Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

A part of me--- a very, very small part of me-- would like to the see the Eagles represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, provided the Redskins don't make it.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

I give him two years on that contract and then he will either restructure or be cut. In other words he will not live up the contract...........

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=saden1;828935]I am happy for him. He personifies redemption and I doubt he will disappoint.[/quote]


...he also "personifies a "DOG KILLER".:bs:

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Giantone;829027]...he also "personifies a "DOG KILLER".:bs:[/quote]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

Two yrs, ago, no one would have believed Vick would ever strut that kind of weight again. Good for him.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=SolidSnake84;829029]Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.[/quote]
You make some nice points SS . I hope he does alot of good with that $$$ , maybe help homeless/ rescue shelters ( Human and Animal ) I guess we will see what kind of man he is over the next few years .

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=12thMan;828928][url=http://www.nfl.com/]NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League[/url]

All I can say is wow![/quote]

me too, time will tell, but this seems crazy high for a guy that most likely won't play all 16 games.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;829029]Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.[/QUOTE]

I think it takes a very sick person to do the things he did. Product of environment and all. I don't think a person who has done that can inherently change. He changed because he got caught and im not saying he shouldn't be accepted for it but I don't think he should be crowned.

There is a difference between killing an animal and abusing it to death.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Mattyk;829054]Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.[/quote]

This.

In fact they could have franchised him next year again, and seen what develops. With his style, and their line, and our division, he easily could get a season or career ending injury, and then they have really put themselves in a hole, imo.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=budw38;829032]You make some nice points SS . I hope he does alot of good with that $$$ , maybe help homeless/ rescue shelters ( Human and Animal ) I guess we will see what kind of man he is over the next few years .[/quote]

I imagine most of the money will go to pay off his enormous debts.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=Mattyk;829054]Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.[/quote]


Funny. I said the same thing about Laron Laundry. :cheeky-sm

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[quote=NC_Skins;829061]Funny. I said the same thing about Laron Laundry. :cheeky-sm[/quote]

LL doesn't have the injury history Vick does, apples and oranges too as LL isn't going to get this kind of money.

But given the fact LL is still iffy health wise, I would wait. I would have waited til midseason at the earliest anyway.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

[QUOTE]MicheleSteele Michele Steele
by dkaplanSBJ
#Notmakingitrain: 40% of Mike Vick's massive contract goes to creditors & has to follow court-ordered budget until 2015 es.pn/fLwHcB
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Interesting article in the link, [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=munson/101202]Michael Vick's MVP-caliber season looks even better in light of off-field distractions he faces from his bankruptcy status, and a look at Anheuser-Busch's lawsuit against MLB - ESPN[/url]. As always, you might notice that the lawyers are the ones making a ton off of Vick.

Re: Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

I was in grad school at VT when Vick had his magical year & our Hokies lost to FSU in the nat'l title, so a part of me is always pulling for him. Now he's w/the iggles so I can only root for him so much.

He's been almost as injury prone his whole career as he has been exciting. I think he peaked last year, and he also did that w/virtually no expectations. This year it's all on him & his team to win it all.

In his second year as starter in college, he was a SI cover boy in preseason. He hurt his ankle & couldn't go full strength v. Miami, and that was the team's only loss. I would be shocked if he's not hurt at some point in the season & misses some games. It really is a question of when.