Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

I like when my team wins. And I like when the players put in are the ones that give us the greatest chance of doing such. Even if they aren't a long term solution. I don't ever want to tank to get a better pick. Even if we are 2-13. I still want the win on Sunday. Right now colt 45 seems to give us the best chance. I am a fan of players such as griff, but I'm a much larger fan of the redskins as a team than any individual player.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

I realize I'm the only person maybe, in the world, to say this... I think Cousins should be going in at this point.

It makes no sense, to me, to put McCoy in there now. I wanted him to stay in after the Dallas game, and I honestly believe we'd be 6-5 right now if he'd played the last 3 weeks...

But, again, here is where I'm on Crazy Island by myself...

I think that Cousins will be the one to be a [I]Great[/I] quarterback for someone... and I hope it's us. Yes, he threw interceptions... and yes, once he did, he looked like a guy who freaked out that he made a mistake and got frantic and made other mistakes... but THAT.. to ME... looks like what young, talented quarterback looks like.

Remember that Cousins has started a total of 9 games in the NFL! I realize that a 3 INT game and a 4 INT game stand out... but in his 4 other games this season... 7 TD's to 2 INT's. Eli Manning just threw 5 in a game 2 weeks ago...

Against 2 of the absolute best defenses in the NFL that he had to face back-to-back weeks (Seattle & Arizona), he averaged more than 300 yards passing, 4 TD's to the 3 picks against 'zona.

He's the one that needs to finish being evaluated and not written off. Check these numbers of great QB's early in their career:

Elway - 25 TDs - 29 INTs in first 2 seasons
P. Manning - 100... yes 100 INTs in his first 5 seasons (that's 20 per season)
Farve - 19 TDs - 24 INTs in his SECOND FULL season
E. Manning - 17, 18, and 20 INTs first 3 full seasons (and just last year tossed 18 TDs to 27 INTs!)

My point is... If you have watched our games this year you had to see that Cousins fit balls into teeny tiny windows that McCoy and Griffin NEVER would. He MOVED this offense... period. The WRs got the ball! ... The tight ends got the ball...

And... check this out...
He threw 10 TDs in 5 games, which out him on pace for a 30+ TD season. Remember the last 'Skins QB to do that? Me either. It was done ONCE (31)...by Sonny Jorgensen.. in 1967.

To me, honestly... he looked exactly like a guy who knew this was his one shot in life to be an NFL starting QB (here or elsewhere) and once he made a mistake, he would get frantic to make up for it, and make another... People forget how much internal pressure must have been on this guy every week. He KNEW this was his one shot because he wasn't a first rounder. These other elite QBs struggled in their first 9 starts... but could relax, play through the dumb throws... but their talent was evident... to me... Cousins arm-talent is evident.

I truly think he could be a Farve or Eli Manning-type guy, who when he's on... with the weapons we have on offense.. could possibly get hot every year or so and win us a big one... while, in other years, make you want to throw a brick through your TV.

But either way, right now... HE'S the one that needs another shot... McCoy is not the future and we have to figure out who is...

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=CASKINS;1096103]Goes to Texans wins franchises first super bowl...

again Ask brad johnson about that shit.[/quote]

Brad Johnson was playing good (RG3 isnt) so Tampa knew it was getting a solid pro QB. For some reason the owner decided BJ had to go because Jeff George was the answer which isnt surprising because this organization always seems to want whoever they dont have. At the time most people knew bringing in JG for BJ was a mistake and that was in fact true.

Houston might win a Super Bowl with RG if Houston is willing to put in 3-5 years trying to develop him.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=CASKINS;1096103]Goes to Texans wins franchises first super bowl...

again Ask brad johnson about that shit.[/quote]

Traded to St. Louis for a 4th round pick. Fisher will call Snyder everyday when they win the super bowl with the QB the skins traded them for.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

Don't like it one bit, kids gotta play. I guess gruden wants to get rg3 pissed and maybe motivated

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=Hail to the Redskins;1096161]I realize I'm the only person maybe, in the world, to say this... I think Cousins should be going in at this point.

It makes no sense, to me, to put McCoy in there now. I wanted him to stay in after the Dallas game, and I honestly believe we'd be 6-5 right now if he'd played the last 3 weeks...

