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Just draft any players declaring eligibility on the O Line from Stanford with late picks. Those players are big, ass, bullies. I've watched enough Cardinal games this year to see that they could succeed at the next level. They just bully people over, literally.

All this of course, in addition to getting a RT in the first or second round, please. Fix the RT position. I just don't have a ton of hope for Moses, sadly.

Re: Fix the Line Thread
 

[quote=DynamiteRave;1100030]We're gonna get killed.

The way I feel is that the Redskins have allowed 53 sacks so far this season. A ridiculous number. No one has really earned a starting spot, save T. Williams but he's been half-assing it because of injury (not his fault, really).

The Skins really need to clean house, especially with Chester and Polumbus. Luvao and Lich I feel are bubble players who'll probably be back next year because we can't ACTUALLY clean house on the starting line completely... Continue to develop Long, Moses and Compton. None of whom should be starting next season unless they make some enormous strides during off-season and pre-season next year. But... I can understand if they do because we can't continue to hold everyone back.

I meant Moses or Compton. They both seem merely average so far, so I hope they have a upside and can be developed.

Long I'm still iffy about because if he can't beat out Chester for starting these last couple of games, that feels somewhat like a red flag because Chester flat out sucks.[/quote]

Pretty much sums it up.

I might take the best offensive tackle with our first round pick and let that person battle with Trent for LT, loser moves to RT. The Patriots have taken this same approach and it works.

Re: Fix the Line Thread
 

LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?

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[quote=Rotten1980;1100188]I might take the best offensive tackle with our first round pick and let that person battle with Trent for LT, loser moves to RT. The Patriots have taken this same approach and it works.[/quote]

That's retarded. You don't pay at RT top money so why in the fuck would you ever move TW (who's being paid a king's fortune) to the RT? Also, our guards are bigger issues than RT so drafting a RT with the top pick would be wasted.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1100193]That's retarded. You don't pay at RT top money so why in the fuck would you ever move TW (who's being paid a king's fortune) to the RT? Also, our guards are bigger issues than RT so drafting a RT with the top pick would be wasted.[/quote]

Chill out big girl. We need a solid RT, it's been a turnstyle for too long. Williams has really struggled this year, maybe you give him benefit of the doubt with injury but he looks fat and slow too. Need to push him.

Patriots and Ravens actually have handled tackle position this way, but go on supporting the Redskins way chica, it's worked so well lmao.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1100192]LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

Could Luvall move to the right side?[/quote]

Wheres my shiny new first rounder?

Re: Fix the Line Thread
 

[quote=Rotten1980;1100194]Chill out big girl. We need a solid RT, it's been a turnstyle for too long. Williams has really struggled this year, maybe you give him benefit of the doubt with injury but he looks fat and slow too. Need to push him.

Patriots and Ravens actually have handled tackle position this way, but go on supporting the Redskins way chica, it's worked so well lmao.[/quote]

..and do tell, how much are the Patriots paying said RT?


You don't have to be a douche bag. Thanks.

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The Patriots deal away Logan Mankins and now they are sitting 11-3.
Tom Brady checks Twitter between the snap and his throws.
They draft tackles with #1s.
We should just beg them for scouting lessons.

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Patriots cap figure for their LT is $2.7M while ours is......... $10.9M against the cap.


Patriots cap figure for their RT(Vollmer) is $4.1M while ours (Polumbus) is $2.6M.



We are spending $13.5M against the cap in two tackles while the Patriots are spending $6.8M.


Throwing more money into the tackle positions isn't the answer. Drafting better is.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1100217]Patriots cap figure for their LT is $2.7M while ours is......... $10.9M against the cap.


Patriots cap figure for their RT(Vollmer) is $4.1M while ours (Polumbus) is $2.6M.



We are spending $13.5M against the cap in two tackles while the Patriots are spending $6.8M.


Throwing more money into the tackle positions isn't the answer. Drafting better is.[/quote]

Solder and Williams are still on their rookie contracts. Solder signed his under the new CBA, so that's why he's cheaper. Just pointing this out...

Anyway, I think between Compton and Moses the right tackle position is fine. Maybe draft a tackle in the mid-to-late rounds for depth and more competition, but right guard, safety, and the defensive line are bigger areas of need, IMO.

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Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.

Re: Fix the Line Thread
 

[quote=NC_Skins;1100217]Patriots cap figure for their LT is $2.7M while ours is......... $10.9M against the cap.


Patriots cap figure for their RT(Vollmer) is $4.1M while ours (Polumbus) is $2.6M.



We are spending $13.5M against the cap in two tackles while the Patriots are spending $6.8M.


Throwing more money into the tackle positions isn't the answer. Drafting better is.[/quote]

Williams isn't playing anywhere near his contract/cap price, and won't command same at time of his next deal. But you're right, we're overpaying badly right now at both tackle positions. What you highlight shows why the Patriots are winners.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1100245]Moses?
WTF?
The guy has shown zero promise.
I would pencil him in as a backup indefinitely.[/quote]

Yeah he couldn't beat out Polumbus or Compton. Too early to give up on him but no way is he penciled in as the starting rt.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1100192]LT Williams
LG Iupati
C Licht
RG Luvall
RT Moses

[B]Could Luvall move to the right side?[/B][/quote]

I'd prefer that he move back to Cleveland. He was owned by a slow fat guy in the Giants game.

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[quote=Rotten1980;1100250]Williams isn't playing anywhere near his contract/cap price, and won't command same at time of his next deal. But you're right, we're overpaying badly right now at both tackle positions. What you highlight shows why the Patriots are winners.[/quote]

Williams is a fine LT who is playing hurt right now. He would make a ton of money as a FA. He is not overpaid. You're not going to solve our OL problems by dumping one of our best players.