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The Zimmermans 09-04-2007 03:27 PM

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AFC is great, AFC east........mediocre

TheMalcolmConnection 09-04-2007 03:28 PM

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You honestly are saying that because your team is an AFC team that they can beat any NFC team? :doh:

hypocritex 09-04-2007 03:30 PM

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[QUOTE=SevenCity;346999]Let me take this slow for you Redskin fans. One of the weakest teams in the AFC (Miami)....played at the home of the BEST team in the NFC (Chicago)....and had an easy time! The Redskins are an average NFC team at best. The best football is played in the AFC. AFC Team vs NFC Team. Put your money on the *AFC* every single time!.......If you doubt that, Just ask a BEARS fan.[/QUOTE]

That doesnt mean anything though. You know how Miami is.. They show up and beat the best teams and lose to the lesser teams.

70Chip 09-04-2007 03:30 PM

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[quote=SevenCity;346999]Let me take this slow for you Redskin fans. One of the weakest teams in the AFC (Miami)....played at the home of the BEST team in the NFC (Chicago)....and had an easy time! The Redskins are an average NFC team at best. The best football is played in the AFC. AFC Team vs NFC Team. Put your money on the *AFC* every single time!.......If you doubt that, Just ask a BEARS fan.[/quote]


The better football is played in the AFC, but not by the Dolphins. You don't get credit for what the Colts do. If the Dolphins show up with a team that is as weak as your argument, God help them.

Now back to the side alleys of South Beach with you...

Southpaw 09-04-2007 03:31 PM

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[quote=SevenCity;346999]Let me take this slow for you Redskin fans. One of the weakest teams in the AFC (Miami)....played at the home of the BEST team in the NFC (Chicago)....and had an easy time! The Redskins are an average NFC team at best. The best football is played in the AFC. AFC Team vs NFC Team. Put your money on the *AFC* every single time!.......If you doubt that, Just ask a BEARS fan.[/quote]


:laughing2 Hahahaha... That's the best football logic I've ever heard! It's even better than this gem from Balki Bartokomous:

Bills over the Chargers because even though you can charge and charge, sooner or later, you'll have to pay the bill.

Big Dave 09-04-2007 03:31 PM

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Even though I predicted a Redskins win, anything can happen. Ask Michigan. Anyways, I just PMed Matty and asked him to a Signature bet. The loser has to wear the other team's signature that is created for him at both sites until next Sunday's game. Don't be surprised to see Matty wearing a Dolphins signature ... maybe one of Csonka running over a pile of Redskins;)

jgalecpa 09-04-2007 03:32 PM

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[quote=Mr.Anderson;346996]Well I was referring to sheep skin condoms because I didnt read your policy on nastyness lol but foreskinz is funnier <-- ROFLMAO

REDFORESKINZ!!
[/quote]


Now that joke makes sense!

Good one. {Being in academia, I could only think of sheepskin = diploma = overthinking things}


My Prediction:
[INDENT][B]Skins 17, Fins 6.[/B][/INDENT]Offene struggles to get it together a bit, but D is awesome, holding them to two FG's, AND scoring a Defensive touchdown.

Also: Sean Taylor will allow at least one big play or penalty.

Just my opinion, but you know what they say about opinions....

Joe Ribbs BBQ 09-04-2007 03:35 PM

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Sevencity..... go away

you are making your fellow fans (who actually have rational thoughts) look bad.... is there an ignore button anywhere

hypocritex 09-04-2007 03:36 PM

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BTW if you guys want to continue this conversation you can come over to our FRN network website.. Well.. It's Big Dave's site.

[url=http://www.phinfever.com/forums]Phinfever :: Index[/url] Feel free to bring the trash talk to us! Just try to be nice.. lol

T-ROCK™ 09-04-2007 03:39 PM

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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;346909]Skins 31 Dolphins 10. This will be the easiest game on the schedule after the deuce with the Gmen. In preseason, our first string O was nice and fluid, and the Dolphins D is not top 10 in my opinion. Our first D is better than the Dolphins D and will shut down the struggling Miami O. If this game is close like most of the above posters predict it is going to be a mediocre season. Skins should win by at least 14 points if they are that improved over last season. Dolphins are weak.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE][B]Dolphins D is not top 10 in my opinion. Our first D is better than the Dolphins D[/B][/QUOTE]

Are you friggin' kidding??? Your D is better than Miami's??? Dude, put down the chronic and get real... Say your Offense is better, your Special teams is better, or anything else... But please tell me you don't believe that...

