[QUOTE=irish]Ok P, at least the skins won but had the D not scored that TD my score would have been almost exactly correct. The O is pathetic and until those problems are fixed this team cannot be taken seriously.[/QUOTE]

You're absolutely right irish. We could've scored more than 35 points if we would've scored TD's in the redzone.

It all starts with the o-line. We can't get any holes for Clinton in the redzone. Also Gibbs please stop calling plays that have the guard or tackle pulling. We need to run straight at em. Hit em in the mouth.

[QUOTE=Redskins_P]You're absolutely right irish. We could've scored more than 35 points if we would've scored TD's in the redzone.

It all starts with the o-line. We can't get any holes for Clinton in the redzone. Also Gibbs please stop calling plays that have the guard or tackle pulling. We need to run straight at em. Hit em in the mouth.[/QUOTE]

hat on hat, let Portis pick his holes. i thought we learned that. it only took us the whole season, and now we're going back. grrr.

we don;t have the personnel to hit em in the mouth, until we do, we have the personnel to cut block the Dline and outrun the chasing linebackers. not very Gibbs i know.

think Gibbs wanted to experiment his old way against the lowly 9'ers and you could see Portis wasn't happy.

I think we've got to give some credit to the 49ers, they played the run pretty tough and they didn't just roll over for us. San Fran is 13th in the league against the rush, so they're not exactly a pushover.

And didn't Portis end up with 110 yards on the ground? It might not have been a pretty 100 yard day but hey, it got the job done.

Portis did get 100 yds but it took what 45 carries. Thats around 3 yds per carry. Not pretty is the understatement of the week. This O has serious problems and until these are fixed the redskins cant be taken seriously. I knew this would be a close game by the fact of the redskins putrid offense. Every redskin win will be close as long as this offense continues to stink.

Portis was 33 for 103 yards I belive. Not staggering numbers, but stilll got 100.

but 0 TDs, from inside the 10, vs the 49ers. there's a problem there. our DEFENSIVE line had more to do with Portis's carries than our offensive line did.

Checking on nfl.com, portis had 35 carries for 110 yds. Thats 3.1 yds per carry.

checking on nfl.com we got the 'W'

I really don't care how it happened

Irish, we're 5-9, who's taking us seriously anyway??

Yeah we have problems at the goal line, but at least we can move the ball, that's a huge improvement from earlier in the year.

Those 35 carries from Portis helped us have a large advantage in TOP with 36:59 to 23:01.

Like I said, not pretty but effective.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]checking on nfl.com we got the 'W'

I really don't care how it happened [/QUOTE]

vs. any other team in the league i would agree with you.

[QUOTE=illdefined]vs. any other team in the league i would agree with you.[/QUOTE]
It's too late to be worried about style points, at this point I'll take the W's any way they come.

I guess I am confused about scoring TDs is considered "style points". Moving the ball and TOP are great (and so was the W) but having 1st and goal on the 3 vs maybe the worst team in the NFL and not scoring both times is downright lousy.

Its effective vs the bad teams but not scoring against the good teams only ensures a L.

I'm not downplaying the importance of scoring especially when you have 1st and goal, but look at the big picture for a moment. We controlled the clock and most importantly we won the game. It wasn't pretty but a win is always a win no matter how you get to the end result. I doubt the Eagles are complaining after a 12-7 win over Dallas.

Sure it would have been nice to come away with at least one TD down there, preferably two, but with the season we've had I'm not going to complain about a win.

[QUOTE=irish]I guess I am confused about scoring TDs is considered "style points". Moving the ball and TOP are great (and so was the W) but having 1st and goal on the 3 vs maybe the worst team in the NFL and not scoring both times is downright lousy.

Its effective vs the bad teams but not scoring against the good teams only ensures a L.[/QUOTE]

here here. the Skins' have it in their minds they are a better team than their record. and they are, and that mentality is what keeps the team from 'accepting' their record and giving up. not punching it in like that vs. such a bad team affects the team's confidence. Portis looked less happy on saturday 17 points ahead and having more yards than he did 3 points down vs. Philly with less yards.