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[quote=jsarno;303023]I'm sure they will have a ring eventually. But throughout history, the only good scrambling QB to win a super bowl was Steve Young. But he was one of the best qb's EVER (i think he's THE best).[/quote]

This argument says the only good scrambling QB to win a Super Bowl.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303120]Roger Staubach. Two Super Bowl Victories. SI names him the 4th best scrambling QB of all time just behind Young at #3. That's 2 super bowl wins. Elway has two wins as well and yes he is also in SI's top ten scrambling QB's of all time.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/2005/06/30/gallery.scrambling/content.1.html]SI.com - Photo Gallery - Top 10 Scrambling QBs of the Modern Era[/url][/QUOTE]


Well, SI is wrong, cause Staubach averaged only 5.52 yards per rush to Young's 5.87. Staubach had 2264 yards, and 20 tds in 131 games. Young had 4239 yards, and 43 tds in only 38 more games. They also have Staubach ahead of Vick...paaalease! Vick is likely the fastest QB ever to live.
They also named Tark the best scrambler of all time when his career average was only 5.44 and ran for 3674 yards rushing and 32 td's. Plus, his inferior numbers took him 77 MORE games. Young is better, and SI should reconsider their stats.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303126]This argument says the only good scrambling QB to win a Super Bowl.[/QUOTE]

Well, technically you are correct. But my point was a scrambling QBs with great passing stats. Something that Vick and Vince Young do not possess.

So throughout history, only Staubach, Elway and Young have put up passing numbers and could scramble. That's a small group, and great company.
I just don't see how you can say that Young is worse than a top 10 all time QB. He's number 1 in my book. My stats prove it.

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There are only two better scramblers than Young in the history of the NFL...and that's Randall Cunningham, and Michael Vick. There is absolutely no one with a better passer rating than young. He was truly amazing. A rare combination of speed, arm strength, brains, decision making ability, and accuracy. No one compares to all those.

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Here is my problem with Steve Young out of the league's all-time top 50 QB's he ranks 34th in pass attempts, 20th in completions, 21st in passing yards, and 19th in passing TD's. Also, he started for SF for 8 years and the best that he could do was 1 SB.

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[quote=jsarno;303129]Well, technically you are correct. But my point was a scrambling QBs with great passing stats. Something that Vick and Vince Young do not possess.

So throughout history, only Staubach, Elway and Young have put up passing numbers and could scramble. That's a small group, and great company.
I just don't see how you can say that Young is worse than a top 10 all time QB. He's number 1 in my book. My stats prove it.[/quote]

I've changed my mind. Steve Young is of course top ten. No way is he top five

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

Watch out for this Guy comming to a defense near you. He will never be a QB![url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQyShXYyDEM]YouTube - #1 Cornerback Recruit is a High School Quarterback[/url]

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

[QUOTE=jsarno;303130]There are only two better scramblers than Young in the history of the NFL...and that's Randall Cunningham, and Michael Vick. There is absolutely no one with a better passer rating than young. He was truly amazing. A rare combination of speed, arm strength, brains, decision making ability, and accuracy. No one compares to all those.[/QUOTE]

I would like to see what Elway could have done if he was throwing to the best WR ever to play the game. Young was good but come on it wasn't all him. Throwing to Rice didn't hurt him any.

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[quote=wilsowilso;303133]I've changed my mind. Steve Young is of course top ten. No way is he top five[/quote]

Would you agree with most complete in all facets of the position?

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303131]Here is my problem with Steve Young out of the league's all-time top 50 QB's he ranks 34th in pass attempts, 20th in completions, 21st in passing yards, and 19th in passing TD's. Also, he started for SF for 8 years and the best that he could do was 1 SB.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but you have to look at how many games he played, you can only produce huge numbers when you play a lot of games. Also, he went up against a dynasty in the Cowboys. For as much as we hate the Cowboys, they were studly in the 90's.
That 1 Super Bowl validated his career.

Don't forget, Steve Young was 24 before he was drafted by Tampa...he started much later than most QB's...this is because he stayed in school and got educated, unlike some of the morons the NFL employs now-a-days.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303133]I've changed my mind. Steve Young is of course top ten. No way is he top five[/QUOTE]

OK, I'm cool with that, but tell me, who would be the ones better than Young?