But, again, here is where I'm on Crazy Island by myself...

I think that Cousins will be the one to be a [I]Great[/I] quarterback for someone... and I hope it's us. Yes, he threw interceptions... and yes, once he did, he looked like a guy who freaked out that he made a mistake and got frantic and made other mistakes... but THAT.. to ME... looks like what young, talented quarterback looks like.

Remember that Cousins has started a total of 9 games in the NFL! I realize that a 3 INT game and a 4 INT game stand out... but in his 4 other games this season... 7 TD's to 2 INT's. Eli Manning just threw 5 in a game 2 weeks ago...

Against 2 of the absolute best defenses in the NFL that he had to face back-to-back weeks (Seattle & Arizona), he averaged more than 300 yards passing, 4 TD's to the 3 picks against 'zona.

He's the one that needs to finish being evaluated and not written off. Check these numbers of great QB's early in their career:

Elway - 25 TDs - 29 INTs in first 2 seasons
P. Manning - 100... yes 100 INTs in his first 5 seasons (that's 20 per season)
Farve - 19 TDs - 24 INTs in his SECOND FULL season
E. Manning - 17, 18, and 20 INTs first 3 full seasons (and just last year tossed 18 TDs to 27 INTs!)

My point is... If you have watched our games this year you had to see that Cousins fit balls into teeny tiny windows that McCoy and Griffin NEVER would. He MOVED this offense... period. The WRs got the ball! ... The tight ends got the ball...

And... check this out...
He threw 10 TDs in 5 games, which out him on pace for a 30+ TD season. Remember the last 'Skins QB to do that? Me either. It was done ONCE (31)...by Sonny Jorgensen.. in 1967.

To me, honestly... he looked exactly like a guy who knew this was his one shot in life to be an NFL starting QB (here or elsewhere) and once he made a mistake, he would get frantic to make up for it, and make another... People forget how much internal pressure must have been on this guy every week. He KNEW this was his one shot because he wasn't a first rounder. These other elite QBs struggled in their first 9 starts... but could relax, play through the dumb throws... but their talent was evident... to me... Cousins arm-talent is evident.

I truly think he could be a Farve or Eli Manning-type guy, who when he's on... with the weapons we have on offense.. could possibly get hot every year or so and win us a big one... while, in other years, make you want to throw a brick through your TV.

But either way, right now... HE'S the one that needs another shot... McCoy is not the future and we have to figure out who is...[/quote]

I wonder if they are letting KC learn more so they can go into training camp next year with KC ready to go as the starter.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=Chico23231;1096169]Don't like it one bit, kids gotta play. [B]I guess gruden wants to get rg3 pissed and maybe motivated[/B][/quote]

I think that is a good guess. Or maybe Gruden doesn't want him to hurt his confidence. Or maybe both.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[QUOTE=Hail to the Redskins;1096161]I realize I'm the only person maybe, in the world, to say this... I think Cousins should be going in at this point.



It makes no sense, to me, to put McCoy in there now. I wanted him to stay in after the Dallas game, and I honestly believe we'd be 6-5 right now if he'd played the last 3 weeks...



But, again, here is where I'm on Crazy Island by myself...



I think that Cousins will be the one to be a [I]Great[/I] quarterback for someone... and I hope it's us. Yes, he threw interceptions... and yes, once he did, he looked like a guy who freaked out that he made a mistake and got frantic and made other mistakes... but THAT.. to ME... looks like what young, talented quarterback looks like.



Remember that Cousins has started a total of 9 games in the NFL! I realize that a 3 INT game and a 4 INT game stand out... but in his 4 other games this season... 7 TD's to 2 INT's. Eli Manning just threw 5 in a game 2 weeks ago...



Against 2 of the absolute best defenses in the NFL that he had to face back-to-back weeks (Seattle & Arizona), he averaged more than 300 yards passing, 4 TD's to the 3 picks against 'zona.