On what planet does anyone ring up the Dolphins defense for 31 points???

I keep reading these "defensive battle" posts and it's laughable... The Redskins D was in the bottom half of the league last season with no reason to suspect it will be a lot better... Our front 7 is arguably one of, if not THE, best in the league...

Here's to a good game (a Dolphins Victory) and no injuries on either side...

Joe Ribbs BBQ 09-04-2007 03:45 PM

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T-Rock, thanks for your 1st post, I expect to see you back on this forum, win or lose, I have a feeling you are in for a rude awakening

MTK 09-04-2007 03:46 PM

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We have good reason to expect our D to bounce back strong. The additions of Fletcher and Landry fill gaping holes from last year, and guys that were banged up along the defensive line are now healthy and our two rookie DTs from last year have a year under their belts.

If you're underestimating the Skins D you'll be very sorry come Sunday.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-04-2007 03:48 PM

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[quote=T-ROCK™;347012] I keep reading these "defensive battle" posts and it's laughable... The Redskins D was in the bottom half of the league last season with no reason to suspect it will be a lot better... Our front 7 is arguably one of, if not THE, best in the league...[/quote]

Since you don't actively follow the Redskins, I'll let this slide. Our defense was number three in 2004 and somewhere in the top ten the next year (I forget where we ranked). In 2006 we had a NUMBER of defensive starters go down with injury. Shawn Springs was arguably the best coverage player the Skins have on defense. He's back fully healthy, with a better safety duo than the Skins have had since that 2004 season as well as better LB play including Fletcher and McIntosh.

If you look a player or two down on the list of "tackle leaders" you'll see that Fletcher is on there too.

Again, why won't this be a defensive battle?

BrudLee 09-04-2007 03:49 PM

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I see issues for the Phins. Their O-line wasn't [I]great[/I] last year (allowing 41 sacks), and they didn't make any measurable changes to their personnel. Despite the fact that the O-line coach has the coolest name in the NFL (Hudson Houck), you can't polish a turd.
I also think Cam Cameron is going to seem a lot less smart when he downgrades from Rivers, Tomlinson, and Gates to Green, Brown, and Martin.
The defense made a major acquisition in Joey Porter, but most observers agree that they overpaid for a declining talent. The fact that Porter has been recovering from a knee surgery when the Dolphins physical didn't detect a bad knee should be something of a red flag.
Miami may turn out to be a good team. I expect we'll know around week 6, but they're going to get punched in the mouth on Sunday.

Washington 27
Miami 10

TheMalcolmConnection 09-04-2007 03:49 PM

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Even if the Skins defense is as bad as you say it is. Can you honestly tell me that your offense would put up thirty plus points on them even in LAST year's shape?!

RobH4413 09-04-2007 03:49 PM

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[quote=hypocritex;346998]
BTW: For those of you complaining how we show up before the game to talk crap. I am just having some FRIENDLY discussion first of all. Secondly.. Your website is part of the [B]FRN Network[/B]. And so is ours. Thats how we found this site. We go to other teams sites all the time.. And they come to ours. It is really a good way to tell what kind of fans a team has. And I will say this.. I may dislike the Skins and they may not be alot of things.. But skins fans are die hard! Gotta love that![/quote]

We welcome any fans from any teams as long as they're rational and have a point.

Personally, I love the smack talking before a match up, and I think it adds to the excitement of the game. This is what the NFL is about. Don't feel bullied, but expect fire and brimstone if you don't back up your opinion with facts. That's just how we roll.

70Chip 09-04-2007 03:49 PM

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Check out Mr. Cooke out among the peasants - beautiful.

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GTripp0012 09-04-2007 03:51 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;347017]We have good reason to expect our D to bounce back strong. The additions of Fletcher and Landry fill gaping holes from last year, and guys that were banged up along the defensive line are now healthy and our two rookie DTs from last year have a year under their belts.

