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[quote=SmootSmack;871740]RG3 does a great job of getting his receivers the ball so they can catch it and run. I have concerns about his size and tendency to run soon after his first option is out.[/quote]

Me too and that predisposition to run is what I mean by not a pro style QB.

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[quote=Landry44;871753]First of all, everything that I said turned about to be true. How can you make me look like a buffoon when you turn out to be wrong?[/quote]

What exactly was I wrong about? I wasn't in love with RGIII before and I'm still not. The moment anyone criticizes him you catch feelings, then proceed to declare that that person doesn't watch any college football. Pretty weak man. And I would be careful about saying everything you declared has come true. Maybe wait until he's successful in the NFL before dubbing yourself a prophet.

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Bottom Line Landry44, you have a tendency to post on here (particularly those who don't agree with you) as if you're god's gift to this forum. And anyone ekse's opinion is beneath you, with your constant "it's obvious you don't watch college football" If you really feel you're smarter than all of us that's fine but then why do you stay? If not, then you gotta change your tone

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[quote=GMScud;871750]Agree. He's MUCH smaller than Cam Newton and is too quick to pull it down and run a lot of times. He pulls that stuff in the NFL, and he won't stay healthy long.[/quote]

I can see him turning into Vick 2.0. Then who's in to save us? Why it's Sexy Rexy as he gets signed to another 1 year contact to play backup!

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[quote=SmootSmack;871740]RG3 does a great job of getting his receivers the ball so they can catch it and run. I have concerns about his size and tendency to run soon after his first option is out.[/quote]

I don't have any concerns with RGIII, but rather my concerns are with this staffs ability to teach their scheme and/or adapt to his college concepts.
That's why I would prefer a pro-style QB but RGIII would be the top QB on my board scheme not withstanding.

I've watched a bunch of Baylor games and imo he doesn't locks and bail after his 1st progression any more then any other college QB.
Imo you cannot be tops in passing efficiency by locking onto and bailing after your 1st progression.
But, that's a coachable anyhow.
I like RGIII because of his skillset.


I hope people aren't expecting Can Newton though.

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[quote=GMScud;871757]What exactly was I wrong about? I wasn't in love with RGIII before and I'm still not. The moment anyone criticizes him you catch feelings, then proceed to declare that that person doesn't watch any college football. Pretty weak man. And I would be careful about saying everything you declared has come true. Maybe wait until he's successful in the NFL before dubbing yourself a prophet.[/quote] You was wrong about RG3 and I was right. For the record, I don't object to any criticism as long as it's valid. To say that RG3 isn't a accurate passer if false. Anyone who watches college football know what I'm saying is the truth. Do you agree or disagree? Answer that question before you just to another irrelevant subject.

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[quote=Landry44;871772]You exactly was wrong about RG3 and I was right. For the record, I don't object to any criticism as long as it's valid. To say that RG3 isn't a accurate passer if false. Anyone who watches college football know what I'm saying is the truth. Do you agree or disagree? Answer that question before you just to another irrelevant subject.[/quote]

Then answer his question asking "What exactly was I wrong about" first. Talk about irrelevancy. "You was wrong about RG3 and I was right" is a great facts based rebuttal to his question. And then you tell him he's irrelevant? I love hypocrites.... PS, your grammar is atrocious.

And since you don't object to any criticism as long as it's valid, and my points are all valid, there is no objection, correct? Do you agree or disagree? Answer that question before you just to another irrelevant subject.

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[quote=irish;871643]RGIII is another version of Michael Vick (a runner who is an ok passer) and that doesnt win Super Bowls. Sure RGIII threw for a bunch of yards but in college WRs are open by yards and in the pros its inches so college numbers are often misleading. I'm just not sure about RGIII's accuracy.[/quote]Plenty of different types of QB have won superbowls, to include 'athletic' or 'scrambling' QBs; just like many different types of QBs failed to win superbowls to include pocket passers.

Second, Mike Vick has [I]always[/I] been a gifted passer, his decision making and knowledge of the passing game was horrendous.
He's just now become a better decision maker.

When you refer to RGIII as a version of Vick, you're paying RGIII a huge compliment. (remember: Vick was the unquestioned No.1 pick in his draft class)

I agree college numbers are misleading, and all college QBs will have to make the adjustment passing into smaller windows in the NFL.

What about RGIII's accuracy aren't you sure about?

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[quote=30gut;871779]Plenty of different types of QB have won superbowls, to include 'athletic' or 'scrambling' QBs; just like many different types of QBs failed to win superbowls to include pocket passers.

Second, Mike Vick has [I]always[/I] been a gifted passer, his decision making and knowledge of the passing game was horrendous.
He's just now become a better decision maker.

[B]When you refer to RGIII as a version of Vick, you're paying RGIII a huge compliment. [/B](remember: Vick was the unquestioned No.1 pick in his draft class)

I agree college numbers are misleading, and all college QBs will have to make the adjustment passing into smaller windows in the NFL.

What about RGIII's accuracy aren't you sure about?[/quote]

I agree Vick is a gifted athlete, but what good does his talent do if he is on the bench every other game for half the season for breaking something from all the vicious hits he takes?

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[quote=SkinzWin;871781]I agree Vick is a gifted athlete, but what good does his talent do if he is on the bench every other game for half the season for breaking something from all the vicious hits he takes?[/quote]Do you always ask loaded, rhetorical questions?

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Can we ban anyone that doesn't support RG3?

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Does anyone think RGIII will be available at pick #6 or #7?

[QUOTE=30gut;871788]Does anyone think RGIII will be available at pick #6 or #7?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately I don't. People are gonna be trading away the whole farm to move up for that guy, us included possibly.

Re: RGIII declares for NFL draft
 

[quote=30gut;871779]Plenty of different types of QB have won superbowls, to include 'athletic' or 'scrambling' QBs; just like many different types of QBs failed to win superbowls to include pocket passers.

Second, Mike Vick has [I]always[/I] been a gifted passer, his decision making and knowledge of the passing game was horrendous.
He's just now become a better decision maker.

When you refer to RGIII as a version of Vick, you're paying RGIII a huge compliment. (remember: Vick was the unquestioned No.1 pick in his draft class)

I agree college numbers are misleading, and all college QBs will have to make the adjustment passing into smaller windows in the NFL.

What about RGIII's accuracy aren't you sure about?[/quote]

Honest question without an edge: Do you think that RGIII has a windup in his mechanics which may compromise his effectiveness in the NFL?

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[quote=SkinzWin;871775]Then answer his question asking "What exactly was I wrong about" first. Talk about irrelevancy. "You was wrong about RG3 and I was right" is a great facts based rebuttal to his question. And then you tell him he's irrelevant? I love hypocrites.... PS, your grammar is atrocious.

And since you don't object to any criticism as long as it's valid, and my points are all valid, there is no objection, correct? Do you agree or disagree? Answer that question before you just to another irrelevant subject.[/quote] A statement was made about RG3's accuracy. No matter if you're judging a guy based on completion percentage or ball placement he's still an extremely accurate passer. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. That is what the whole debated was about. He made the debate about me defending RG3 while ignoring my point. What's atrocious is your football IQ. Why don't you take GM's c0ck out of your mouth and let him speak for himself.