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rocnrik 05-02-2023 07:59 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
I got no clue on what any of these guys will do in the pros… injury or life circumstances play a huge role .. My gut tells me Stroud will be one of the best and Young could falter ( my opinion only) … it’s all opinions ! The whole draft thing is brilliant marketing.. the mock drafts etc .. fantasy football itself is brilliant for the sport !! It’s all entertaining for sure !! But I do have one stone cold lock … when next season starts we will all be on here celebrating or bitchin 😳😀

Chief X_Phackter 05-02-2023 11:26 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
Too early for grades, but if we must, I'll give them an A, just because.

They drafted six players at the three positions I thought needed to be addressed - Secondary, Offensive Line, and Edge, then picked up an intriguing RB who they apparently had graded much higher than where he was selected, and who Bieniemy reportedly really likes.

I am not on top of the world about any of the players, but I'm happy with the positions they drafted. Time will tell if they pan out.

Still more work to do (as always) between now and September.

MTK 05-03-2023 08:32 AM

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[YT]BsoVhCL-9wI[/YT]

First thought, damn this guy's running style looks an awful lot like B-Rob, he just won't go down

Chico23231 05-03-2023 09:07 AM

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Has anybody mentioned this dude:

UCLA Football WR/RB Kazmeir Allen we signed as udfa?

I want to see what EB can do with him on offense, super versatile and natural returner on special teams

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-03-2023 09:32 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341601][YT]BsoVhCL-9wI[/YT]

First thought, damn this guy's running style looks an awful lot like B-Rob, he just won't go down[/quote]

Yeah it is a lot like B Rob, I think he is a little bit faster than Rob as well.

nonniey 05-03-2023 10:18 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341546][URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/4/30/23691673/2023-nfl-draft-grades-mel-kiper-jr-gives-the-washington-commanders-their-highest-score"]2023 NFL Draft Grades: Mel Kiper Jr gives the Washington Commanders their highest score[/URL][/quote]

Their highest score was a B-???

nonniey 05-03-2023 10:21 AM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1341558]Biggest 2023 NFL draft questions for all 32 teams.

[url]https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/36291070/nfl-draft-2023-biggest-post-draft-questions-all-32-teams[/url]

Did the Commanders improve their offensive line?

Washington's front struggled last season, allowing the seventh-most sacks in the NFL (48). The Commanders did add two starters in free agency in center Nick Gates and tackle/guard Andrew Wylie but did not draft a player who would be projected to start in 2023. That means they still have a void at left guard. But one of their past drafts might yield the winner there -- Saahdiq Charles (fourth round, 2020) or Chris Paul (seventh round, 2022). Third-round pick Ricky Stromberg also will have a shot, but his best spot might be center. The Commanders have good talent at running back and receiver and intriguing young tight ends, but need a stronger line to protect inexperienced quarterback Sam Howell.

-- John Keim[/quote]

Wow, if they are saying Gates is a starter then the team is screwed.

MTK 05-03-2023 10:41 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
Looking back at the 2020 draft

1st Chase Young
2nd Antonio Gibson
4th Saadiq Charles
4th Antonio Gandy-Golden
5th Keith Ismael
5th Khaleke Hudson
7th Kam Curl
7th James Smith-Williams

Two nice hits on Gibson and Curl, solid special teamer with Hudson, ROY with CY but obviously his situation is very much up in the air. Charles hasn't done much to date and his time is running out. AGG total flop. JSW is a solid rotation guy. Ismael is still in the league, 49ers I think.

Overall I'd give this a solid C+ with room for it to go to a B+ or A if CY bounces back and if SC takes a starting guard spot and runs with it.

MTK 05-03-2023 10:42 AM

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[quote=nonniey;1341618]Wow, if they are saying Gates is a starter then the team is screwed.[/quote]

Starting a rookie center with a 2nd year QB sounds like a bad idea. Gates is definitely looking like the starter to begin the season.

skinsfaninok 05-03-2023 10:50 AM

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I hope EB can work his magic because on paper our OL looks shaky

MTK 05-03-2023 10:56 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
[URL="https://www.hogshaven.com/2023/5/3/23709321/film-session-why-the-commanders-selected-cb-emmanuel-forbes-at-16"]Film Session: Why the Commanders selected CB Emmanuel Forbes at 16[/URL]

Ruhskins 05-03-2023 10:58 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1341624]I hope EB can work his magic because on paper our OL looks shaky[/quote]

Here's my projected o-line this upcoming season:
Leno (LT)
Charles/Paul/FA (LG)
Gates (C)
Cosmi (RG)
Wylie (RT)

Having Norwood and Trai Turner out of the picture is addition by subtraction, if Gates can stay healthy that will be a big plus over last year, and I can't believe how underrated the Wylie signing is being seen by fans.

Add to that an OC that will hopefully learn to adapt to situations and run the ball more.

Am I 100% confident on this o-line situation? No. But fans keep talking about as if we are rolling out the same line from last year.

MTK 05-03-2023 11:01 AM

Re: Draft grades
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1341627]Here's my projected o-line this upcoming season:
Leno (LT)
Charles/Paul/FA (LG)
Gates (C)
Cosmi (RG)
Wylie (RT)

Having Norwood and Trai Turner out of the picture is addition by subtraction, if Gates can stay healthy that will be a big plus over last year, and I can't believe how underrated the Wylie signing is being seen by fans.

Add to that an OC that will hopefully learn to adapt to situations and run the ball more.

Am I 100% confident on this o-line situation? No. But fans keep talking about as if we are rolling out the same line from last year.[/quote]

There are question marks for sure, but I'd be surprised if there is no improvement.

Schneed10 05-03-2023 01:50 PM

Re: Draft grades
 
[quote=MTK;1341601][YT]BsoVhCL-9wI[/YT]

First thought, damn this guy's running style looks an awful lot like B-Rob, he just won't go down[/quote]

Completely agree, he's a B-Rob clone. Looks like he has decent speed, like B-Rob before he got shot speed.

I think we're looking at a clone of Robinson and thus I don't know that I'd expect Rodriguez to be active on gamedays unless someone is dinged up. Rodriguez can pass protect some too so maybe he gets a 3rd down back role, but if you look at what Bienemey had in KC it was Jerrick McKinnon in the 3rd down back role. A fast dude that can catch and block. I'm not sure a bruiser like Rodriguez is the ideal 3rd down RB.

I think they'll look to sign a 3rd down back like McKinnon which makes Rodriguez the depth guy for when something happens to Robinson or AG.

Schneed10 05-03-2023 01:53 PM

Re: Draft grades
 
[quote=Ruhskins;1341627]Here's my projected o-line this upcoming season:
Leno (LT)
Charles/Paul/FA (LG)
Gates (C)
Cosmi (RG)
Wylie (RT)

Having Norwood and Trai Turner out of the picture is addition by subtraction, if Gates can stay healthy that will be a big plus over last year, and I can't believe how underrated the Wylie signing is being seen by fans.

Add to that an OC that will hopefully learn to adapt to situations and run the ball more.

Am I 100% confident on this o-line situation? No. But fans keep talking about as if we are rolling out the same line from last year.[/quote]

Fully agree with this, I see this being the line to start unless they pick up somebody else, and probably the #1 most important thing that will help the line is the scheme change from Turner to Bienemey. I think the ball is coming out faster with EB.


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