If you're underestimating the Skins D you'll be very sorry come Sunday.[/quote]I don't expect our defense to come back strong, per say. However, its safe to say that if the Dolphins "offense" is planning on coming into our house and just having their way with us, they really have another thing coming.

Last year, teams could throw anywhere on the field against us and have great success. This year you have to gameplan the Skins very differently. If teams want to have success against us, they will have to attack the middle of the field with the running game, and use their running back well in the passing game. Miami has the personel to do this, but if it takes them a while to get going offensively, they may be chasing 14 very quickly.

The Dolphins D, which has been so good for so long, I think is going to struggle mightily against the pass this year. Campbell jumps right out and throws two first half TDs, and then the Skins D bends as the Dolphins play catch up (with some success), but it never really materalizes.

20-16 Redskins.

hypocritex 09-04-2007 03:52 PM

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[QUOTE=T-ROCK™;347012]Are you friggin' kidding??? Your D is better than Miami's??? Dude, put down the chronic and get real... Say your Offense is better, your Special teams is better, or anything else... But please tell me you don't believe that...

On what planet does anyone ring up the Dolphins defense for 31 points???

I keep reading these "defensive battle" posts and it's laughable... The Redskins D was in the bottom half of the league last season with no reason to suspect it will be a lot better... Our front 7 is arguably one of, if not THE, best in the league...

Here's to a good game (a Dolphins Victory) and no injuries on either side...[/QUOTE]

Have to agree with you about our front 7. With names like Jason Taylor, Keith Traylor, Zach Thomas,Vonnie Holliday, Joey Porter, and the two up and coming youngsters Channing Crowder and Matt Roth.

Btw.. The last team to score over 30 points on us was Green Bay.. Last year. They were the only team to score that many on us last year.. I also suspect our D will be even better this year with the infusion of youth and skill in Matt Roth and Crowder coming into his 3rd year looking for another 100+ tackle year. Not to mention the addition of Joey Porter. Plus this is the 3rd year in the system in which the majority of the guys have been in for those 3 years. Now is when everything completely comes together. I will go out on a limb and say Miami will finish with a top 3 D this year.

12thMan 09-04-2007 03:52 PM

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I love this! This banter beats any political thread any day of the week!

Mr.Anderson 09-04-2007 03:54 PM

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{Being in academia, I could only think of sheepskin = diploma = overthinking things}

LMAO thats great!

We should be able to run the ball if Sean decides to keep the mucus distribution down to a minimal.He seems to like to spit in the face of the opposing players or has been know too hasnt he lol.

J/K guys

If he gives up any pass play that will be the difference in the game,
Again we really havent gotten to see what our offense is truely capable or not capable of.

We do know that we have been in La La land for a few years and have managed to win games with the few core players we have and a vanilla Offense, so this is where our hopes are up for scoring points.
We know our recievers are more capable than what the are known for and sadly Trent Green is a hopeful upgrade or at least a better leader than we are use to having.

IMO our O-Line wont be wonderful but they should be able to hold their own, again until the blitzing starts.

Your Secondary will definitely be our biggest concern.

I really hope Sean Taylor doesnt spit on Ronnie B..

gortiz 09-04-2007 04:04 PM

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16-14 redskins win a close, tough battle. One of miami's TD's will come from yet another TD given to the defense from our offense, but, but it is the offense that plays some crazy ball control in the 4th Q to get two nice Suisham FG's to cap off nice drives.

Campbell 15-28, 230 yards 1 TD 1 INT
CP - 20 carries 75 yards
LB - 10 carries for 40 yards

Laron gets a pick, K-Goldston gets a sack, London gets 12 solo tackles, Rocky gets a pick

Mr.Anderson 09-04-2007 04:07 PM

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Miami Gave up 21 of those sacks in the first 3 weeks last year behind Dante DR.Pepper, he isnt here anymore. they did much better not having to block for three minutes while Dr Pepper tried to find his targets.