He's the one that needs to finish being evaluated and not written off. Check these numbers of great QB's early in their career:



Elway - 25 TDs - 29 INTs in first 2 seasons

P. Manning - 100... yes 100 INTs in his first 5 seasons (that's 20 per season)

Farve - 19 TDs - 24 INTs in his SECOND FULL season

E. Manning - 17, 18, and 20 INTs first 3 full seasons (and just last year tossed 18 TDs to 27 INTs!)



My point is... If you have watched our games this year you had to see that Cousins fit balls into teeny tiny windows that McCoy and Griffin NEVER would. He MOVED this offense... period. The WRs got the ball! ... The tight ends got the ball...



And... check this out...

He threw 10 TDs in 5 games, which out him on pace for a 30+ TD season. Remember the last 'Skins QB to do that? Me either. It was done ONCE (31)...by Sonny Jorgensen.. in 1967.



To me, honestly... he looked exactly like a guy who knew this was his one shot in life to be an NFL starting QB (here or elsewhere) and once he made a mistake, he would get frantic to make up for it, and make another... People forget how much internal pressure must have been on this guy every week. He KNEW this was his one shot because he wasn't a first rounder. These other elite QBs struggled in their first 9 starts... but could relax, play through the dumb throws... but their talent was evident... to me... Cousins arm-talent is evident.



I truly think he could be a Farve or Eli Manning-type guy, who when he's on... with the weapons we have on offense.. could possibly get hot every year or so and win us a big one... while, in other years, make you want to throw a brick through your TV.



But either way, right now... HE'S the one that needs another shot... McCoy is not the future and we have to figure out who is...[/QUOTE]


Agree 100%


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Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

Cool...I was really hoping we'd be [URL="http://articles.dailypress.com/2002-11-19/sports/0211190127_1_switch-qbs-spurrier-s-world-offensive-linemen"]here[/URL] again

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=donofriose;1096166]Traded to St. Louis for a 4th round pick. Fisher will call Snyder everyday when they win the super bowl with the QB the skins traded them for.[/quote]

You are an evil-minded person and you will probably languish in Hell for even thinking that. On the other hand, that sounds about right for the living Hell that is being a Redskins fan.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=Chico23231;1096169]Don't like it one bit, kids gotta play. I guess gruden wants to get rg3 pissed and maybe motivated[/quote]

If this is what has to be done to get RG motivated then he's not worth the effort.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=Chico23231;1096169]Don't like it one bit, kids gotta play. I guess gruden wants to get rg3 pissed and maybe motivated[/quote]

I was under the impression that Gruden didn't feel Robert was ready to play when he came back and then all of a sudden poof Robert was playing. Then Gruden sticks with him while he struggles to play at a basic level. My guess is that Gruden knows what he has at this juncture with all three QBs and is done evaluating what Robert can bring to the table and is ready to start evaluating Colt. If Gruden's system allows for greater continuity within the offense with someone else under center I am all for it.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1096160]I like when my team wins. And I like when the players put in are the ones that give us the greatest chance of doing such. Even if they aren't a long term solution. I don't ever want to tank to get a better pick. Even if we are 2-13. I still want the win on Sunday. Right now colt 45 seems to give us the best chance. I am a fan of players such as griff, but I'm a much larger fan of the redskins as a team than any individual player.[/quote]

Well said. You speak for me, as well, on this point.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1096175]You are an evil-minded person and you will probably languish in Hell for even thinking that. On the other hand, that sounds about right for the living Hell that is being a Redskins fan.[/quote]

Hell might be a nice respite for a Skins fan.

Re: McCoy to Start Against Indy
 

[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1096177]I was under the impression that Gruden didn't feel Robert was ready to play when he came back and then all of a sudden poof Robert was playing. Then Gruden sticks with him while he struggles to play at a basic level. My guess is that Gruden knows what he has at this juncture with all three QBs and is done evaluating what Robert can bring to the table and is ready to start evaluating Colt. If Gruden's system allows for greater continuity within the offense with someone else under center I am all for it.[/quote]

Too early to pull him IMO. Also think possibly gruden is trying to shield him from a utter embarrassment of luck vs rg3 this weekend.

Rg3 is bottomed out, gonna get interesting.

One thing is gruden must be popular in the lockerroom because he is not afraid to put the team ahead of the player. He earning some respect in the lockerroom. Now he just needs to cut the dry snitching in the offseason.