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Stacks42 09-20-2010 10:27 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

The Redskins Defense for being last in the NFL and giving up 453 yards per game

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-20-2010 10:42 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
Ouch.... did not know that. Is that passing yards or just yards allowed per game?

I know we aren't last in all categories.

Dirtbag59 09-20-2010 10:51 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=Stacks42;736816][url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2010&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

The Redskins Defense for being last in the NFL and giving up 453 yards per game[/quote]

In todays NFL turnovers and sacks are starting to serve as identifiers for the leagues best defenses. Besides it's only 2 games and one of them was against what I'm not afraid to call the NFL's best offense.

We really should get used to it. We'll be lucky to be in the top 15 of the traditional defensive rankings. The style is now feast or famine. We're either going to destroy teams with our defense or we're going to struggle. What happens will differ on a week to week basis.

hagams 09-20-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
Colt wouldn't have lost:)

artmonkforhallofamein07 09-20-2010 11:04 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
On the flip side we are 7th in the league in passing yards and passing yards per game. Right behind the Texans who are 6th, and in most other categories other than passing we are 14th.

We are mddle of the road in most of the defensive categories. Including points allowed.

In contrast to us in our defensive stats the Cowboys who are 0-2 are in the top 5 in total offense. But in the bottom half in points scored.

So I am not going to put to much in the numbers game.

WE all have to remember that this is week 2 for a completely new defensive scheme. The Packers struggled early last year with their switch to the 3-4, but by the end of the year they were 11-5 and one of the better defenses in the NFL.

skinsfaninok 09-20-2010 11:22 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
Yea our D will play very good at times and bad at others.. Next week I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams only scored once.

Kindoy 09-20-2010 11:27 PM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=Defensewins;736751]I agree to a certain point. One of the things that drives me crazy in a zone cover defense is you need to be very careful when handing off a receiver in the critical 4 to 10 second mark of a pass play. Most smart QB's on a pass play will not hold onto a ball any more than that amount of time and most will deliver the pass in that window.
Why release a receiver in that time span to cover an empty zone? I would rather you stay on a receiver than break off to an empty zone. Plus I would rather a reciever be open underneath than let one loose deep. DB's have to be smart enough and use their own discretion form time to time in a zone. Don't be a robot, use your brain and think.[/quote]

no i totally agree with you, i said he should've made a football play and stayed with johnson... i think that second he took his eyes off andre to check that zone is when we got beat. he should've known that no NFL route takes over 4 seconds to develop and stayed with andre...

Dirtbag59 09-21-2010 12:02 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;736833]Yea our D will play very good at times and bad at others.. Next week I wouldn't be shocked if the Rams only scored once.[/quote]

I would be shocked if the Rams scored. It's going to be one of those bittersweet wins. The type where you're happy to get a win but at the same time you're disappointed that you don't really get much of a feel for where you're at as a football team. Sort of like when we destroyed the Bills during preseason. I just hope we can kill Philly in two weeks. I would take extra pleasure in exposing Vick as a "passer."

Kindoy 09-21-2010 12:14 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;736884]I would be shocked if the Rams scored. It's going to be one of those bittersweet wins. The type where you're happy to get a win but at the same time you're disappointed that you don't really get much of a feel for where you're at as a football team. Sort of like when we destroyed the Bills during preseason. I just hope we can kill Philly in two weeks. I would take extra pleasure in exposing Vick as a "passer."[/quote]

i hope he does one of those heroic scrambles and tries to jump over someone so 30 can knock his head off

sportscurmudgeon 09-21-2010 12:33 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=JoeRedskin;736720]It was all Jason Campbell's fault.[/quote]


Actually, whoever decided to cut Colt Brennan has to take a large measure of blame here too...:cheeky-sm

Chico23231 09-21-2010 08:21 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;736822]In todays NFL turnovers and sacks are starting to serve as identifiers for the leagues best defenses. Besides it's only 2 games and one of them was against what I'm not afraid to call the NFL's best offense.

We really should get used to it. We'll be lucky to be in the top 15 of the traditional defensive rankings. The style is now feast or famine. We're either going to destroy teams with our defense or we're going to struggle. What happens will differ on a week to week basis.[/quote]

Yep, also look at points allowed per game, thats the indicator I look at with most significance when determining a good defense.

To your point of turnovers and sacks...look at the Saints last year. Bottom third of league in yards allowed, but near the lead, if not led, the nfl in turnovers. I would easily call the Saints one of the better defenses in the league last year.

rypper11 09-21-2010 08:50 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;736822]
We really should get used to it. We'll be lucky to be in the top 15 of the traditional defensive rankings. The style is now feast or famine. We're either going to destroy teams with our defense or we're going to struggle. What happens will differ on a week to week basis.[/quote]

Couldn't agree more. I was actually going to include fans who are bitching about aggressive D in the smackdown. People complained last year about no turnovers and sacks but really low yardage. Now our philosophy is the complete opposite and the same people complain.

scowan 09-21-2010 09:16 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
I love the Tuesday Morning QB article that Gregg Easterbrook writes for ESPN this week.
I've cut and pasted an interesting view he has on the Redskins defense from this past Sunday..........

[B]On opening day, Redskins' defensive coordinator Jim Haslett called a dozen safety blitzes against Dallas, a high number, and the Skins escaped with a one-point victory on the final snap. On Sunday, Washington held a comfortable 17-point lead over the visiting Texans late in the third quarter. Play straight defense, and victory is likely. Instead, Haslett called 19 blitzes on the 40 Houston remaining snaps; Washington lost in overtime. Houston ran 40 plays from the late third quarter on? That's the sort of thing that happens against a blitz-wacky defense. Blitz, blitz, blitz resulted in 526 yards of offense, 29 first downs and 30 points allowed.

If you were wondering why NFL teams don't blitz constantly -- listening to sportsyak, you'd think the blitz is a magic formula for instant success -- the Washington collapse against Houston is your answer.

The low point came with the Redskins leading 27-20, the Moo Cows facing fourth-and-10 on the Washington 34 just before regulation's two-minute warning. Washington did not need a sack or turnover, just an incompletion. The Skins blitzed, leaving Andre Johnson -- among the league's best players -- single-covered in the end zone by safety Reed Doughty. Johnson out-leapt Doughty for the touchdown that caused overtime, a great catch. Three Skins defensive backs from the nickel package were standing in the center of the field covering no one, as the opposition's best player was single-covered in the end zone. This is the sort of thing that happens when a team blitzes too much. [/B]

Alvin Walton 09-21-2010 09:22 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
Apparently we will live and die by the blitz this year.
We're gonna need to create more pressure up the middle to make that work.

MTK 09-21-2010 09:28 AM

Re: Plenty of blame to go around, time to lay some smack down!
 
We've got Peyton Manning on the schedule, I shudder to think what he will do to us if we continue to blitz all day. At some point you have to mix things up a bit.


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