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[quote=angryssg;303137]Would you agree with most complete in all facets of the position?[/quote]

Not a chance. Young was kind of a basket case. On the sideline after his only SB victory he was running around like a little bitch asking his teamates to grab the monkey off of his back. It's a pretty silly video if you have ever watched it. His big game record was not all that. Major drawback in the complete category rankings seeing as how that is the most important part of the game. Winning under pressure.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303136]I would like to see what Elway could have done if he was throwing to the best WR ever to play the game. Young was good but come on it wasn't all him. Throwing to Rice didn't hurt him any.[/QUOTE]

Rice once said that Young was one of the best QB's of all time and helped him acheive his lofty stats, and Young helped Rice become better. So Rice himself believes that Young made him better. I don't know if that was a humble comment or not, but Young made everyone around him better.

Also, how do you explain that after Young retired, Rice had the worst back to back seasons of his career?

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

[quote=jsarno;303141]OK, I'm cool with that, but tell me, who would be the ones better than Young?[/quote]

Well I need GTripp to argue for Manning, and I have Tom Brady covered so let's add Marino who's stats dominate everyone's, Elway for his five super bowl appearances and someone like Unitas or Starr or some other greats from the past just out of respect. Montana on top of course.

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

[QUOTE=jsarno;303140]Yeah, but you have to look at how many games he played, you can only produce huge numbers when you play a lot of games. Also, he went up against a dynasty in the Cowboys. For as much as we hate the Cowboys, they were studly in the 90's.
That 1 Super Bowl validated his career.

Don't forget, Steve Young was 24 before he was drafted by Tampa...he started much later than most QB's...this is because he stayed in school and got educated, unlike some of the morons the NFL employs now-a-days.[/QUOTE]
OK, it still took him 5 years to push Montana out of town. Again, Young was a good QB just not the best. Top 5 scrambling QB's I have no problem putting him there in that category. Just not the best ever...

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[quote=wilsowilso;303144]Well I need GTripp to argue for Manning, and I have Tom Brady covered so let's add Marino who's stats dominate everyone's, Elway for his five super bowl appearances and someone like Unitas or Starr or some other greats from the past just out of respect. Montana on top of course.[/quote]

PLEASE DON'T I DON'T WANT TO STARE AT ALL CAPS ALL NIGHT OR MORNING, WHATEVER!

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

[QUOTE=jsarno;303143]Rice once said that Young was one of the best QB's of all time and helped him acheive his lofty stats, and Young helped Rice become better. So Rice himself believes that Young made him better. I don't know if that was a humble comment or not, but Young made everyone around him better.

Also, how do you explain that after Young retired, Rice had the worst back to back seasons of his career?[/QUOTE]

If you look you can clearly see a changing of the guard those 2 seasons you are speaking of. T.O. was on the 49ers and if you look at the stats you can see that T.O. was taking away balls that probably would have gone Rice's way.
Rice in 1999 had 830 yards, 12.4 y/r, with 5td's, T.O. in 1999 754 yards, 12.6 y/r, and 4 td's. Then in 2000 Rice had 805 yards, 10.7y/r, 7 td's, T.O. in 2000 1451 yards, 15 y/r, and 13 td's. So you can see that they were bringing in T.O. and pushing out Rice. Also, to say that Rice's decline those years had everything to do with Young and not the fact that he was getting old is crazy. At the time of Youngs retirement Rice had already started for 16 years. Father time was bound to catch up to him...

Re: One Of Michael Vicks Home Raided By Police
 

Alright the horse is dead, next topic.

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303142]Not a chance. Young was kind of a basket case. On the sideline after his only SB victory he was running around like a little bitch asking his teamates to grab the monkey off of his back. It's a pretty silly video if you have ever watched it. His big game record was not all that. Major drawback in the complete category ranlings seeing as how that is the most important part of the game. Winning under pressure.[/QUOTE]

WHAT? He was a 62% career post season passer, he was 9-5 (.643%) in games he played a significant part of, scored 28td's rushing and passing, and in the biggest game of his career (super bowl in 94) he threw for 325 yards and 6 (yes that's right 6) td's and no int's. (plus he ran for 49 yards)
He averaged 239 passing yards per postseason game which he played a significant part, ran for 41.07 yards per game (that's a total of 280 total yards), and had 28 total td's to only 13 int's over 14 games. That's an average of 2 td's per game, and just a hair under 1 int per game. Those are solid numbers.
Elway (for instance) played in 22 games, completion percentage of only 54.6 (that's 7.4 less than Young), averaged 226 passing yards (13 fewer than Young), 33 total tds, an average of only 1.5 to young's 2, and 21 int's (that's just a hair under 1 per game). He also averaged 21 rushing yards per game. So he averaged 247 total yards per game...that's 33 fewer yards than Young. Young was better in every catagory. Elway was 14-8 (.636%) in his postseason career. (That's .007 less than Young)
By the way, until the last 2 years of Elway's career, he was 7-8 in the postseason.

