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[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;502590]A loss to Baltimore, but you have us beating the Giants? Gmen are a complete team and defensively just as impressive as the Ravens statistically, if not better. If we lost to the Boys at Fedex, do you really think we will beat the Gmen? Fedex isn't RFK. It is almost as bad as the Pontiac Silverdome or Ford Field. [B]Anyone can win there!!!!!![/[/B]QUOTE]

Including us. Do you really think the best team wins all the time? I have'nt seen your picks yet Gus. Do you have us winning ANY games?

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[quote=mredskins;502024]Must win 12/7 game against Ravens, if you are a Skins fan living in the B-more area you know waht I mean. This is more important then the playoffs.[/quote]

only to the raven's fans. i could care less.

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[quote=Buster;502461]Don't count out our guys against the Giants. It's Sean's day and they'll be playing with a lot of emotion.

Remember when Wellington Mara died and the inferior (at that time) Giants team crushed us 35-0?

Sean Taylor could carry them to a win. He meant much more than an owner may have, he was on the field with them.[/quote]

Just like the Giants stepped it up (all over us) after the death of Wellington Mara.

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We don't stand a chance against the Giants. They will destroy us.

I had a better feeling going into the New England game last year.

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I believe 9-7 will make the playoffs as a wildcard. You have to look at schedules of all the the other teams that teams that have a 5-4-1 record or above. The teams that are going to win the division are the Giants, Carolina, Zona, and GB/Chicago. I feel the wild card teams are going to be the Bucs and us. We will have to get to 9 wins to make the playoffs, but I feel we will be able to take atleast three of those games.

I hate doing this every season, but with Zorn in his first year and Campbell just learning the WCO and doing pretty well in the system and two Rookie WR getting acclimated to the NFL, I feel Zorn, Campbell and the rest of the team have played above their heads. Yes, these past two games have been disappointing, but we will beat the Hawks this week and hopefully surprise the world and beat the Giants next week.

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[quote=Beemnseven;502736]We don't stand a chance against the Giants. They will destroy us.

I had a better feeling going into the New England game last year.[/quote]

Damn dude! I knew we'd get blown away against NE last year too but is that really inevitable against NY at home. Our defense kept them in check on the opener, and regardless of how poorly the offense plays going forward I think our d remains very tough. I see more interceptions in the last 6 games than in the previous 10. Also see Blache using more schemes to take advantage of mismatches. I don't think we'll get blown out like last year.

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After I've had a couple of days to get that dallas game out of my mind, I still think that if the stars align just right that this team may still have a chance to make the playoffs. Provided that both the D-line and O-line play like a quality NFL unit. I'm sorry, but there is way too much talent on this team for it to not make the playoffs.

I would like to have someone try to explain to me why this team seems to play like crap during this part of the season. And then, during the last 4 or 5 games left to go, they somehow realize their potentail and start to play up to that.

Oh yeah, I'm done with Springs on this team. This guy is suppose to be our #1 corner, but he can't get his ass off of the trainers' table. What quarter will this moist-ass come out of today with some whack-ass cankle injury? If Portis can man up, and put his gear on, and ball with his team, why can't Springs. I'm starting the recruit D. Hall to replace Springs movement. Hell, Hall could also spell the departure of R El, because he too isn't getting the job done. The only major contribution that ARE can be counted on during a season, is his little gimmick end of round option pass.

Damn, I thought that I was over the dallas game! Now I'm pissed-off all over again. Thanks Skins, for ruining my day!

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[quote=4mrusmc;502800]I would like to have someone try to explain to me why this team seems to playlike crap during this part of the season. And then, during the last 4 or 5 games left to go, they somehow realize their potentail and start to play up to that.[/quote]

Well, that happened in 2 of the 4 years that Gibbs coached. In '04 and '06, they pretty much sucked the whole year and there was no late season turn-around.

Nobody should expect that every season.

And [B]"way too much talent"[/B] ?? Who would that be? Portis and Moss when they're healthy, sure. Campbell is a game-manager, sort of like Kyle Orton. So he's not a game-changing quarterback yet. Cooley, while leading the team in catches, really has had a ho-hum year so far. Chris Samuels, again, [I]when healthy[/I], could start on any team in the league, but nobody else on among the front five could. That's it for offensive talent.

Defensive talent? Pass rushers? NO. Dominant run stoppers? In the last couple of weeks, NO. Linebackers other than London Fletcher? NO. The real talent we have is at the secondary, and it's not a lights-out group. Smoot won't kill you, but there always seems to be a big pass completed against him at the worst time. Carlos Rogers and Chris Horton are the only real talents we have back there right now. Even LaRon Landry has fallen off a cliff this year. He's been nothing special.

So really, exactly where is all of this "talent"? It's here and there at best with this team. And most of them come with the oft-used qualifier, when healthy.

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Lets go back and put things into perspective:
1. New coach.
2. New system.
3. Adjustment period.

