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skinsfan69 09-27-2016 09:49 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
Plus...

Crowder..dude is a player. Great draft pick

Cravens...playmaker. I think he's the only guy from this past draft class that's doing anything. The rest of them are useless right now.

Hopkins....he's been rock solid.

Online...for the most part they've been outstanding in pass pro. Good to see a resemblance of a running game and staying committed to it.


Jackson...keep getting him the ball.

Minus...
McVay...Terrible calls in the red zone, not a good call to run on 3rd and short to close out the game. Have to try and throw there and end the game.

Barry...just don't understand how every team makes 3rd and 14 look so easy. You need to adopt but of course you won't, cause you suck.

Refs...just straight garbage. Bad calls on both sides. I have no idea why the NFL wants this type of shit, but they seem to like it. That entire crew should be fired.

KC..the stats looks good, but you need to pick up your play. The no turnovers was good, but still too many inaccurate passes and missed reads. Right now you look like a 15 million dollar qb, which is fine, just remember that come contract time. The rookie up 95 is outplaying you.

Kerrigan/Smith...might need to draft another pass rusher. I've seen nothing from either of you.

D-line...just no talent so I can't blame these guys. They're playing like I thought they would.

Schneed10 09-27-2016 10:04 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
Kirk Cousins is 2nd in the NFL in passing yardage, behind Drew Brees. Cousins has 989 yards through three games, putting him on pace for 5,274 yards on the season.

At the end of the season fans will see that stat and many will conclude he's a franchise QB and should be paid huge long term money. But he's only 9th in yards per attempt and 17th in completion percentage.

Makes you realize how the position is so dependent upon other positions. If Cousins can put up 5,200 yards, what could other QBs do in this offense? Is 5,200 yards even a good thing?

I'd say it means you have enough confidence in your QB to chuck it around the yard, but the same can be said of a lot of QBs. Makes you wonder what a rookie with a good head on his shoulders could do in this offense.

Anyway, lots of time before we have to make a decision on Cousins. I want to see more games like the Giants game: put more balls on point, hit the deep balls when they're there, and get support from the running game.

scowan 09-27-2016 10:22 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1149842]Plus...

Crowder..dude is a player. Great draft pick

Cravens...playmaker. I think he's the only guy from this past draft class that's doing anything. The rest of them are useless right now.

Hopkins....he's been rock solid.

Online...for the most part they've been outstanding in pass pro. Good to see a resemblance of a running game and staying committed to it.


Jackson...keep getting him the ball.

Minus...
McVay...Terrible calls in the red zone, not a good call to run on 3rd and short to close out the game. Have to try and throw there and end the game.

Barry...just don't understand how every team makes 3rd and 14 look so easy. You need to adopt but of course you won't, cause you suck.

Refs...just straight garbage. Bad calls on both sides. I have no idea why the NFL wants this type of shit, but they seem to like it. That entire crew should be fired.

KC..the stats looks good, but you need to pick up your play. The no turnovers was good, but still too many inaccurate passes and missed reads. Right now you look like a 15 million dollar qb, which is fine, just remember that come contract time. The rookie up 95 is outplaying you.

Kerrigan/Smith...might need to draft another pass rusher. I've seen nothing from either of you.

D-line...just no talent so I can't blame these guys. They're playing like I thought they would.[/quote]

Couple of things on this post, I agree with some things but disagree with others.

Crowder....dude is not only a player but he is almost becoming Fantasy relevant.

Cravens.... may end up becoming the next Sean Taylor.(yes its still way too early to say that, but anyway...)

Its an O-Line not Online (sorry had to do it. lol)

Agree the Refs are terrible, especially on the Burton INT in the endzone. Show that to 100 people and 99 will say it was a catch.

Finally, everyone wants to burn on Kirk Cousins, but he totally outplayed 2 time Super Bowl champ Eli Manning. Also, did anyone see what Big Ben did on Sunday?...... 3 points. Everyone needs to get off Kirk Cousins.

FrenchSkin 09-27-2016 10:40 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=scowan;1149844]

Finally, everyone wants to burn on Kirk Cousins, but he totally outplayed 2 time Super Bowl champ Eli Manning. [B]Also, did anyone see what Big Ben did on Sunday?...... 3 points. [/B] Everyone needs to get off Kirk Cousins.[/quote]

I agree with you we need to calm down on Cousins. But IMO Big Ben didn't have such a bad game (well not as bad as the score makes it look), he made good throws, it's mainly on his receivers making drops at terrible times and the eagles D-line ripping the O-line apart both on running and passing games. The INT good have gone both ways and was not definitely not on him, good throw, good catch, but even greater play by the DB.