Young was one of the smartest players to ever live. And that monkey on his back was something the media placed on him and it was a show to take it off. I have to say, if I was the winning QB and MVP of a super bowl, I am going to be giddy like a little school girl.

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[quote=angryssg;303148]Alright the horse is dead, next topic.[/quote]
Nevermind.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303147]If you look you can clearly see a changing of the guard those 2 seasons you are speaking of. T.O. was on the 49ers and if you look at the stats you can see that T.O. was taking away balls that probably would have gone Rice's way.
Rice in 1999 had 830 yards, 12.4 y/r, with 5td's, T.O. in 1999 754 yards, 12.6 y/r, and 4 td's. Then in 2000 Rice had 805 yards, 10.7y/r, 7 td's, T.O. in 2000 1451 yards, 15 y/r, and 13 td's. So you can see that they were bringing in T.O. and pushing out Rice. Also, to say that Rice's decline those years had everything to do with Young and not the fact that he was getting old is crazy. At the time of Youngs retirement Rice had already started for 16 years. Father time was bound to catch up to him...[/QUOTE]

But in 01 rice caught 83 for 1139 yards, and in 02, 92 for 1211. That doesn't sound like father time had a grasp on him.

By the way, are you going to discredit Manning because he has Harrison?

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[QUOTE=wilsowilso;303144]Well I need GTripp to argue for Manning, and I have Tom Brady covered so let's add Marino who's stats dominate everyone's, Elway for his five super bowl appearances and someone like Unitas or Starr or some other greats from the past just out of respect. Montana on top of course.[/QUOTE]

Manning will be a top 5, that I have no doubt, but if he were to retire today, he's not better than Young. So I won't count him. Brady...are you kidding?
I can see why you would take Marino, he was amazing (no sb ring by the way), Elway was great, and Montana was great.
Did you know that Unitas only went to the postseason 3 times in his 18 year career. (68, 70, and 71) He only threw for 190 yards a game on average, and threw 253 career int's. Plus he had a very low 54.6 career completion percentage. No way was he better than Young.
Starr averaged only 124.8 yards passing per game in his career. Had a decent 57.4% comp percentage, but not even close to Young. AND he threw only 14 more tds' than int's in his 16 year career. (152 / 138) Starr only made the pro bowl 4 times in his career. Again, no way better than Young.

So you've only named Marino, Elway and Montana as possibly better. I could argue the point that they are not, but they are very good qb's and won't argue if they are close. This still puts Young in the top 5.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;303152]But in 01 rice caught 83 for 1139 yards, and in 02, 92 for 1211. That doesn't sound like father time had a grasp on him.

By the way, are you going to discredit Manning because he has Harrison?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you are right Rice did have two nice seasons after he left the 49ers. But that was it, what I am saying is when Young retired Rice had already started for 16 years in the NFL. Youngs retirement came at the time that Rice was on the backside of he career.

As for dicrediting Manning because of Harrison I am going to say no. Manning is a pure pocket passer, a total different QB than a scrambling QB. And I am not using Rice to discredit Young all I am saying is that it is a two way street with QB's and recievers. A good QB can make average WR's look good and good WR's and make average QB's look good. There is a give and take there.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;303154]
So you've only named Marino, Elway and Montana as possibly better. I could argue the point that they are not, but they are very good qb's and won't argue if they are close. This still puts Young in the top 5.[/QUOTE]

I would add Moon to that list. Even though he does not have a ring. Moon was a top QB. He is in the top 5 all time for attempts, completions, passing td's and yards. And a 9 time pro-bowler...

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303155]Yeah, you are right Rice did have two nice seasons after he left the 49ers. But that was it, what I am saying is when Young retired Rice had already started for 16 years in the NFL. Youngs retirement came at the time that Rice was on the backside of he career.

As for dicrediting Manning because of Harrison I am going to say no. Manning is a pure pocket passer, a total different QB than a scrambling QB. And I am not using Rice to discredit Young all I am saying is that it is a two way street with QB's and recievers. A good QB can make average WR's look good and good WR's and make average QB's look good. There is a give and take there.[/QUOTE]

I won't argue with that...I absolutely agree.
There is no one out there that can replicate Youngs accuracy (comp %), overall productivity and scrambling ability. He was truly amazing. It's a shame concussions cut his career short and that he had to be a backup for so many years.
By the way, you NEVER bench a future hall of famer for a guy that never proved himself and came from one of the worst teams of all time in Tampa. So the fact that he didn't dethrone Montana doesn't mean anything to me.

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You know, I just realized that this thread is in the wrong Forum. It should be in the parking lot. Where is Smootsmack when you need him?

