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Greg Williams is more aggressive than Joe Gibbs, which is what I would like to see. Make Greg the Head coach and keep Saunders. They run both the Offense and the Defense anyway. Joe has just been a supervisor for 2 years. It still stinks though!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;404209]GW is another Richie Petitbone. They need Cam Cameron and offensive mind, forget about what happened in Miami.[/quote]

Would it be correct to assume that you're actually serious?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;404145]I just hope this doesn't set Jason Campbell back. A new head coach likely means a new OC, unless we hire Gregg Williams and he keeps Saunders.

And I thought this would be another slow work day...[/quote]

Patrick Ramsey, anyone?

Not to reopen that debate, but he was another coach's young QB as well. Hopefully JC gets support next year to continue to develop.

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DAMN IT!!! I was hoping he would at least stay as president!!! DAMN IT JOE!!!

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[QUOTE=Monksdown;404219]For what we are likely to pay for whoever it is, i would like him to have a winning record as a HC in this league, with a long track record. So Cowher or Schotti.[/QUOTE]

Forget Schotti. He's not coming back here again. He'd be foolish to do so.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;404144]It was time for Joe to step down, but I was hoping that he would stay on as President though. I'm said for that because the man knows football even though coaching is over his head. Like Parcells stated earlier this (coaching) is a young man's game. I just hope that we keep Williams or Saunders as HC. I do not want some college coach to come in and changed things in this organization. We need some continuity. I'm hearing that Synder might be tempted to contact Pete Carroll or some high profile name. This would be a huge mistake. ONCE AGAIN, YOU CAN NOT BLAME HIM, HE CAN NOT COACH FOREVER!![/quote]

I agree - I thought he would stick around in the front office. I'm disappointed he is leaving. I think this could be a huge blow.

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[QUOTE=Hog1;404139]Greg? Cowher??? Pete Carroll???[/QUOTE]

Pete Carroll aint goin no where!

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I actually feel a little bit better about this now that the prospect of GW taking over as head coach and Saunders staying on as OC. That really wouldn't be a bad combo at all if Snyder can pull it off.

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[quote=saden1;404223]Would it be correct to assume that you're actually serious?[/quote]

LOL yeah just forget about that 1-15

:doh:

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;404206]What about Russ Grimm??[/QUOTE]

This is a team that has turned things around...they are not far from being a consistant playoff team. Hiring someone from outside with assure 2 things...

Greg Williams will leave to be a Head Coach elsewhere.
Al Saunders will leave too.

Both of those are bad....very bad.

I say, 90% Greg Williams will be our new coach and Saunders will stay.
Our owner aint that stupid to risk losing that much coaching talent.

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[quote=Mattyk72;404233]LOL yeah just forget about that 1-15

:doh:[/quote]

Pete Carroll's name was dropped too :doh:

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I just don't know how or why Cam Cammeron's name could be breathed out of someone's mouth right now. And haven't we had our fill of college coaches in the NFL?

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ohhhhhhhh no, i just read about coach gibbs, this really blows i really thought he would return with the mindset of lets finish what we started. sad sad day

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I don't understand it either! GW is the likely choice to keep some similance of continuity.

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This sucks...

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Yeah someone from the outside pretty much seals the deal we would have a totally new staff.

I don't see us going in that direction. Williams takes over, Blache is the new official DC, and perhaps some other key guys stay as well. Minimal changes to the staff = minimal changes across the board and roster. That's definitely a good thing.

But honestly, I'm still in shock over Gibbs stepping down and I didn't see it coming at all, so I guess anything is possible at this point.

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Speachless

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i can't say I am sad that he is leaving. I have thought during the season that this wasn't working. if any good comes out of him being here, it will be the attitudes of the players, the team becoming a family, and showing Danny that charachter guys are more important to a winning franchise than a bunch of over priced pre-madonnas.
hopefully Greg will be names the head coach. I dont see him staying around if he isnt. He will be a person of interest for a few teams out there, and hopefully we can persuade Al that he should stay as OC. the stability of the franchise is very important. the guys on this team have really come together and started to gel towards the end of the year. if they go outside the organization it will bring new coaches, new schemes and new philosophies, which I dont think is good for this team. Greg has become a better "people" person under Gibbs than he was in Buffalo, and the players really seem to play hard for him, even when you would think they would give up after those losing streaks.

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Please please stay away from college coaches.

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Whatever they do, they need to nip in the bud very quickly. The last thing these guys need during the offseason is another distraction. They really need to get away and reflect, not think about who the next head coach is.

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[quote=skinsnut;404234]This is a team that has turned things around...they are not far from being a consistant playoff team. Hiring someone from outside with assure 2 things...

Greg Williams will leave to be a Head Coach elsewhere.
Al Saunders will leave too.

Both of those are bad....very bad.

I say, 90% Greg Williams will be our new coach and Saunders will stay.
Our owner aint that stupid to risk losing that much coaching talent.[/quote]

No, but he is THAT greedy

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I saw it in his eyes in that presser last night! Greg Williams will take over, mark my word! He cut a back end deal with Snyder two years ago to be the successor. Its a sad day, but I feel good about Greg.

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Well, at least there is one benefit.

New coaches get an extra mini-camp.

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[quote=scowan;404222]Greg Williams is more aggressive than Joe Gibbs, which is what I would like to see. Make Greg the Head coach and keep Saunders. They run both the Offense and the Defense anyway. Joe has just been a supervisor for 2 years. It still stinks though![/quote]

This is exactly 100% correct. As much as I love Joe Gibbs the man, he is just too conservative for today's NFL IMO. GW and AS would make a nice 1-2 combo. I hope things stay in house.