Looking at where we sit now I can't complain. Most everyone had the Skins last in the division and probably 8-8. We had a nice win streak and everyone started talking SB. We went up against most teams that have been running the same system for a few years and beat them, some in their own house. You have to be proud of the Skins no matter where they end up. A team with this much talent on a team screams SB but everyone needs to keep in mind the Skins were written off by most simply cause of the top 3 things I listed. Having said that to be on the winning side of things is nice instead of trying to break even. I would be estatic if we made 10-6 whether we make playoff or not.

I just hope our passing attack picks up and if not at the end of this season maybe next season we can become the scoring power house Zorn talked about. To be honest I have a hard time thinking one rookie WR is going to make this team look like a power house but I could be wrong. I say one cause Thomas has not done a whole lot even though he has played several games. I'm not knocking him just saying he is a diamond in the rough and will probably need another year to shine. We all are hanging our WR problems on one rookie WR and even then JC tends to only look at Moss and Cooley.

10-6 would be awsome but how would you all feel if we went 9-7. I think I would still feel good. Now if we started losing all our games and ended up on the negative side of things will really upset me.

All and all 10-6 is a respectable number play offs or not.

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[quote=Beemnseven;502801]Well, that happened in 2 of the 4 years that Gibbs coached. In '04 and '06, they pretty much sucked the whole year and there was no late season turn-around.

Nobody should expect that every season.

And [B]"way too much talent"[/B] ?? Who would that be? Portis and Moss when they're healthy, sure. Campbell is a game-manager, sort of like Kyle Orton. So he's not a game-changing quarterback yet. [B]Cooley, while leading the team in catches, really has had a ho-hum year so far.[/B] Chris Samuels, again, [I]when healthy[/I], could start on any team in the league, but nobody else on among the front five could. That's it for offensive talent.

Defensive talent? Pass rushers? NO. Dominant run stoppers? In the last couple of weeks, NO. Linebackers other than London Fletcher? NO. The real talent we have is at the secondary, and it's not a lights-out group. Smoot won't kill you, but there always seems to be a big pass completed against him at the worst time. Carlos Rogers and Chris Horton are the only real talents we have back there right now. Even LaRon Landry has fallen off a cliff this year. He's been nothing special.

So really, exactly where is all of this "talent"? It's here and there at best with this team. And most of them come with the oft-used qualifier, when healthy.[/quote]Cooley, by conventional measures at least, has been the best TE in the NFC.

But yeah, all of our talent is stacked on the offensive side, while all of our depth is on the defensive side. So basically, we need the offense to get healthy and rescue the defense from mediocrity.

If we get real healthy real fast, we'll make the playoffs and possibly even win the division if New York falls off their torrid pace. If the offensive injuries keep piling up, we're looking at 8 or 9 wins.

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Well, I'm eating crow in shame because I didn't think we'd win today. Thank God we did however or the playoff picture would look very bleak. Here's what I'm talking about: Both Dallas and Tampa will have better records as of turkey day so at least temporarily we'll lose the 6th seed. If we can pull off a miracle and win next Sunday we'll get the 6th seed back from Dallas. If we lose... we fall even further behind Tampa and Dallas and then behind Atlanta (probably). Aside from all that it looks like we'll really need at least 10 wins to have a chance for January - the NFC South is coming on very strong between CAR, ATL and the f'n Bucs.

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If we lose next week, I think we are done.

Something tells me we're not losing next week.

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Looking at schedules closer I think Tampa will win their div. Carolina has a little tougher schedule so we'll be in a horse race against Dallas, Carolina and maybe Atlanta. Playoffs still look very questionable.

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[quote=GTripp0012;503463][B]If we lose next week, I think we are done.[/B]

Something tells me we're not losing next week.[/quote]

Agreed... and I hope you're right about getting a win. So hard to tell how we play on such an emotional occasion.

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My take on it is, if we can beat Arizona and Arizona gave the Giants a run for their money, then we can beat the Giants.

In no way will it be easy, it's gonna take a lot of O-line pass protection and a good running game. Its possible, but we absolutely cannot have a showing like the Dallas or the Steelers game.

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nfc record is going to be crucial for us to get into the playoffs as it is the most likely tiebreaker if we are tied with any team out of the division and head to head. right now it is 6-3, we absolutely cannot drop more than 1 nfc game imo the rest of the way

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We just have to play week by week. At least we are not out of the playoffs yet. Next week does not look good. Let hope we play close and that could be a wake up call. Our injuries are not too bad this year. We normally turn it up down the stretch. Lets hope this year is no different then the past.

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I am hoping we can win next week, but I don't hold a lot of hope. Still I think that with the schedules as they are, we can lose 1 more game,(next week) and still get in, but I wish Carolina had won today!

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The Giants can be beat. They're not undefeated.

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[quote=53Fan;503546]The Giants can be beat. They're not undefeated.[/quote]

Cleveland played its best game of the season to beat NY... and that's probably just what we'll need to get the W.