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[QUOTE=jsarno;303159]I won't argue with that...I absolutely agree.
There is no one out there that can replicate Youngs accuracy (comp %), overall productivity and scrambling ability. He was truly amazing. It's a shame concussions cut his career short and that he had to be a backup for so many years.
By the way, you NEVER bench a future hall of famer for a guy that never proved himself and came from one of the worst teams of all time in Tampa. So the fact that he didn't dethrone Montana doesn't mean anything to me.[/QUOTE]

With exception of scrambling ability, I would say that Montana did.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303157]I would add Moon to that list. Even though he does not have a ring. Moon was a top QB. He is in the top 5 all time for attempts, completions, passing td's and yards. And a 9 time pro-bowler...[/QUOTE]


Wow...really? He was 3-7 in the postseason. Hey, Moon was a great QB, but he never won more than 1 post season game in any given season. His stats per season and per game is less than what Young put up...so why do you think he was better? Cause he played longer? Longevity is not a key for me.
In seasons where Moon played 10 or more games, he made the probowl 9 out of 15 seasons. 60% Very good.
In seasons where Young had 150 or more passing attempts in a season, he made the pro-bowl 7 years out of 9 seasons. 77.8% Outstanding. Big difference there.

Young scored a td every 1.63 games. That's 275 total td's in 169 games. And threw only 107 int's, that's an int every .633 games.
Moon scored a td every 1.50 games. That's 313 total td's in 208 games. And threw a whopping 233 int's. That's an int every 1.12 games. That's a huge difference. So young threw more td's (albeit slightly) but Young threw half the int's. That's HUGE.

So why is it you have something against Young...cause you seem to be grasping at straws for a better QB.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303162]With exception of scrambling ability, I would say that Montana did.[/QUOTE]


Young 64.3% comp., Montana 63.2%
Young 221.1 total YPG, Montana 219.9
Young 1.63 td per game, Montana 1.53 td per game
Young .633 int per game, Montana .724 int per game
Young 77.8% probowl, Montana 61.5% probowl (seasons of 150+ attempts)

So in every significant catagory Young wins. Of course we won't compare the scrambling since you conceded that. WHile Montana definitely had good figures, Young still wins out at each catagory. This is proof positive that Young is better.

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Young barely broke into the top 20 in the major QB stats for completion, attempts, yards and TD's. And maybe Moon did not do very well in the post season but is that really ALL him? After all football is a team sport. How about the greatest comeback in post season football, when the bills took out the oilers. Moon helped the oilers to a commanding 28-3 lead, but I guess it was his fault that the oilers d let the bills come back and win the game. Look I do think that Young is a good QB, and I even said a top 5 scrambling QB. But look at what he had to work with and look at the stats. He had the best WR ever. What did Marino, Elway, Moon, and Favre have?

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[QUOTE=jsarno;303166]Young 64.3% comp., Montana 63.2%
Young 221.1 total YPG, Montana 219.9
Young 1.63 td per game, Montana 1.53 td per game
Young .633 int per game, Montana .724 int per game
Young 77.8% probowl, Montana 61.5% probowl (seasons of 150+ attempts)

So in every significant catagory Young wins. Of course we won't compare the scrambling since you conceded that. WHile Montana definitely had good figures, Young still wins out at each catagory. This is proof positive that Young is better.[/QUOTE]
You have to consider also that Montana had played 23 games more where he had another 1242 attempts and another 742 completions and Young's completion percentage only beats him by a lowly 1.1% even after Montana had over 1000 more attempts.
1000 more attempts for Montana and Youngs YPG is better by only 1.2 yards, Youngs td/game is better by only 0.1. I am sure you see my point. And look at the numbers you are trying to argue over based on Montana's 1000 more attemps. The point is Montana had just as good as number even though he had more attempts. One would think that with more attempts the numbers should have gone down dramaticly.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303170]Young barely broke into the top 20 in the major QB stats for completion, attempts, yards and TD's. And maybe Moon did not do very well in the post season but is that really ALL him? After all football is a team sport. How about the greatest comeback in post season football, when the bills took out the oilers. Moon helped the oilers to a commanding 28-3 lead, but I guess it was his fault that the oilers d let the bills come back and win the game. Look I do think that Young is a good QB, and I even said a top 5 scrambling QB. But look at what he had to work with and look at the stats. He had the best WR ever. What did Marino, Elway, Moon, and Favre have?[/QUOTE]

