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Will you folks please stop advocating for cutting Ryan Kerrigan. He is still an above average player IMHO. Also, depth has been an ongoing problem for this team. We now have an opportunity to have outstanding depth on the DL and the ability to keep our D-Linemen fresh. And, yes, he can certainly play DE in a 4-3 on passing downs.

Ryan has already said he wants to be in D.C. and would work something out with the Skins in order to stay.

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Yeah I really don’t get the multiple people calling for him to get cut. Don’t we want as many good edge rushers as possible?!

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1241540]Manusky’s schemes were complex for the players, but the on-field result was little blitzing or stunting. There was little pressure on the QB and the results were predictably dismal. The Redskins were 27th in defense in 2019.

Jack Del Rio will take Manusky’s dumpster fire and turn this defense around. He’s taken several team’s defenses from near the bottom to very close to the top! We have some talented personnel that just need to be coached, motivated and instructed to reach their potential. I bet a guy like Sweat will double his sacks next year.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]I didn't like Manusky's defenses either, but the sack rate ranked 4th in 2019.

[url]https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl/2019[/url]

That's not no pressure on the QB.

I think it's more accurate to say the pressure was inconsistent, especially against good qbs who could beat a blitz.

I can't find the numbers right off, those with a pff sub probably could, but I believe we blitzed alot. I also believe those blitz's weren't good against good QBs.

I also don't believe the blitzes were coached well and timed well. Good teams picked them up.

I also agree Del Rio is going to be a huge improvement. The two just have very different styles.
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[quote=SkinzWin;1241564]Yeah I really don’t get the multiple people calling for him to get cut. Don’t we want as many good edge rushers as possible?![/quote]

Yes, we do! To be clear, I meant that we should draft Chase Young [U]and[/U] keep Ryan Kerrigan.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1241573]Yes, we do! To be clear, I meant that we should draft Chase Young [U]and[/U] keep Ryan Kerrigan.[/quote]

I can see the perspective where he has some(?) trade value, a large salary next year (>$10M), would presumably want a new contract for 4 more years, is getting older and if you are going to draft Chase Young then we have waaaay too many resources invested in the front 4, 5 first rounders + Matt I. We desperately need a free safety worthy of the position, a new corner on the assumption that Norman is cut, and that doesn't even consider what we need on offence.... A pass rush is good, but you have to be able to score points too

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1241575]I can see the perspective where he has some(?) trade value, a large salary next year (>$10M), would presumably want a new contract for 4 more years, is getting older and if you are going to draft Chase Young then we have waaaay too many resources invested in the front 4, 5 first rounders + Matt I. We desperately need a free safety worthy of the position, a new corner on the assumption that Norman is cut, and that doesn't even consider what we need on offence.... A pass rush is good, but you have to be able to score points too[/quote]

One thing I wrote was incorrect. Although Ryan said repeatedly that he wants to stay in D.C., he did no say he would try to work something out contractually with the Redskins.

I think you're right about too many $$ invested in the DL if we draft Chase Young. Even if we don't draft Young, Kerrigan's $11.5M salary may be too big a hit to take for the Skins. I'd like to see RK stay but I believe he will need to agree to a restructuring of his contract to do so. If the Skins can get a mid-round pick for him in a trade, then he may be traded anyway.

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If there isn't a huge market for Kerrigan, and I really don't know if there is (although I guess not), then he could be a poor man's Dwight Freeny.

In other words, he could play much fewer, high quality snaps at a bargain price.



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[quote=DYoungJelly;1241579]If there isn't a huge market for Kerrigan, and I really don't know if there is (although I guess not), then he could be a poor man's Dwight Freeny.

In other words, he could play much fewer, high quality snaps at a [B]bargain price[/B].



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That would be fine, but what are the chances

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1241580]That would be fine, but what are the chances[/quote]

Better than you might think because his current contract is not guaranteed.

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Love the hire! Del Rio spits fire and is a great d-coordinator. Already love Rivera lol!

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I hate the cap.
I really like Ryan Kerrigan and I would like him on the team. My problem is he is making a ton of money and at 31, wear and tear is starting to creep in and effect his production. By comparison Chase Young from Hyattsville, Md. is 20 years old, turning 21 in 2020.
If Kerrigan agreed to a restructured deal that is more incentive driven to pay him big if he achieves on the field, but protects the cap if he does not, by all means stay. Same with Norman. Norman is not “great” anymore but if he took a pay cut I would like him to stay as a backup, maybe as slot CB? Quality depth is important, but at the right price.
Trent Williams needs to show he is healthy. His knee is worrisome.
Paul Richardson and Jordan Reed need to go!
Jack Del Rio is a great hire.

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I like this hire. Del Rio can run the D and Ron can run the team. AT Carolina, Ron was focused on calling the D. This allows him to run the team. He needs to focus on all areas of the team.

Now we need to nail down the OC position.

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[QUOTE=DYoungJelly;1241566]I didn't like Manusky's defenses either, but the sack rate ranked 4th in 2019.

[url]https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl/2019[/url]

That's not no pressure on the QB.

I think it's more accurate to say the pressure was inconsistent, especially against good qbs who could beat a blitz.

I can't find the numbers right off, those with a pff sub probably could, but I believe we blitzed alot. I also believe those blitz's weren't good against good QBs.

I also don't believe the blitzes were coached well and timed well. Good teams picked them up.

I also agree Del Rio is going to be a huge improvement. The two just have very different styles.
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The Redskins had a great sack number but ultimately it meant NOTHING because the defense was rated 27th in the NFL. An example is Giant’s QB Jones who toasted us for FIVE TD passes - this is a rookie QB who struggled mightily against many other teams. The sack number tells me that we have the raw talent on our DL, if used properly.

By going to a 4-3 we’ll properly use our DL talent, so that the EDGE rushers aren’t falling back into coverage instead of pressuring the QB.

Blitzing or stunting just makes the QB’s analysis of the defense (right before the snap) that much more difficult. I don’t have any numbers to back up my assertion that the Redskins did not often blitz or stunt. If we draft Chase Young we won’t need to blitz very often, but by stunting a lot, the QB won’t be able to assume it’s just a normal 4 man rush.

I believe we will see an immediate and substantial improvement in the defense under Del Rio / Rivera. Both coaches have taken bad defenses and made them elite quickly. I think our defense will take 2 years to get there. Getting Chase Young and some good FA in the backfield will have an immediate effect, but Manusky dug us a big hole to get out of.




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Pressure wasn’t our problem this year getting off the field on 3rd downs was


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[quote=MTK;1241602]Pressure wasn’t our problem this year getting off the field on 3rd downs was


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Yes. I think we were last in the NFL in 3rd down defense.
Added stat: [URL="https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-third-down-conversion-pct"]https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/opponent-third-down-conversion-pct[/URL]