People also need to realize that the man is 67 years old. With the death of ST, I bet that it really made him realize that he needs to be with his family at this point of his life. His grandchild is sick with cancer, he's away from his wife/children and he has nothing to prove. I'm happy for Joe.

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What about a new team president?
If we don't hire someone else will all the personnel decisions fall on the shoulders of Danny and Vinny, with the new HC making some suggestions here and there?
That's a thought that scares the hell out of me.

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[quote=Daseal;404176]Yeah Hogtimus, it was M&M speculating. I [B]HATE[/B] that move.

Freddy: this is interesting -- Mort said there is no such clause in GWill's contract.[/quote]

No, he said there IS a clause in his contract. And If anyone thinks Pete Carroll should be considered, you need serious medication.

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Well none of us saw this coming. The fact that he won't be back anything but a small capacity is even more surprising. Hopefully we'll get a GM so no one will ever say we need a GM ever again.

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After i heard the press conference yesterday i got that feeling...I had a dream last night GW was the new head coach of the skins.

I wish JG would have stayed for 1 more year. If not JG i'd like to see GW.

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[quote=SkinEmAll;404256]No, he said there IS a clause in his contract. And If anyone thinks Pete Carroll should be considered, you need serious medication.[/quote]

He initially reported that there was a clause, but he immediately called back after talking to an official in the Redskins organization and said that there was no such clause.

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[quote=djnemo65;404257]Well none of us saw this coming. The fact that he won't be back anything but a small capacity is even more surprising. Hopefully we'll get a GM so no one will ever say we need a GM ever again.[/quote]

That depends on whom the GM may or may not be!

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The first time Joe Gibbs retired, my wife came home and saw me on the floor in my Redskins Room decked out in my Skins gear....Hail to the Redskins was playing and I had 3 candles burning....one for each Superbowl victory.....she asked.....
Who died? I responded, "Joe Gibbs just retired"

I knew what was over and what was coming....but 1 playoff win in the next 12 years....yikes.

For some reason, though slightly shocked, I don't have that same feeling...perhaps its because I'm 40 now and not a complete psycho, or....
it could be because the team was well prepared for his eventual departure.
It just seems a year too soon.

Joe,
Thanks for being such a good influence on the Redskins organization and fans everywhere!!
[B]You will be missed much more than how many wins you produced[/B]

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[QUOTE=12thMan;404236]I just don't know how or why Cam Cammeron's name could be breathed out of someone's mouth right now. And haven't we had our fill of college coaches in the NFL?[/QUOTE]

I think people are drinking way to early in the morning. You should wait until at least 10 or 11.

Let's review folks:

Steve Spurrier
Cam Cameron
Bobby Petrino
Nick Saban
Butch Davis
Rich Brooks
Dennis Erickson
Tommy Prothro
Lou Holtz
Bud Wilkinson
Dick MacPherson
Darryl Rogers
Frank Kush
Pete Carroll
Al Groh

The list probably goes on. All college coaches who failed at the professional level.

Jimmy Johnson and Dick Vermiel are the exceptions, not the rule.

Why anyone would suggest that we not only get a college coach, but that we get a college coach who has already PROVEN to be horrific at the professional level is beyond me.

I sure hope somebody was joking. :doh:

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Crap damn ugh ahhhhhhhhh

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Down day for the Skins, but Coach Joe leaves us waaaaay better than he found us. Promote from within and let a new day dawn!

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I'm a bit surprised, but not shocked. I thought Gibbs would stay for his 5 year term and then move upstairs as GM/President. After this year, the fact he is 67 and has some health issues I'm sure this is best for him and his family. He's given us so much as fans througout his time in DC. I'll miss him and always be a great fan of his.

I think in the news conference this PM or later this week, GW will be announced as the head coach and Saunders will stay on as OC. I know I have been critical of GW, but from the Bears game on I was glad to see him return to his aggressive defensive philosophy and scrap that Cover 2 defense. If Gibbs won't be doing the GM job then we DEFINITELY must hire a GM. I could see this being set-up as the same organizational structure as when Gibbs, Bethard and JKC were here. If GW and the new GM disagree on an issue they bring it to the Danny who will then consult with Gibbs and make final decisions.

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[QUOTE=skinsnut;404266]The first time Joe Gibbs retired, my wife came home and saw me on the floor in my Redskins Room decked out in my Skins gear....Hail to the Redskins was playing and I had 3 candles burning....one for each Superbowl victory[/QUOTE]

Wow. That's...pretty weird dude.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;404252]Well, at least there is one benefit.

New coaches get an extra mini-camp.[/QUOTE]

That's stretching for a silver lining.

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[quote=chrisl4064;404148]tough emotional year, a lot to handle in one season. thanks for everything joe[/quote]

Agreed.

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[quote=mheisig;404274]Wow. That's...pretty weird dude.[/quote]

Hence the screen name, skins[B]nut.

:D
[/B]

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[QUOTE=J. Spanky;404160]my 2 cents:

a little disappointed but i think it was time....

i hope gregg will take over

i hope al stays to run the offense (although i don't think [I]both[/I] these things happening is realistic)

i hope kirk olividotti (linebacker coach) will at least be considered to take over the defense

i hope campbell is still the man![/QUOTE]

pretty much my sentiments,it would probably be better for williams to take over as head coach so long as he just coaches defense and leaves saunders alone,if williams is going to be like jeff fisher and reel in the offense then i'd rather see saunders get the gig.Dont know if the team would react well to a new coach outside of the organization,at least for now