Your logic is going round and round. You used rings to describe good qbs a few pages back, now you are saying it shouldn't matter. I understand it's a team sport.
Marino had some good overall teams. Elway had a freakin 2000 yard rusher, and Favre has had some great teams as well...some great WR's and Green was an amazing back for him.
All I'm asking is to give me 5 better QB's than him...you have provided a possible 3. (I say possible cause I can disprove that they are better, the stats show Young was the best ever) Young is not going to be in the top for completions, attempts, yards, and passing td's cause he didn't play nearly as long as the others. That has something to do with the fact that he started later, and ended a little early due to injury, and part to do that he was behind one of the all time great qb's in Montana.
I judge a great QB by his passer rating (young is #1 all time) and completion%, (young is #1 all time), and his TD to Int ratio. I don't know where he ranks all time, but I've shown he beats everyone you've thrown up so far.
Vinny Testeverde is not even close to a top 30 all time qb, yet he's 6th in pass attempts, 6th in completions, 6th in passing yards, and 9th in passing td's. The man threw for 56.6% comp, and a td to int ratio of 270 to 261. That's horrible. Obviously what I used as a measuring stick is more accurate than what you use. By your logic, Vinny is an all time great QB, and he's not.

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[QUOTE=Redskins8588;303176]You have to consider also that Montana had played 23 games more where he had another 1242 attempts and another 742 completions and Young's completion percentage only beats him by a lowly 1.1% even after Montana had over 1000 more attempts.
1000 more attempts for Montana and Youngs YPG is better by only 1.2 yards, Youngs td/game is better by only 0.1. I am sure you see my point. And look at the numbers you are trying to argue over based on Montana's 1000 more attemps. The point is Montana had just as good as number even though he had more attempts. One would think that with more attempts the numbers should have gone down dramaticly.[/QUOTE]

Why? It's the average that counts. That doesn't make any sense. You count the averages, so no matter if they have 5000 more attempts, we are measuring what they did with those attempts. Young was at the top of his game when he was forced to retire due to concussions...so it's reasonable to beleive that Young would have produced better numbers, not worse. But that is all speculation.
Take those 1000 attempts away, and those numbers are still accurate.

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[QUOTE=jsarno;303177]Vinny Testeverde is not even close to a top 30 all time qb, yet he's 6th in pass attempts, 6th in completions, 6th in passing yards, and 9th in passing td's. The man threw for 56.6% comp, and a td to int ratio of 270 to 261. That's horrible. Obviously what I used as a measuring stick is more accurate than what you use. By your logic, Vinny is an all time great QB, and he's not.[/QUOTE]

No, by my logic Vinny isnt an all time great. He never accomplished anything ever. And I wasnt the one that pused ring aside, I believe you were. [B]"I can see why you would take Marino, he was amazing (no sb ring by the way)," [/B] Going off of your statement I throughout Moons name. If you were willing to accept Marino because of his amazing stats and no ring, I figured Moon too fit that bill. Oh and Moon is in the Hall of Fame, so I must not be the only one to think that he was one of the great QB's to play the game.

Elway did have a 2000 yard rusher when the Denver Broncos won their SB. But what did he have the first 3 times that he lost the SB? And what does Ahman Green have to do with Favre and his stats? Green only played with Favre for 6 season out of Favre's 15 seasons.

Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

60 dogs found in his house, many malnourished, injured and scarred. He wasn't living at the house, a friend of his was living there. But still, associating with anyone involved in dog fighting makes you a low life. There's a lot of things in this world I can take, but when you start messing around with dogs, that really fires me up. I love dogs.

[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/04/26/bc.fbn.vickinvestigatio.ap/index.html]SI.com - NFL - Drug probe leads to Vick property, discovery of ailing dogs - Thursday April 26, 2007 6:06PM[/url]

:madani:

Re: Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

If it's at his house he's definitely responsible for what's going on there, whether he's living there or not. Pretty disgraceful the way these animals were treated.

Re: Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

A woman called into the radio station this morning (so take this with a grain of salt because it isn't the most reliable source) and said that she had some run-ins with Vick back in the day when she was visiting friends at VT.
Interestingly enough, she said that one night they were in her friend's room when they heard dogs fighting outside. She said they went to check it out and found Vick and others forcing pit bulls to fight in a parking lot.

Like I said, this isn't the most reliable source for a story, but at this point I wouldn't put it past him.

Re: Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

Like I said in another thread, I don't even need to read that article to know they were pit bulls.

RAP LIFE FOREVA!

Re: Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

While the dog fighting is news......Vick being a low life piece of sh!t is not. I've never liked this guy (or his useless brother).

Re: Michael Vick is a Low-Life Piece of S
 

Yep, he's now more of a scumbag than I thought.

Lock this piece of trash up.