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NC_Skins 07-27-2011 01:50 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=horse;814144]Can someone tell me why we're not all over kyle orton?[/quote]

Probably because we already went down that road once giving up a 2nd/4th rounder for a QB "who was proven" only to find out it was a huge mistake. Normally when you get fleeced, bamboozled like that, you generally don't do it again. It's called "learning". However, if you want to keep up the same practices of pissing away our future draft picks for the next sure thing to "win now", then I suggest we pull that trigger. Vinny Cerrato surely would have.


Now, I understand exactly why this franchise was wrecked for over a decade. Our owner is exactly like our fans.

JoeRedskin 07-27-2011 01:58 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=horse;814144]Can someone tell me why we're not all over kyle orton?[/quote]

B/c we have the next Johnny U ready to step up behind center. Soon enough everyone will be singing the praises of Johnny B, the red-headed wonder!!

Plus, we would have to give up a 3rd rounder to get Orton.

Longtimefan 07-27-2011 04:11 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=NC_Skins;814154]Probably because we already went down that road once giving up a 2nd/4th rounder for a QB "who was proven" only to find out it was a huge mistake. Normally when you get fleeced, bamboozled like that, you generally don't do it again. It's called "learning". However, if you want to keep up the same practices of pissing away our future draft picks for the next sure thing to "win now", then I suggest we pull that trigger. Vinny Cerrato surely would have.


Now, I understand exactly why this franchise was wrecked for over a decade. Our owner is exactly like our fans.[/quote]

BA has said he would make the same trade all over again....no regrets! True or false?

irish 07-27-2011 04:48 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
QB is only 1 of the Skins problems. This team has too many holes to be much of a contender.

NC_Skins 07-27-2011 04:50 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=Longtimefan;814408]BA has said he would make the same trade all over again....no regrets! True or false?[/quote]


BA is full of shit too. What's he going to say publicly?

skinster 07-27-2011 04:56 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=irish;814481]QB is only 1 of the Skins problems. This team has too many holes to be much of a contender.[/quote]

Even the packers had holes last year (OLB stands out IMO). You can have a couple of holes and still be a contender. Look at the colts, their team is junk without Manning. A good qb can take a team with a few holes far. If we get a WR, an interior lineman, a right tackle, get cullen jenkins, and resign buchanon we have enough pieces to be contenders if our qb can perform at a high enough level. Cullen, buchanon, the right tackle are all locks IMO. This is a completely hypothetical situational question. IF we fill enough holes, how far can Beck take us?

GMScud 07-27-2011 05:00 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
[quote=celts32;814042]Maybe he will take us all the way to Andrew Luck.[/quote]

LOL!

Honestly, I have very little faith in Beck. Shanahan also had 1st round grade on Jarvis Moss and used a 3rd round pick on Maurice Clarett. Just because he's high on him doesn't sell me in the least.

There's a reason John Beck hasn't taken a snap in a regular season game since 2007 and has been on 3 teams in 4 years. I get the feeling if it was going to happen for him it would have already.

I'm the same boat as SS- I think Rex has a better shot at leading this team to W's than Beck.

#56fanatic 07-27-2011 05:10 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
THe fact remains, if the offensive line is any good I think we have skill players around Beck to make a difference as far as offensive output. He is a smart kid, has the arm just not sure he has really ever gotten the chance to play. Parcells is a pretty good judge of talent, and he sent a 2nd round pick to Baltimore to get him to Miami. It all is on the offensive line, and Shanny's ability to bring in guys that can play his scheme and have some quality back up if someone goes down. I say 8-8 is pretty good given the transition, but that could go up or down either way by 2 games depending on the D. IF the D comes out and is solid, then we could be fighting for a wild card.

Mechanix544 07-27-2011 05:42 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
dude, if you think tis team is geting anywhere NEAR 10-6 with beck and clemmons as our qbs.............then "pass the dutchie for me left hand side"

SmootSmack 07-27-2011 05:44 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
We're getting to 10-6 with Rex

Mechanix544 07-27-2011 05:49 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
love the optimism. So, thats with rabach, hicks and sevish capers as 3 of our starting lineman, right?

Alvin Walton 07-27-2011 05:49 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
10 to 6 int's a game?

skinsfaninok 07-27-2011 05:55 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
I'd say Beck 8-8 at best

Rex maybe 8-8

Clemens 1-15

Tom Brady 12-4

Lotus 07-27-2011 08:06 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
I find it difficult to believe that Clemens will our only QB addition.

I suspect a trade for Orton: Haynesworth for Orton!

Or a Vince Young arrival in Ashburn.

Alvin Walton 07-27-2011 08:13 PM

Re: How far can Beck take us?
 
Haynsworth for a starting caliber QB.
:yeahright


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