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[quote=12thMan;927387]I would hate to see Cooley leave under any circumstances. Cooley's only 30 years old. He's no spring chicken, but he still has a lot left in the tank. [B]Fred Davis tweaks an ankle and suddenly you're regretting unloading Cooley.[/B] I wouldn't do it.[/quote]Well, sure, unless Niles Paul looks like a 24 year old vertical receiving tight end coming into his own.

What you've reasoned is exactly why I wouldn't cut Cooley simply for the salary relief. He still has value.

But if you can get something in return for him, you have to take it.

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Also, Jammal Brown is a two-time Pro Bowler and we gave up a third round pick. We took a risk and things haven't worked. Probably best that we don't panic and unload too much right now and just address that position in next year's draft.

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[quote=Chico23231;927386]what an appropriate acronym to describe our right tackle issue (JB stinks) as well as the tackle market in the offseason (stunk)

[B]It is a lil bothersome that Shanny is saying our young guys are not ready for the to step up and be full time starters[/B].[/quote]

When did he say this?

Also, I would have loved to have gotten Winston but it didn't seem like he was willing to negotiate to be here.

And I was just throwing Khalif Barnes' name out there, not based on any inside info

And I'm totally fine with moving forward without Cooley.

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[quote=12thMan;927390]Also, Jammal Brown is a two-time Pro Bowler and we gave up a third round pick. We took a risk and things haven't worked. Probably best that we don't panic and unload too much right now and just address that position in next year's draft.[/quote]I agree. But it's good business to keep the options open. This is probably the very last opportunity to get anything for Cooley. After 2012, he's likely going to be on a series of "TE for hire" one year contracts, be they here or elsewhere. Which means no matter what we decide to do with him this month, we can have him back if we want him next year.

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The FO already screwed the pooch when it blew it's FA wad (knowingly) on WR, badly neglecting the tackle position. I would bet my income this year Winston would have helped this team more than Garcon, Morgan. Particularly when you consider there were better WRs than Garcon, Morgan on the market for less money.

A knee-jerk reaction now such as trading away Cooley for another stop-gap at RT would be like adding insult to injury to Redskins nation...first neglect the oline and put RGIII's development in jeopardy then trade away a fan favorite who still fills a need.

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[quote=30gut;927380]Interesting.......
2.) FA OL/RBs?

3.) [B]Joe Barksdale OL[/B]/ Mike Mitchell S

I would feel that the FO did not properly prioritize addressing the RT with a solid starter earlier during the offseason.
And with Jammal Brown's injury situation that they are now backed into a corner and are forced to trade for a marginal player/stop gap player at RT that was available via FA this offseason without having to trade anything.[/quote]

I would love to have Barksdale but reports that I have read say that the Raidahs are hoping that he will replace Barnes anyway. Thus it is Barnes who is more likely on the trading block.

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[quote=GTripp0012;927392]I agree. But it's good business to keep the options open. This is probably the very last opportunity to get anything for Cooley. After 2012, he's likely going to be on a series of "TE for hire" one year contracts, be they here or elsewhere. Which means no matter what we decide to do with him this month, we can have him back if we want him next year.[/quote]

This is true. We're riding a razor's edge to get anything for Cooley now, much less in the future.

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[quote=The Goat;927393]The FO already screwed the pooch when it blew it's FA wad (knowingly) on WR, badly neglecting the tackle position. [B]I would bet my income this year Winston would have helped this team more than Garcon, Morgan. Particularly when you consider there were better WRs than Garcon, Morgan on the market for less money.
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A knee-jerk reaction now such as trading away Cooley for another stop-gap at RT would be like adding insult to injury to Redskins nation...first neglect the oline and put RGIII's development in jeopardy then trade away a fan favorite who still fills a need.[/quote]

I agree, we definitely overpaid for Garcon, and Morgan I didn't want because he was coming off a broken ankle. That right there is a signing that we could have avoided and of been able to offer more money to winston. And I just find it surprising that he-Winston- didn't want to come here. There has to be more to the story like he knew we didn't have the money, or he didn't like Kyle Shanahan or something.

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I believe the FO did their due diligence and considered all contingencies when they made WR a priority over RT. You know, you hope for the best. You hope everybody shows up healthy and they're ready to rock and roll.

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It would be nice if Bruce Allen was talking to the Raiders about trading for tackle Bruce Campbell. The Redskins are going to need young help at right tackle. Bruce Campbell is very athletic and a decent blocker that can also play in the interior of the line.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;927400]It would be nice if Bruce Allen was talking to the Raiders about trading for tackle Bruce Campbell. The Redskins are going to need young help at right tackle. Bruce Campbell is very athletic and a decent blocker that can also play in the interior of the line.[/quote]

they already traded him. Bruce was a project and never even started a game for the Raiders

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I was high on Campbell out of college but he doesn't seem to be playing up to his expectations. Still, I'd take a shot on him, maybe a change in environment will get him right.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;927400]It would be nice if Bruce Allen was talking to the Raiders about trading for tackle Bruce Campbell. The Redskins are going to need young help at right tackle. Bruce Campbell is very athletic and a decent blocker that can also play in the interior of the line.[/quote]

The Raiders already traded Campbell to the Panthers.

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;927396]I agree, we definitely overpaid for Garcon, and Morgan I didn't want because he was coming off a broken ankle. That right there is a signing that we could have avoided and of been able to offer more money to winston. And I just find it surprising that he-Winston- didn't want to come here. [B]There has to be more to the story like he knew we didn't have the money, or he didn't like Kyle Shanahan or something.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I think you're probably right there's more to the story. I think Smoot mentioned Winston would not negotiate w/ us. Kinda strange when we just brought in a talent like RGIII.

That's one thing about Garcon that irked me...in interviews when asked about whether RGIII was part of his desire for signing here Garcon said it wasn't, in fact he's kind of diffident toward the excitement around our franchise QB. I hope he does well since he's on the roster, in fact I hope he breaks 1000 yards and has 8+ TDs because otherwise his signing isn't justified.

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Lets trade them Kyle Shanahan for an old Al Davis wind suit. Straight up Baby!! But must be pre and post game worn. Everybodys a winner.