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[quote=FRPLG;220696]I don't see how this reflects on the Boys at all. Stuff like this has never been even remotely an issue with him. If you want to fault them there are plenty of other reasons but for crissake realize that clearly there is something a little more important going on here. They guy is a world class douchebag. There is no one who would dent that. But he is also a human being who does charity work among some other positive things. I hope this is just a blip on the psychological radar and we can go back to bashing him fairly for things that aren't as important.[/quote]

What?

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;220697]I'm not saying I wish the man harm, but I really can't believe the gushing I'm seeing over this guy.[/quote]

I have to agree. TO being a nutcase that tried to commit suicide has no affect whatsoever on my day to day life. Three to five of our soldiers die every week in Iraq, and there's not so much as a mention of it, but a rich diva wide receiver, that just about everyone on this forum hated before today, tries to kill himself and there's a nine page thread about it.

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[quote=BMF21;220700]some of you are stupid asses..... a player you can hate, but this is still a human.......[/quote]

Some humans I love and hope live forever. But I don't know all humans, and I can't possibly care about all human beings. TO is someone I just don't care about, my friend. With or without him on this Earth, I'll get along just fine.

In the words of Dolph Lundgren, "If he dies, he dies."

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[QUOTE=PSUSkinsFan21;220697]I have to admit the only reason I even care about this story is the fantasy implications on my team. [/QUOTE]
I'm following this story closely for the same reason; especially since crappy Daunte is my QB and Cooley has been M.I.A. in terms of production.

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[quote=Schneed10;220716]As a player, I hope he can't suit up for the Cowboys for a long time.

As a person, I can't say I'm glad he tried to kill himself because I'm not a psycho, but I sure as hell am not sorry about it. I could give two craps if that dude lives or dies. That's the God's honest truth.[/quote]

Well, we don't need to pay a ton of attention to it. He tried to die and lived, so let him get his help and move on.

End of story, no further media circus necessary. Who knows, the media could've contributed to his stress and looniness. He lived to impress them (or at least get their attention) and has been failing lately. His 3 catches for 19 yards against the Skins, dropped passes (especially in the end zone) and broken finger certainly didn't deserve any headlines. He needs attention like a toddler and it probably wasn't good for him psychologically.

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[quote=Southpaw;220719]I have to agree. TO being a nutcase that tried to commit suicide has no affect whatsoever on my day to day life. Three to five of our soldiers die every week in Iraq, and there's not so much as a mention of it, but a rich diva wide receiver, that just about everyone on this forum hated before today, tries to kill himself and there's a nine page thread about it.[/quote]

Well this is a football forum, and TO is a football player. That's why it gets a 9-page thread. If you go to a politics forum or an Iraq war forum, you'll see plenty of long-ass threads with plenty of passionate posts.

But I'm in agreement. If TO killed himself I'd still be singing Jimmy Cracked Corn and I Don't Care.

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[quote=Southpaw;220719]I have to agree. TO being a nutcase that tried to commit suicide has no affect whatsoever on my day to day life. [B]Three to five of our soldiers die every week in Iraq, and there's not so much as a mention of it,[/B] but a rich diva wide receiver, that just about everyone on this forum hated before today, tries to kill himself and there's a nine page thread about it.[/quote]

Gotta disagree with you there...I hear casualty reports EVERY single day on the radio news, but the media is only reporting it for the same reason they care about Owens...controversey. The media overall doesn't care a bit about ANYONE's life, they just want to get people to look at their headlines.

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I hate to make a comparison between T.O. and our soldiers at war because, really, we're comparing apples and oranges.

But as far as a newsworthy event, the war has been going on for a few years now and we've become somewhat numb to the reality of the killing and the violence that goes on every day.

T.O. on the other hand is entertainment. So whenever his name hits the airwaves, it's like Paris Hilton did something.

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OK, back to the topic. Sorry...

Owens has earned all of the "compassion" he receives. You reap what you sow, T.O.

As a human who's someone's family member, I feel bad for anyone's loss...but as an individual...I also find it hard to feel so sorry for him.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;220723]I'm following this story closely for the same reason; especially since crappy Daunte is my QB and Cooley has been M.I.A. in terms of production.[/quote]
No offense Monk but your team is garbage. Hey, did you go to sherwood?

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Someone please tell me what has T.O. sowed that's worthy of reaping possibly losing his life??

If he's not worthy of compassion, then none of us are!

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[quote=12thMan;220732]I hate to make a comparison between T.O. and our soldiers at war because, really, we're comparing apples and oranges. [/quote]

Comparing TO and soldiers is apples and oranges, but my point was that there are people in this country that die every day that have given much more of themselves for the benefit of others than TO. A lot of people are acting like we would be losing a national treasure if TO died, and that reaction just seems a little over dramatic.

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[quote=12thMan;220736]Someone please tell me what has T.O. sowed that's worthy of reaping possibly losing his life??

If he's not worthy of compassion, then none of us are![/quote]

Wow, you interpretted THAT the wrong way.