Btw this D-line is scary, I really don't know what we will be able to do against them. I say they do 85% of their defense's job. If we can nullify the D-line we'll be fine... but I really don't know how we could do that.

MTK 09-27-2016 10:44 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
How about some love for Trent Murphy? He's been balling out so far.

Chico23231 09-27-2016 10:48 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=MTK;1149846]How about some love for Trent Murphy? He's been balling out so far.[/quote]

fo sho, the last 2 games he's been great...I read that Murphy was replacing Kerrigan out on 3rd downs the second half. Hes been a pleasant surprise.

skinsfan69 09-27-2016 11:54 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=scowan;1149844]Couple of things on this post, I agree with some things but disagree with others.

Crowder....dude is not only a player but he is almost becoming Fantasy relevant.

Cravens.... may end up becoming the next Sean Taylor.(yes its still way too early to say that, but anyway...)

Its an O-Line not Online (sorry had to do it. lol)

Agree the Refs are terrible, especially on the Burton INT in the endzone. Show that to 100 people and 99 will say it was a catch.

Finally, everyone wants to burn on Kirk Cousins, but he totally outplayed 2 time Super Bowl champ Eli Manning. Also, did anyone see what Big Ben did on Sunday?...... 3 points. Everyone needs to get off Kirk Cousins.[/quote]

Online...lol.

Regarding KC. I mentioned in another post that he outplayed Manning cause he didn't turn the ball over. And I've always been pro Kirk. But he certainly isn't above criticism. He'd probably be the first to tell you he missed too many plays on Sun.

skinsfan69 09-27-2016 11:56 AM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
Forgot about Murphy. I wouldn't say he's Vaughn Miller or anything, but he's definitely playing his best ball since he's been here.

Ruhskins 09-27-2016 12:01 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
The Redskins Defense has 5 total takeaways in three games (which could easily have been 8). Not counting the game ending INT by Cravens, the offense has only managed to scores 6 points off these turnovers.

Special teams has also given the offense good field advantage three times (Cowpukes botched onside kick, fake punt pass-catch by Way/Dunbar, and Crowder's long punt return), and I think we came out with just 3 pts. in these situations.

The offense needs to take advantage of these opportunities and score points.

skinsfan69 09-27-2016 12:16 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
Red zone issues are troubling. Have to put more points on the board. I think some of it's play calling, execution, lack of a run game. Where is Jordan Reed when we get down there?

Chico23231 09-27-2016 12:36 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=skinsfan69;1149853]Red zone issues are troubling. Have to put more points on the board. I think some of it's play calling, execution, lack of a run game. Where is Jordan Reed when we get down there?[/quote]

For the Offense, for sure the no#1 thing is red zone offense and on the defense our no 1 issue is getting off the field on 3rd downs.

This is where our focus should be....probably an honorable mention is continue to playcall and gameplan the running game better. I don't think execution has been bad with the running game...

KI Skins Fan 09-27-2016 01:11 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
[quote=MTK;1149846]How about some love for Trent Murphy? He's been balling out so far.[/quote]

Speaking of Trent Murphy, it's becoming apparent that the Skins tried to move the wrong player inside. I think Preston Smith could be effective if used as an inside pass rusher on a regular basis.

Smith has a bigger frame than Murphy and could more easily put on weight to move inside permanently. He reminds me a lot of Justin Tuck who caused a lot of problems to offenses even though he was not the biggest DE in the world.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-27-2016 01:35 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
Usually when I read about someone losing weight or gaining muscle I just roll my eyes a little bit. It's been done before and it's not like there have been stellar reasons.

I was SO wrong about Murphy. Without being able to see his number, a few times I've been like, "Who is that guy?! Can't be Kerrigan, because he would be getting held around the neck with no flag." He has been beasting out for sure.

SFREDSKIN 09-27-2016 02:10 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
For you Sullivan lovers:

A source confirms that the Redskins will sign veteran center John Sullivan with questions surrounding starting center Kory Lichtensteiger and his calf injury. The NFL Network first reported the signing.

Steiger to IR, so long. It's funny all our old guys are in IR and done. Salary purge.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-27-2016 03:13 PM

Re: Giants Game Plus and Minus
 
So I guess Long back to guard and TW back in his original spot?


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