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WCommandersfan99 03-19-2024 03:41 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1360688]Yes he has been playing 5 years, but didn't have a break out campaign until this year. 4 years very meh, but that experience can go a long way in year 5 especially with the personnel he had.[/quote]He beat Alabama in 2022 throwing for around 3,000 yds, nearly 70% completion, and minimal picks. He also had a lot of yards at ASU and production prior to going to LSU. These weren't Heisman numbers like 2023 but still very good seasons. The offenses seem to always go and produce yards and points when he is under center.

simbosargos75 03-19-2024 03:54 PM

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For me, just not Daniels please. Not because I don't think he'll be awesome, but because I fear he'll only be awesome for like 2 years. He's just too small for the NFL in my opinion.

SkinsGuru 03-19-2024 04:17 PM

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[quote=simbosargos75;1360696]For me, just not Daniels please. Not because I don't think he'll be awesome, but because I fear he'll only be awesome for like 2 years. He's just too small for the NFL in my opinion.[/quote]

He is listed at 6'4" 210lb . . .while not heavy, the height is great and he can add 10 - 20 pounds and still remain fast at that height.

sdskinsfan2001 03-19-2024 04:22 PM

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At this point, you're either fine w/ his weight or not drafting him because of it. Don't think many minds will change one way or another between now and April 25th.

sdskinsfan2001 03-19-2024 04:37 PM

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WCommandersfan99 03-19-2024 05:13 PM

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Patrick Mahomes has proven winning Super Bowls now is about being a playmaker more than ever at qb. The man already has 3 rings at a pretty young age with a lot of different receiver combinations. Mahomes is the primary reason for their success because he makes plays. All 3 of his Super Bowls he came back from a double digit deficit when a legitimate argument could be made that the other teams (49ers, Eagles) were the better team. Mahomes made the plays though and won the SBs for his Chiefs.

Jayden Daniels and Caleb Williams are the best playmakers in this draft and have unique skillsets that win games. I'm not saying they're Mahomes, but they make plays. Daniels production in big boy SEC football was incredible in that rough conference. Yes he may get hurt but he really hasn't yet. Maye or any other of these qbs can get hurt also. Unfair to say he can get hurt because he's fast or not as heavy as other qbs.

SkinsGuru 03-19-2024 05:19 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1360698]At this point, you're either fine w/ his weight or not drafting him because of it. Don't think many minds will change one way or another between now and April 25th.[/quote]

height wise his is prototypical at 6'4" . . . its his weight people are worried about.

rocnrik 03-19-2024 06:51 PM

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tried to show hi lites of Maye and Daniels .. not sure why it's not working ..

punch it in 03-19-2024 07:17 PM

QB Prospects Thread
 
[QUOTE=simbosargos75;1360696]For me, just not Daniels please. Not because I don't think he'll be awesome, but because I fear he'll only be awesome for like 2 years. He's just too small for the NFL in my opinion.[/QUOTE]


Harold Carmichael.

Staubach was 6-3 200 pounds and ran all over the place. Tarkenton was 6-0 190. Russ aint exactly big and jacked.

So many variables- oline play, play calling, keeping your head on a swivel when you take off, knowing when and how to get outta bounds or slide.

I think like any other kid outta college he can add 10-15 pounds.

You can get hurt standing in the pocket and getting blindsided from behind just as easily as you can running.

Edit Randall Cunningham not Harold Carmichael. Lol

mredskins 03-19-2024 09:10 PM

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1360697]He is listed at 6'4" 210lb . . .while not heavy, the height is great and he can add 10 - 20 pounds and still remain fast at that height.[/quote]

going throw a name out there

Randall Cunningham; playing heaight and weight 6-4 214 ilbs

had i say a pretty good career and played at a time when QBs were not so protected by the rules

JD ends up like Randall i be pretty happy with that pick

mooby 03-20-2024 07:10 AM

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Really the only concern about Daniels is his weight. If his pocket presence is as good as his accuracy it's not a big deal. He will take hits, as long as he can avoid most of them we're good.

I'm leaning more towards Daniels than Maye - Maye looks good physically but everybody says Daniels is the better player. Take the guy who can play football.

MTK 03-20-2024 08:36 AM

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Pretty crazy how tight lipped this front office is, we really have no idea which way they are leaning. Seems that more experts have us taking Maye, so because of that I'll say it will be Daniels. Either way I like the potential of both guys at #2 and won't hate it either way.

MTK 03-20-2024 08:40 AM

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Really think the weight thing with Daniels is overblown. He definitely needs to add some bulk to his frame, shouldn't be hard for him to add 10-15 lbs of good weight in the next few years.

simbosargos75 03-20-2024 09:41 AM

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RG3 ptsd.

I love Daniels. I think he'll be very good in the NFL. I just worry about the hits he'll take.

Also, Staubach, Carmichael, Cunningham, etc were playing against 210# linebackers and 250# defensive lineman. Not really comparable.

Chief X_Phackter 03-20-2024 09:42 AM

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[quote=MTK;1360734]Really think the weight thing with Daniels is overblown. He definitely needs to add some bulk to his frame, shouldn't be hard for him to add 10-15 lbs of good weight in the next few years.[/quote]

My guess is he's already well on his way to doing that. Pro Day may surprise some folks...but I too think the weight thing is overblown.

Anyway, are NFL players that much bigger than SEC football players? I mean I know they are the elite of the elite, but it's not like he'll have LSU or AZ State players protecting him either.


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