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skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 01:13 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1182873]I prefer continuity but i've seen enough that I wouldn't mind major changes.

I think Dan Snyder should inform Bruce Allen that he will no longer be involved in football-related matters with the team. Then Snyder should conduct a thorough search for a true GM. The new GM will manage all departments of football operations and he will report directly to Dan Snyder.

The new GM would immediately begin working on Free Agency and the Draft.[/quote]

I just don't see Dan letting Bruce go, now maybe we'll get lucky and he'll resign? I doubt either happen though.

CRedskinsRule 12-11-2017 01:27 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1182875]I just don't see Dan letting Bruce go, now maybe we'll get lucky and he'll resign? I doubt either happen though.[/quote]

We will see if Dan has learned. We are very close to the Zorn/Cerrato moment. Dan can either fire BA, bring in a GM and let him hire a true HC. OR BA stays, we bring in a Zorn equivalent, and a year from now we have banners being banned again.

KI Skins Fan 12-11-2017 01:34 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1182875]I just don't see Dan letting Bruce go, now maybe we'll get lucky and he'll resign? I doubt either happen though.[/quote]

I didn't say Snyder should fire Bruce Allen. He could let Bruce continue to win [U]off[/U] the field - and only off the field - as President of Administration, or something.

sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017 01:36 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1182872]I don't understand the Manziel talk? He is a coke head, Baker isn't even close to that.[/quote]

I was moreso thinking of size wise, playing style, and on field personalities. Not too many comparisons in the NFL. Not talking about off the field stuff.

If we don't keep Cousins I wouldn't be against picking him.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 01:41 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1182880]I was moreso thinking of size wise, playing style, and on field personalities. Not too many comparisons in the NFL. Not talking about off the field stuff.

If we don't keep Cousins I wouldn't be against picking him.[/quote]

I think he could be a RW type QB, I wouldn't mind taking him either.

over the mountain 12-11-2017 01:43 PM

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As much as Bruce rubs me the wrong way, aside from the mishandling of Cousins (which is huge but maybe a Snyder dictate), I think we have done okay with player acquisition, cap and contracts.

Snagged prime time FAs in Desean and Norman when other teams were in the hunt. Swearinger and Zach Brown have been good. I liked the Pryor signing at the time and give skins credit for only doing a 1 yr show me. I imagine a Vinny would have given him 5 years, 50 M.

Cap is in good shape. No big bad contracts on the books. Very little dead cap after this season.

How much credit/blame does he get vs Scot or Schaffer? Idk.

Contracts given out, I dont think is the problem. Of course, the mess up with Cousins is fireable by itself.

skinsfan69 12-11-2017 03:48 PM

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I just can't get into a draft thread in December. The draft is 5 months away.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 03:57 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes."

It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB?

sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017 03:57 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
As a Skins fan, its draft season the day after the draft ends. Of course the whole conversation really can't begin until after the franchise tag deadline expires.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 03:57 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1182903]I just can't get into a draft thread in December. The draft is 5 months away.[/quote]

I usually don't but what else we got?

sdskinsfan2001 12-11-2017 04:00 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1182908]Jay Gruden on Kirk Cousins, "He was not quite as accurate as he has been. Everyone who has seen Kirk play in his three years, knows he missed throws he normally makes."

It's comments like this that make u really wonder if Kirk has hit his ceiling and maybe we should look at a QB?[/quote]

Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.

metalskins 12-11-2017 04:09 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=over the mountain;1182883]As much as Bruce rubs me the wrong way, aside from the mishandling of Cousins (which is huge but maybe a Snyder dictate), I think we have done okay with player acquisition, cap and contracts.

Snagged prime time FAs in Desean and Norman when other teams were in the hunt. Swearinger and Zach Brown have been good. I liked the Pryor signing at the time and give skins credit for only doing a 1 yr show me. I imagine a Vinny would have given him 5 years, 50 M.

Cap is in good shape. No big bad contracts on the books. Very little dead cap after this season.

How much credit/blame does he get vs Scot or Schaffer? Idk.

Contracts given out, I dont think is the problem. Of course, the mess up with Cousins is fireable by itself.[/quote]

What huge contributors has Allen brought in that are six rounders, undrafted guys, free agents that nobody else wanted that turned into game changers? It's easy to talk about Pierre Garcon, DeSean Jackson, and Josh Norman. But he also lost Pierre Garcon and Desean Jackson. Probably won't keep Norman the way things are going. Alfred Morris was your six round guy, but he cut him loose. Frankly put, it's easy to find the high round guys, but Allen can't find quality depth for the team, and this has been apparent when much of your starters have been injured.

So no, I don't agree that Allen has done enough to stay. He needs to be shown the door first IMO!

skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 04:12 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1182914]Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.[/quote]

Hell I am hard to agree with that because I hate not having a QB

skinsfan69 12-11-2017 04:17 PM

Re: Looking at the draft.
 
[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1182914]Cousins will get way more than his actually play actually warrants just the market says so. He stunk yesterday. I'd let him leave and use the money elsewhere. But most people won't agree with me.[/quote]

When I see Minnesota rolling w/ Keenum it makes me think that paying Cousins 27-30 million isn't worth it. But we have enough games of Cousins to know he's pretty good, not the case yesterday. He did stink. I'd prefer that we put the trans tag on him, set the market and make a decision. If he leaves then go w/ Colt and draft a guy. But that means you're setting your team back cause you're creating a need, you're drafting a QB high because you don't want to pay your current starter and that pick could be someone on defense. IDK, the decision on KC is a real tough one.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2017 04:18 PM

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Kirk made a great play getting away from pressure and throwing a td but that INT was backup QB like and he does that too often


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