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Monkeydad 10-15-2010 10:52 AM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
[quote=Defensewins;747907]I love busting the chops of all of the Cowboy's fans that are front runners. They are all quiet now. Love it. Where is the Cowboy fan that used to come on this sight? Lucy? You got some splaining to do.
If you are a Dallas Cowboy fan and you do not live or ever lived in Texas or ever played for Dallas or do not even have family that lives in Texas...then you are front runner. Look in the mirror...that's right...you!...you are a front runner.
One of my friends here at work is a Dallas Cowboy fan and a NY Yankee fan. HA! What a joke.[/quote]

Bet he's a Lakers fan too.

And Duke.

LavaRnChad 10-15-2010 10:54 AM

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[quote=scowan;747905]Matty you are right......Jerry will never give up control, like Dan Snyder now has done. Jerry will always think he is smarter than the guy or guys he hires. If it ever becomes a question of Jerry hiring a bright GM or coach, Jerry probably wont hire the guy. I think he is a little like a young Al Davis. Also working against Jerry hiring a guy and taking a back seat is the fact that Jerry won Super Bowls early when he had control. His Ego is too big to let go of the controls.[/quote]

Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2010 10:55 AM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
Gurode is the bigger loss, they don't have a backup center and would have to move their starting RG over. I can't believe how many parallels you can find between the Skins of last year and Cowboys this year. They have put up better stats that's for sure, but so many things there are just outta whack. I hope JJ sees the stats and refuses to back out from his position.

firstdown 10-15-2010 12:00 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
[quote=Mattyk;747882]If Jerry would just hire a real coach and GM, and step out of the way, they might be dangerous.

Sounds familiar huh?[/quote]

I also thought this pargraph sounded familiar:

You cannot make losing easy or acceptable, which is what I believe Phillips has done. He has created a culture at Valley Ranch in which he insulates everybody from criticism, never singles anybody out for blame, refuses to hold players accountable and has convinced his team that the media is the cause of any problems. When [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=2550"][COLOR=#225fb2]Leonard Davis[/COLOR][/URL] admitted he is at fault for playing badly and was deservedly, albeit belatedly, benched, Phillips soothed him with praise, referring to him as a Pro Bowl player and returning him to his starting job.

MTK 10-15-2010 12:02 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
Yeah how about the part about certain star players not being available for post game interviews after a L? Accountability is apparently very overrated there.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2010 12:12 PM

Re: Redskins
 
[quote=LavaRnChad;747912]Jerry Jones won't give up control because his method brought him 3 SB rings. Snyder had to change his method because he didn't accomplish ****, and the team actually got worse during his ownership. Snyder had no choice but to change.[/quote]

Well realistically, the 3 SB rings were a carry over effect, and Jimmy Johnson had a LOT to do with them. I would think not having a playoff win for 14 or 15 (or whatever it was) would represent getting worse under JJ also. He doesn't see that because of his very early success. If one good thing came out of the last decade it was the (hopefully permanent) realization by DS that a football team is better off run by professionals and not the owner.

Alvin Walton 10-15-2010 12:18 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
[IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f237/redstout/JRsucks.jpg[/IMG]

Ruhskins 10-15-2010 12:20 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
As much as I hate the Cowboys, and I do enjoy seeing them getting criticized by the media (for once), it is unfortunately early in the season and any team can turn it around. I will be much happier when they are 1-9 or 2-8 and well out of playoff contention.

dblanch66 10-15-2010 12:25 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
Obnoxious. Overrated. Over-hyped. OVER.
Dallas Sucks.

hooskins 10-15-2010 12:44 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
Ed Werner makes some points but is really writing this from his own selfish perspective. To him the heroes are the guys who talk to him, and allow him to get more material for his articles? That's a dumb way to judge which players from the Cowboys have their heads on straight and which ones don't.

It doesn't matter if you shy from the media IMO, just perform.

CrustyRedskin 10-15-2010 12:51 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
[quote=Ruhskins;747952]As much as I hate the Cowboys, and I do enjoy seeing them getting criticized by the media (for once), it is unfortunately early in the season and any team can turn it around. I will be much happier when they are 1-9 or 2-8 and well out of playoff contention.[/quote]

Well said.:food-smil

GTripp0012 10-15-2010 12:58 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
I'm not really sure about the "good ol days" angle of the article. Were things really better under Parcells? They made the postseason twice, went 0-2, and failed to win the division.

Parcells contributed because he put legitimate offensive talent on the roster without a lot of high picks. But Wade has arguably contributed more by developing that first round defensive talent that was ticketed for bust-city.

You can compare their records: Parcells' "accountability" didn't bring Dallas any more wins than Wade's "aw-shucks" attitude.

53Fan 10-15-2010 01:04 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
The Redskins on top of the NFC East...the Cowgirls suck...it's early...but life is good. :food-smil

saden1 10-15-2010 01:43 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
The Cowboys suck because Romo sucks. Romo sucks because their offensive line sucks. Their offensive line sucks because their coaching sucks. Their coaching sucks because Jerry Jones sucks. Cowboys suck.

CRedskinsRule 10-15-2010 01:53 PM

Re: ESPNDallas: Cowboys Have Lowered The Bar
 
[quote=saden1;747973]The Cowboys suck because Romo sucks. Romo sucks because their offensive line sucks. Their offensive line sucks because their coaching sucks. Their coaching sucks because Jerry Jones sucks. Cowboys suck.[/quote]

eloquently put


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