Quick translation: He didn't care about anyone else so no one else cares about him. Got it?

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[QUOTE=Meast;220735]No offense Monk but your team is garbage. Hey, did you go to sherwood?[/QUOTE]
Yes my team is garbage and yes I went to Sherwood. Now please stop stalking me.

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[quote=Southpaw;220737]Comparing TO and soldiers is apples and oranges, but my point was that there are people in this country that die every day that have given much more of themselves for the benefit of others than TO. A lot of people are acting like we would be losing a national treasure if TO died, and that reaction just seems a little dramatic.[/quote]

You are 100% correct.

Unfortunately, look at us, we also fell into the media hype and Owens' own craving for nonstop attention.

He's like a bad rash that you can't ignore.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;220739]Yes my team is garbage and yes I went to Sherwood. Now please stop stalking me.[/quote]

Yeah Meast, we don't want to see a report about you and AMD on TSG. :D

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Ooops! I was looking for a football forum... I think I stumbled on Dr. Phill's forum instead. My bad. Let's all send TO a big group hug.

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I think to a man/woman everyone here acknowledges the fact that our men and women are dying in Iraq daily. We're extremely grateful for that too.

I don't think T.O. getting so much attention takes away or undermine their efforts in any way, I might add. But like I said, since T.O., because of antics, is now a celebrity in his own right, whenever he twitches it's news worthy. And just because it's newsworthy, we have no right to pass moral judgement on him as an individual.

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TO, pre-incident: F*cktard
TO, post-incident: Crazy F*cktard

Is that about right?

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[quote=Buster;220738]Wow, you interpretted THAT the wrong way.

Quick translation: He didn't care about anyone else so no one else cares about him. Got it?[/quote]

I don't know what you think I interpreted the wrong way, but I'm open to finding out. No one cares? Maybe not here on Warpath, but surely someone somewhere is hearbroken over this.

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The denials begin.... Who could have predicted....

"Former NFL player Deion Sanders told the NFL Network that he had spoken to Owens and Owens said, "Man, that didn't happen," referring to reports of a suicide attempt. Sanders relayed that Owens said the pain medication did not agree with him and when coupled with supplements he was taking, it left him incoherent when asked about the suicide attempt."

[url=http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/108318/detail.html]Owens camp disputes police report - NFL - NBCSports.com[/url]

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220751]The denials begin.... Who could have predicted....

"Former NFL player Deion Sanders told the NFL Network that he had spoken to Owens and Owens said, "Man, that didn't happen," referring to reports of a suicide attempt. Sanders relayed that Owens said the pain medication did not agree with him and when coupled with supplements he was taking, it left him incoherent when asked about the suicide attempt."

[URL="http://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/108318/detail.html"]Owens camp disputes police report - NFL - NBCSports.com[/URL][/quote]


And let the games begin!! This is going to be ongoing for Dallas. TO HELL!

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220746]TO, pre-incident: F*cktard
TO, post-incident: Crazy F*cktard

Is that about right?[/quote]

I think you summed it up perfectly AJFC.

TO makes millions of dollars as an NFL receiver. He could be considered one of the best in the game based on his performances on the field. All of his negative publicity was due to him being an ass over and over again. He brought it all on himself. Now we're supposed to feel sorry for him, because he's a human? "Don't cry for me Argentina" Eff him.

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[quote=Ade Jimoh Fan Club;220746]TO, pre-incident: F*cktard
TO, post-incident: Crazy F*cktard

Is that about right?[/quote]


LOL!!!! Hardest I've laughed in weeks. Awesome! LOL!!

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[quote=12thMan;220710]What trangrassions?? And yes, if there are transgressions isn't he worthy of forgiveness?

And this isn't directed at you per se, PSU...but why are we suddenly judging T.O. Especially since we don't know the whole story. But whatever.[/quote]

Just clarification:
See prior post RE: McNabb, Garcia, locker room cancer, etc.

And I don't think anyone is worthy of forgiveness who hasn't actually sought forgiveness or admitted to doing something wrong. T.O. has never expressed any regret for his actions against teammates.......so why would I forgive someone who's never asked for it, shown any remorse whatsoever, or admitted they were wrong?

As for judging him? I, for one, judged him to be an a$$hole for years now. Nothing about these recent events has changed my opinion.

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One thing we can say about him is he's never had off the field issues, until now. He's never been locked up, picked up for DWI, caught with hookers and coke in a hotel room, etc.

He might be a pain in the ass in the locker room, and even that's debateable to an extent. Alot of his ex-teammates say he wasn't a problem. You also have to consider how some of his antics are blown way out of proportion by the media.

Hate the player, but I don't see any reason to hate the man.

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Michael Irvin on the Dan Patrick show reporting that T.O. "just mistakenly took an incorrect amount of pain pills" after traning yesterday, as his hand was hurting. Bill Parcells to hold press conf shortly.

