Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 

Just the viewpoint from an educated Brit with a mixed race family. Don't shoot me down, these are just musings, and as I'm a) not an American and b) I picked the Skins when the sport became popular in the UK, I have less of a vested interest.

I can't help thinking this is a minority of parties stirring the pot up every year or so. I mean, if you want to get into semantics and imagery, maybe the retort is "well rename/image the Patriots then too?". I mean you can easily argue that their name and logo (especially the old one) implied that only white men can be patriots. I don't believe that was the intent but it's a valid argument.

Having spent nearly a day next to a blue collar native American on a Greyhound bus discussing it among a few topics, I got the distinct impression he felt that most NA's would suggest they have far more/bigger issues than the naming of one sports team. If I recall, and it was quite a while ago, he said that maybe if there was a mass protest or the like then they should change it, but he would rather the effort go into improving job opportunities etc. than changing a brand name.

Unlike Rocnrik, I'd still follow the team, but I can see both sides of the coin. It can be construed as derogatory in a historical context, but it can also be construed as celebrating a people that should be proud of their heritage that was all but destroyed. If they did change the name, I'd have no issue as long as the new name carried that same message of pride in a culture rich in heritage.

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Change it to Skins....its what we call em anyway. It goes from racist to all encompassing.

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I call them that anyways... just keep logo drop the nickname and let folks call them whatever .. hopefully in the near future we can call them Winners!!

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[quote=punch it in;1252684]Change it to Skins....its what we call em anyway. It goes from racist to all encompassing.[/quote]

Works for me. :-)

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As long as they keep the name Redskins its not going to matter what logo is used, its going to be a problem. I wouldn't be surprised if Goodell and the league pressure the Skins to change the name within the next few years. Hopefully when they change the name its not something stupid like the River Dogs.

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I think the name and logo will both need to go.

Hey Irish you owe me $100 from our bet a few years back lol

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If I'm Snyder and I'm forced to change, I'm changing name to:

Washington Manifest Destiny

Logo is a wagon. Alternate, a train.

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[quote=MTK;1252854]I think the name and logo will both need to go.

Hey Irish you owe me $100 from our bet a few years back lol[/quote]

I thought we had 5 years on that bet. Time cant be going that fast I hope.

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[quote=irish;1252856]I thought we had 5 years on that bet. Time cant be going that fast I hope.[/quote]

Believe it or not we made the bet in 2013

Don't worry about it, just funny that it's been that long

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[quote=MTK;1252858]Believe it or not we made the bet in 2013

Don't worry about it, just funny that it's been that long[/quote]

Really, 2013!? I thought it was in 2017. Wow.

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[quote=irish;1252860]Really, 2013!? I thought it was in 2017. Wow.[/quote]

Your lucky MTK isn't Morty Seinfeld. If you compound interest that initial 100 quarterly, you would owe him even more now.

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[quote=irish;1252860]Really, 2013!? I thought it was in 2017. Wow.[/quote]

Post 43 and 44 [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=51711&highlight=irish&page=3"]here[/URL]

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[quote=MTK;1252863]Post 43 and 44 [URL="http://www.thewarpath.net/showthread.php?t=51711&highlight=irish&page=3"]here[/URL][/quote]

Matty with the receipts. LOL!!! :laughing2

Re: Skins getting heat again over name issue
 

[quote=MTK;1252858]Believe it or not we made the bet in 2013

Don't worry about it, just funny that it's been that long[/quote]

I'll pay you guys a beer is that bet is honored next time I come to DC.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1252867]Matty with the receipts. LOL!!! :laughing2[/quote]

Some say that's why Irish hasn't been around the last couple of years lol