Joe Ribbs BBQ 09-04-2007 04:09 PM

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[QUOTE=gortiz;347032]16-14 redskins win a close, tough battle. One of miami's TD's will come from yet another TD given to the defense from our offense, but, but it is the offense that plays some crazy ball control in the 4th Q to get two nice Suisham FG's to cap off nice drives.

Campbell 15-28, 230 yards 1 TD 1 INT
CP - 20 carries 75 yards
LB - 10 carries for 40 yards

Laron gets a pick, K-Goldston gets a sack, London gets 12 solo tackles, Rocky gets a pick[/QUOTE]

now that is an interesting game

jamf 09-04-2007 04:10 PM

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[QUOTE=Mr.Anderson;347029]

I really hope Sean Taylor doesnt spit on Ronnie B..[/QUOTE]

What's the latest on ROnnie Brown?
I heard he was in the dog house...

NoviSkins 09-04-2007 04:15 PM

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Skins: 20
Phins: 7

Jamaican'Skin 09-04-2007 04:18 PM

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I feel like the Redskins D is gonna come out with a huge chip on their shoulders. The passing and running game are gonna be shut down. The offense looked fluid in the game against J- ville. Granted, it was the preseason, but I just felt like it was a sign of things to come. I think the Dolphins D is going to have a hard time stopping the play action, and S. Moss is gonna burn up the secondary.

24- 3 Redskins

hypocritex 09-04-2007 04:20 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;347037]What's the latest on ROnnie Brown?
I heard he was in the dog house...[/QUOTE]

Our coach felt like because our O line was so terrible last year that Ronnie Brown needed to be motivated by doing kick returns??? Yeah.. I don't know whats up with that.. And furthermore.. I don't think that Ronnie needs any motivation. He has been working hard all camp.. He always works hard.. Last year we had no line AND Mularkey thought it was fun to throw it with Joey Harrington 60 times a game.

FinNasty 09-04-2007 04:21 PM

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[QUOTE=Jamaican'Skin;347042]I feel like the Redskins D is gonna come out with a huge chip on their shoulders. The passing and running game are gonna be shut down. The offense looked fluid in the game against J- ville. Granted, it was the preseason, but I just felt like it was a sign of things to come. I think the Dolphins D is going to have a hard time stopping the play action, and S. Moss is gonna burn up the secondary.

24- 3 Redskins[/QUOTE]

Whats going on Skin Fans? Not to worry... I come in peace... ;)

I cant say that I agree with your score. Not that I am guarenteeing a win, but I am guarenteeing that it will be a low scoring game. Both of our offenses are going to struggle against each others defenses. I'm predicting a low scoring 10-13 game.

Who gets the 13? Well the Fin fan in me is going to have to take the Fins... :D

mike9520 09-04-2007 04:24 PM

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I am not optimistic about this guys. I think the offense will need this game and a few weeks of practice to get in sync. I think this is a week one upset

Redskins 13
Dolphins16

I will not be optimistic until the skins can give me a reason to be. The defense i have faith in, but the offense has shown me nothing. I am tired of setting myself up to fail with great offseason expectations

12thMan 09-04-2007 04:28 PM

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[quote=mike9520;347049]I am not optimistic about this guys. I think the offense will need this game and a few weeks of practice to get in sync. I think this is a week one upset

Redskins 13
Dolphins16

I will not be optimistic until the skins can give me a reason to be. The defense i have faith in, but the offense has shown me nothing. I am tired of setting myself up to fail with great offseason expectations[/quote]

I gotta tellya, Mike, this team and last year's are almost like apples and oranges, in my opinion.

If we don't come out and hit these guys in the mouth, then between the eyes for four straight quarters, I have a feeling morale could plummet prematurely.

The Skins should man handle this Dolphins team. No doubt in my mind.

Mr.Anderson 09-04-2007 04:30 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;347037]What's the latest on ROnnie Brown?
I heard he was in the dog house...[/QUOTE]

He is kinda because our line stunk or Mularky under used him.
The guy really is good when he gets into rythm but he doesnt get that chance very often.
Jesse Chatman did a few things in the preseason and people are calling for Ronnies head now, some of us feel like it was a motivator for Ronnie to hit the hole quicker, he likes to act like a finesse runner when he isnt he is a bull dog that needs to make a hole if there isnt one.

