Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

If the Skins can get this done without giving up 1.15 it will be a huge win.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=Skinsfanatic;1219355][url]https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/04/cardinals-might-not-get-much-back-if-they-trade-josh-rosen/?sf208836517=1[/url][/quote]

if we get him for a 3 WOW

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=MTK;1219356]If the Skins can get this done without giving up 1.15 it will be a huge win.[/quote]

Seems unlikely. Teams at the end of the draft round looking for their next QB like the Patriots and San Diego are serious threats to the Skins. People always forget how the Patriots have constantly drafted QB relatively high (2nd, 3rd round) in the Brady era.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=Chico23231;1219358]Seems unlikely. Teams at the end of the draft round looking for their next QB like the Patriots and San Diego are serious threats to the Skins. People always forget how the Patriots have constantly drafted QB relatively high (2nd, 3rd round) in the Brady era.[/quote]

Yeah but they don't trade for QB's often, plus it doesn't look like TB12 is done anytime soon unfortunately. Now Chargers I could see

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

Peyton Manning on Rosen after the season ended " Josh is an extremely smart QB that had the kitchen sink thrown at him this season"

"He had a tough going but don't let the numbers fool you"

Remember folks Manning had 20+ Ints his rookie year.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1219357]if we get him for a 3 WOW[/quote]

If that is ACTUALLY the range of compensation the Cardinals are looking at, offer our 3rd and 5th round compensatory picks and just make it happen now. If it works out, he's a steal. If he turns out to be a bust, draft Tua next year.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;1219360]Peyton Manning on Rosen after the season ended " Josh is an extremely smart QB that had the kitchen sink thrown at him this season"

"He had a tough going but don't let the numbers fool you"

Remember folks Manning had 20+ Ints his rookie year.[/quote]

Bad team, horrible offensive line, he really had no shot at success

Even with that he showed some flashes and the arm talent is definitely there

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

A team wants to get rid of their top 10 pick after just one season and nobody sees a red flag? As a UCLA fan who watched a lot of their games he seemed to be someone who looked a lot better in the box score than in games. He ran up his stats against poor opponents and did poorly against the better opponents. At his ceiling he would be Kirk Cousins 2.0, someone who saves his worst mistakes for crucial moments and can't beat top ranked opponents.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

He's definitely worth our first rounder. Remember we wouldn't have to pay the signing bonus so he'd only occupy like $2M in cap space for us.

As a player I think he's a better prospect than any of the QBs available this year.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=Buffalo Bob;1219363][B]A team wants to get rid of their top 10 pick after just one season and nobody sees a red flag?[/B] As a UCLA fan who watched a lot of their games he seemed to be someone who looked a lot better in the box score than in games. He ran up his stats against poor opponents and did poorly against the better opponents. At his ceiling he would be Kirk Cousins 2.0, someone who saves his worst mistakes for crucial moments and can't beat top ranked opponents.[/quote]

I think it's more about how Rosen is bad fit for new coach's system, than it is about Rosen's talents. I didn't watch Arizona's games last year and I don't watch college ball so I don't know much about Rosen other than the hype. If Gruden feels Rosen is a good fit for his system and we can get him for 2nd or 3rd round pick, I would be satisfied with this move.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=GridIron26;1219365]I think it's more about how Rosen is bad fit for new coach's system, than it is about Rosen's talents. I didn't watch Arizona's games last year and I don't watch college ball so I don't know much about Rosen other than the hype. If Gruden feels Rosen is a good fit for his system and we can get him for 2nd or 3rd round pick, I would be satisfied with this move.[/quote]

You hit it right on the head SYSTEM makes a huge difference. I said after Kingsbury was hired that Rosen will probably be moved, the style of offense they want to run is like a Kansas City, QB moves around a lot and RPO IS heavy.. Rosen doesn't fit that mold, it has nothing to do with him being a bust lol.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

A new regime wants their own guys, this is all about Murray and not about Rosen


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Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=MTK;1219367]A new regime wants their own guys, this is all about Murray and not about Rosen


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Yep and our regime is trying to save jobs. Rosen to DC makes perfect sense

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

Rosen for a 2nd is a win for the Redskins.

The last 10+ years of 2nd round picks has been disastrous.
Getting a QB with first round talent for a 2nd is worth it considering our QB situation.

If he doesn't work out this year, we will most likely end up with a new HC and top 5 pick next year so we can start over again without losing much.

We need to do this and get an edge rusher with 1.15.

Re: Josh Rosen Trade Rumors: Redskins Have 'Openly' Discussed QB If Made Available
 

[quote=jamf;1219369]Rosen for a 2nd is a win for the Redskins.

The last 10+ years of 2nd round picks has been disastrous.
Getting a QB with first round talent for a 2nd is worth it considering our QB situation.

If he doesn't work out this year, we will most likely end up with a new HC and top 5 pick next year so we can start over again without losing much.

We need to do this and get an edge rusher with 1.15.[/quote]

I'm fine with LG / WR / EDGE at 15 if we get Rosen.