I....did not..........have ..sex with that............woman!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;220760]Just clarification:
See prior post RE: McNabb, Garcia, locker room cancer, etc.

And I don't think anyone is worthy of forgiveness who hasn't actually sought forgiveness or admitted to doing something wrong. T.O. has never expressed any regret for his actions against teammates.......so why would I forgive someone who's never asked for it, shown any remorse whatsoever, or admitted they were wrong?

As for judging him? I, for one, judged him to be an a$$hole for years now. Nothing about these recent events has changed my opinion.[/quote]

To be fair, he did apologize to the Eagles once he realized that he really was expendable and that they were going to bench him for the season.

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A severely flawed human. Nothing funny about his attempted suicide/incorrect dsage.

But it does cause the Cow-Whores problems and that I like!

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[quote=Mattyk72;220762]One thing we can say about him is he's never had off the field issues, until now. He's never been locked up, picked up for DWI, caught with hookers and coke in a hotel room, etc.

[/quote]

How did he ever get a contract from the Cowboys?

[A denial has been issued via D. Sanders, I think it is safe to add some levity]

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But it does cause the Cow-Whores problems and that I like![/quote]

LOL!!!!!! I couldn't agree more!!!!!!

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If he did take that many pills he should be suspended for violating the leagues substance abuse policy.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;220762]One thing we can say about him is he's never had off the field issues, until now. He's never been locked up, picked up for DWI, caught with hookers and coke in a hotel room, etc.

He might be a pain in the ass in the locker room, and even that's debateable to an extent. Alot of his ex-teammates say he wasn't a problem. You also have to consider how some of his antics are blown way out of proportion by the media.

Hate the player, but I don't see any reason to hate the man.[/QUOTE]
I think TO is great - he torpedoed the Eagles for a year, and now he's in Dallass to do the same. I wish him a speedy recovery so he can get back in that locker room to screw things up for the Cowgirlz.

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For those of you who are unwilling or unable to show any empathy for a person battling with suicidal depression (if the reports are true), then I hope from the bottom of my heart that you never have to experience depression up close and personal. As someone who has seen depression and suicide in my family, I can tell you it is the most gut wrenching and painful thing you have ever even attempted to comprehend.

T.O. is an first class jerk, no if ands or buts, but to show no empathy for another human struggling like that is pretty low. To joke about it is reprehensible. Frankly, I am embarrased to be a member of this community right now.

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I can't believe some of the stuff people write out here. You are talking about a human being for christ sake. You are hating the guy because of him being a Eagle, a cowboy.. that is ridiculous. Everyone, rich, poor, middle class has problems. For people to cuss the guy when he is apparently going through depression issues or what ever the case may be is class less. I had a very close family member who committed suicide because of depression and to hear people say the most insensative things I have ever heard speaks volumes of ones inteligence. If all you can do is call the guy a moron, ass, F this and F that, then dont say anything. People going through depression are not their normal selves and obviously need some sort of professional help. To be so callus towards and athlete because you dont like their antics or who they play for is stupid. I thought people here could differentiate between athletes and the real people they are off the field. I guess not.

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[quote=Mc2guy;220770]For those of you who are unwilling or unable to show any empathy for a person battling with suicidal depression (if the reports are true), then I hope from the bottom of my heart that you never have to experience depression up close and personal. As someone who has seen depression and suicide in my family, I can tell you it is the most gut wrenching and painful thing you have ever even attempted to comprehend.

T.O. is an first class jerk, no if ands or buts, but to show no empathy for another human struggling like that is pretty low. To joke about is reprehensible. Frankly, I am embarrased to be a member of this community right now.[/quote]

Thank you, we must have been typing at the same time. some people have no class to say the things i have seen. Glad someone can sympothize.

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[quote=onlydarksets;220764]To be fair, he did apologize to the Eagles once he realized that he really was expendable and that they were going to bench him for the season.[/quote]

Well, it was a pretty lame and nonspecific apology and, like you noted, it didn't come until he realized the Eagles were going to sit him. After all, the apology was so weak that the Eagles sat him anyway because he didn't comply with Andy Reid's specific instructions regarding what needed to be addressed in that apology. Personally I don't see the value of any apology that's being made at the direction of someone else, but however you view his "apology", it was anything but heartfelt.

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If I played for the Cowboys I'd be depressed too.

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[quote=PSUSkinsFan21;220775]Well, it was a pretty lame and nonspecific apology and, like you noted, it didn't come until he realized the Eagles were going to sit him. After all, the apology was so weak that the Eagles sat him anyway because he didn't comply with Andy Reid's specific instructions regarding what needed to be addressed in that apology. Personally I don't see the value of any apology that's being made at the direction of someone else, but however you view his "apology", it was anything but heartfelt.[/quote]

I was kidding - the sarcasm didn't translate well.

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Unfortunately, the players union voted to save nutcases like him for being deactivated for the season. I would say his career is over but, you always have teams like SEA who'll employ the services of likes of Koren Robinson.