I think he is a great running back and gets to reunite with Cambell Sunday since they were on that undefeated Auburn Team together.

FinNasty 09-04-2007 04:31 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;347052]I gotta tellya, Mike, this team and last year's are almost like apples and oranges, in my opinion.

If we don't come out and hit these guys in the mouth, then between the eyes for four straight quarters, I have a feeling morale could plummet prematurely.

The Skins should man handle this Dolphins team. No doubt in my mind.[/QUOTE]

So you think you are going to man handle us in all areas of the game? I believe you are going to pound our offense... but you think your offense is going to man handle our defense??? Not happening...

12thMan 09-04-2007 04:33 PM

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[quote=FinNasty;347057]So you think you are going to man handle us in all areas of the game? I believe you are going to pound our offense... but you think your offense is going to man handle our defense??? Not happening...[/quote]

Friendly wager?

FinNasty 09-04-2007 04:35 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;347059]Friendly wager?[/QUOTE]

Absolutly...

Also, how do you see your offense man handling our defense? I'm looking for specifics...

Toast20622 09-04-2007 04:35 PM

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Redskins 38 Dolphins 10
Offense:
Campbell 18-25 365 yds 3 TD, 0 INT
Randell El 3 receptions 45 yards, 1 pass 30 yards
Cooley 6 Receptions, 110 yds, 1 TD
Portis 25 Carries, 102 yds, 3 receptions, 25 yards, 1 TD
Moss 3 receptions 105 yds, 1 TD
Lloyd 5 receptions, 75 yards 1 TD
Betts 10 Carries, 65 yds
Sellers 3 carries, 11 yards, 1 TD
Suisham 5 x-pts,1 FG

Defense: (only 3 FG's allowed, Rushing yards allowed- 185, passing yards allowed 220)
A. Carter 2 sacks
L Landry 1 sack, 1 fumble recovery
L. Fletcher 1 INT
C. Rogers 1 INT
S. Taylor 1 fumble recovery

12thMan 09-04-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
[quote=FinNasty;347060]Absolutly...

Also, how do you see your offense man handling our defense? I'm looking for specifics...[/quote]

I say we rush for a buck-fifty...

mike9520 09-04-2007 04:36 PM

Re: Redskins vs. Dolphins predictions
 
[QUOTE=12thMan;347052]I gotta tellya, Mike, this team and last year's are almost like apples and oranges, in my opinion.

If we don't come out and hit these guys in the mouth, then between the eyes for four straight quarters, I have a feeling morale could plummet prematurely.

The Skins should man handle this Dolphins team. No doubt in my mind.[/QUOTE]

I agree if this is a loss then morale will plumet within the organization and outside. I hoping the 2nd yr in this offense is the biggest variable that seperates this team from last years, but only time will tell. The offense starters are essentially the same, so if they struggle is it a reflection of the type of players they have?

FinNasty 09-04-2007 04:37 PM

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[QUOTE=Toast20622;347061]Redskins 38 Dolphins 10
Offense:
Campbell 18-25 365 yds 3 TD, 0 INT
Cooley 6 Receptions, 110 yds, 1 TD
Portis 25 Carries, 102 yds 1 TD
Moss 3 receptions 105 yds, 1 TD
Lloyd 5 receptions, 75 yards 1 TD
Betts 10 Carries, 65 yds
Sellers 3 carries, 11 yards, 1 TD
Suisham 5 x-pts,1 FG

Defense: (only 3 FG's allowed, Rushing yards allowed- 185, passing yardsallowed 220)
A. Carter 2 sacks
L Landry 1 sack, 1 fumble recovery
L. Fletcher 1 INT
C. Rogers 1 INT
S. Taylor 1 fumble recovery[/QUOTE]

Do you really believe that you can put up those offensive statistics against our defense? You do realize that we had the #4 defense in the league last year... and have made IMPROVEMENTS to it?

FinNasty 09-04-2007 04:38 PM

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[QUOTE=12thMan;347062]I say we rush for a buck-fifty...[/QUOTE]

Doubt it. We were 8th in rushing yards allowed per game... and 5th in ypc...


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