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[quote=DynamiteRave;985230]Let's hope he's not another Cam. We see how far his ego got him.[/quote]

He's more of a Peyton Manning then anything else. I mean lets look at the whole picture. He's incredibly smart. Loves to star in commercials. Unquestioned leader of the team. Studies like theres no tommorrow. The list goes on.

We're talking about a guy who got elected captain of a playoff team in his rookie year on a team with numerous veterans. Cam Newton on the other hand has been considered a terrible leader by teammates. He's also not nearly as articulate as Griffin though to be fair 99% of the population isn't.

Everyone said lebron James was a punk and arrogant too.. well.he's the best player in the NBA and is on top of the world ATM. Like matty said all stars are arrogant at times.

re: As long as RGIII is 100% for 2013 training camp...
 

[quote=Mattyk;985228]I think he's just bummed about losing more than anything.

He's flashed hints of ego all season. I'm kinda amazed people are only picking up on it now. As I said earlier not that it's a bad thing, most superstar athletes are like that and he balances it out well enough.[/quote]

Oh, trust me, I've noticed the exaggerated "swagger" all year... and it always borderline-rubbed me the wrong way...

But tonight he showed to the next level.

WITH ALL OF THIS SAID... Listen,

* He's 22 years old and LOVED and ADORED by EVERYONE
* He was a All-American hurdler as a freshman in college
* After being recruited by the big schools as a WR... He told everyone that he was going to play QB in the NFL and proved himself times 100 on that one
* Turned around a whole program at Baylor, took them to their first Bowl game in forever
* Won the Heisman
* A team traded 3 1st-Round picks for him
* etc, etc, etc... the dude has only experienced that HIS goals get achieved and what he touches turns to gold
* Did I mention he's only 22?

...meaning... OF COURSE he's going to have an ego, be narcissistic, etc... I'm just saying that the narcissistic thing that come from all of that is a flaw to me...

[I][U]But... it's only 2% of the pie... the other 98% of my opinion on the guy is that he's manna from heaven... ha.[/U][/I]

Also... his ego couldn't even fit in a ball room with Cam Newton's... it's no where near that level... I'm just saying that when things aren't going well, this will show again.

re: As long as RGIII is 100% for 2013 training camp...
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;985241]Everyone said lebron James was a punk and arrogant too.. well.he's the best player in the NBA and is on top of the world ATM. Like matty said all stars are arrogant at times.[/quote]

Footballs different but I will say you can be a bit of prick at QB and still have your teammates love you.
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So long as you don't get into Jay Cutler/Jeff George territory you're okay. And to be fair I haven't seen or heard of RG3 yelling at teammates though I think he told Trent Williams to shut up in a huddle during the offseason when Trent was joking around.

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Aaron Rogers has a huge ego, he does a championship belt celebration after every touchdown.

Eli Manning called himself elite before he won another superbowl.

Tom Brady talks trash during games and laughed when someone said they wouldn't score 17 points before the superbowl against the Giants. I forgot the exact number of points and who said it.

Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Joe Namath... quarterbacks are arrogant. Rather have a quarterback that is arrogant than someone like Mark Sanchez.

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Hah I said this during the game thread

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[quote=donofriose;985246]Aaron Rogers has a huge ego, he does a championship belt celebration after every touchdown.

Eli Manning called himself elite before he won another superbowl.

Tom Brady talks trash during games and laughed when someone said they wouldn't score 17 points before the superbowl against the Giants. I forgot the exact number of points and who said it.

Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Joe Namath... quarterbacks are arrogant. Rather have a quarterback that is arrogant than someone like Mark Sanchez.[/quote]

All QBs that are arrogant have a reason to be. Sanchez is surrounded by a terrible coach and a terrible team.

Any attempt of Sanchez trying to be arrogant would be like the wimpiest kid on the playground declaring himself King of the monkey bars.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;985254]All QBs that are arrogant have a reason to be. Sanchez is surrounded by a terrible coach and a terrible team.

Any attempt of Sanchez trying to be arrogant would be like the wimpiest kid on the playground declaring himself King of the monkey bars.[/quote]

What I am saying is that all quarterbacks are arrogant, at least the good ones. You watch Sanchez play and speak he is not arrogant at all, in fact you can tell he lacks confidence.

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[quote=donofriose;985256]What I am saying is that all quarterbacks are arrogant, at least the good ones. You watch Sanchez play and speak he is not arrogant at all, in fact you can tell he lacks confidence.[/quote]

I wouldn't be confident playing with the Jets either.

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There's a difference between having an ego, which plenty of athletes do, and being a selfish unlikable brat like Cam Newton.

There's no real comparison there between RG3 and Cam. None.

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[quote=Mattyk;985259]There's a difference between having an ego, which plenty of athletes do, and being a selfish unlikable brat like Cam Newton.

There's no real comparison there between RG3 and Cam. None.[/quote]

Exactly. Even Cutler to an extent, but especially Cam. It is when you alienate your teammates that it becomes a problem.

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[quote=Mattyk;985259]There's a difference between having an ego, which plenty of athletes do, and being a selfish unlikable brat like Cam Newton.

There's no real comparison there between RG3 and Cam. None.[/quote]

We agree 1000% there... definitely.

Again, as I stated earlier, 98% of the time, the narcissism is good/great... but 2% of the time it can be a negative..

* When we are losing/not playing well
* When he is hurt and refuses to let anyone else play

I'm just saying that I feel like it is definitely something to have in the back of the mind and I think it will show negatively in the future at some point.

The thing that I heard that scared me was the attitude that he tells the coach what's going to happen (this thinking will only get worse as he becomes more of a veteran).

... it kinda ties into the fact that he calls his offensive coordinator "Kyle." I just haven't liked that... calling a coach by their first name... but that's just a me thing I guess since it's 2013.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;985130]What happened today doesnt matter anymore, its history.
We had a farging great year.
Remember the Vikings game? Holy crap!
7 wins in a row? WTF?
Sweeping Dallas, knocking out the Giants....
Oh and hey....we won the division.
We made the playoffs!
And I'm telling anyone with a pulse that RGIII will win three super bowls for us.
I'm calling four appearances and three wins.
Get ready for the long haul cause we're riding down the rails on the crazy train.
Congrats on a great season to our 2013 Washington Redskins!!!

(Did I mention we swept Dallas?)[/quote]

Alvin Walton with my favorite post of the year (aka the week) so far. This sums up how I feel about this team right now. Going deep into the playoffs would've been nice, but my season expectations were 8-8, with the offense carrying us and the defense letting us down. So I'm definitely happy with where we are and what we accomplished this season. I don't think I'll be able to say I saw my favorite team go from 3-6 to 10-6 in the span of a couple months, probably again in my lifetime. Tonight was disappointing, and my everlasting hate for Seattle continues, but it can't damper the fact that even being in this moment was more than I expected. I don't expect big changes this offseason, besides some secondary help, and maybe a tweak here and there, but I do hope all that we've accomplished this year sets us up for bigger things next year.

I have one request for this off-season, can we have a mod whose only job is to fix thread titles? The OC in me is going a bit I insane about this title. :banghead:

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[QUOTE=redskins5044;985155]We could have beat the Rams, Bengals, Steelers, Giants, panthers and Falcons too but we didn't.[/QUOTE]

Well not the Steelers so much. Lol.