarrassing enough seeing the Redskins are already included with them as the worst teams in the NFL this decade 2000-2009. During that time (2000-2009) we have already spent two first round picks on QB's Patrick Ramsey (2002) and Jason Campbell (2005). Not to mention the ton of WR's and skill position busts.
It is funny during the time Vinny was being shown the door there was a relative consensus that we needed to build our lines after years of ignoring them in favor of skill position players. I realize we live in an QB drive league since the rules were changed to increase passing. So that is why so many have their Panties in a bunch to get a QB right away. Resist the temptation.
We have a ton of holes to fill. We can get a proven NFL QB in future FA markets or a trade.
OK, I am off my soap box.[/quote]Ultimately, I'm on the side of your soapbox rant. This question is more to address the question of "what is Jimmy Clausen's true value" than to cheer-lead his arrival.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

No way do you trade up for Clausen.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=GTripp0012;677331]Ultimately, I'm on the side of your soapbox rant. This question is more to address the question of "what is Jimmy Clausen's true value" than to cheer-lead his arrival.[/quote]

trade value? Oh, ok...then yes Jimmy Clausen is a douchebag.
Kidding. I have no idea if 'Jimmy' is any good with vaginal hygiene.
But due to the current condition of the Redskins roster and the horrid talent level we have at OL, and given that this draft is strong in OL and RB, and the best OLT might land in our lap, I would not trade up or down for Jimmy Clausen.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=warpaint;677286]COLT MCCOYS STATS
Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2006 217 318 2570 68.2 8.08 72 29 7 14 161.82
2007 276 424 3303 65.1 7.79 62 22 18 24 139.16
2008 332 433 3859 76.7 8.91 91 34 8 24 173.75
2009 332 470 3521 70.6 7.49 88 27 12 30 147.41

JIMMY CLAUSEN
Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2007 138 245 1254 56.3 5.12 44 7 6 35 103.85
2008 268 440 3172 60.9 7.21 69 25 17 21 132.49
2009 289 425 3722 68.0 8.76 88 28 4 24 161.43

TIM TEBOWS
Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2006 22 33 358 66.7 10.85 55 5 1 0 201.73
2007 234 350 3286 66.9 9.39 66 32 6 13 172.47
2008 192 298 2746 64.4 9.22 70 30 4 15 172.37
2009 213 314 2895 67.8 9.22 80 21 5 29 164.17

I would go McCoy Tebow Clausen. I dont understand why you would take a proven loser over proven winners. But I dont know that much about him Just that he has questions about his real charactor.

I tried to get the stats straight so they wouldnt look so crowed but it didnt work.[/quote]
^^^^^
You are a complete idiot, thank God you aren't making any decisions for the Skins! Although I would love it if you got a job in the Cowboys front office.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=murphy196;677344]^^^^^
You are a complete idiot, thank God you aren't making any decisions for the Skins! Although I would love it if you got a job in the Cowboys front office.[/quote]

Uncalled for. Too many people here calling others idiots for no reason.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=Schneed10;677312]I wouldn't trade up for Clausen at all, nothing about him excites me. If he falls to us in the 2nd round and we take him, I don't think I'd be thrilled but I wouldn't hate it.

But if we actually used two picks to get him via trade, I'd be pretty upset.[/quote]
This pretty much sums up my feelings as well, but I think I'd still be initially P.O.'d.

Re: At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?
 

[quote=BleedBurgundy;677326]I am firmly in the Clausen's a huge bust waiting to happen group. Just a gut feeling, but something about that kid just screams douchebag to me. So to answer the question, i wouldn't trade up at all to pick him. I'll be pissed if we take him in the draft.[/quote]
Man, I wish I had read your post before Schneed's, this is EXACTLY how I feel.