Re: Portis
 

wow, i come here all the time for opinions that are reasonable. gonna have to log off for a bit and ignore the typical fans i try to avoid. Clinton Portis is a warrior, he is the best player on our team and a leader. How do you call out the league leader in rushing 3 weeks ago when there is plenty of blame to pass around. oh, i get it. popular opinion. Guess you want Zorn gone too. At my end with retards and there retarded opinions. KEEP ZORN, AND PORTIS IS OUR FRANCHISE PLAYER!

Re: Portis
 

[quote=beau_str;512876][B]wow, i come here all the time for opinions that are reasonable.[/B] gonna have to log off for a bit and ignore the typical fans i try to avoid. Clinton Portis is a warrior, he is the best player on our team and a leader. How do you call out the league leader in rushing 3 weeks ago when there is plenty of blame to pass around. oh, i get it. popular opinion. Guess you want Zorn gone too. At my end with retards and there retarded opinions. KEEP ZORN, AND PORTIS IS OUR FRANCHISE PLAYER![/quote]

Nobody is going to be reasonable after losing 5 out of the last 6 games, unfortunately. I don't know why people are calling Portis out either when there are severe glaring problems wrong with this team. I mean it'd be like calling out Moss for causing the team to lose.

I mean, really? Portis is the least of Redskins organizations worries. The people calling out Portis are probably the type of people that don't want to see things from a big picture perspective and would rather zero in on one problem and then hop around and point at it like a leprachaun doing a jig on hot coals.

Expand your mind and actually attempt to wrap your mind around bigger problems facing the Skins. I feel like everyone is just on Portis' case cause he ran his mouth on the radio instead of handling his problem with Zorn in another way. People all of a sudden started coming out the woodworks saying, "I hate Portis" as soon as he screwed up.

Bet ya nobody was saying that when he was the leading rusher in the NFL a few weeks back, eh?

I certainly don't think Portis is some elite RB on his way to an amazing breakout season, I can even understand people who say Portis has dropped off a little in the past few seasons.

But to for people to sit here and act like Portis is some plague on the hands of the Redskins roster, who has never done anything since being with the team and who hasn't done anything this season is just freaking ridiculous.

Re: Portis
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;512398]AP
Brandon Jacobs
Brian Westbrook
Michael Turner
D. Williams

I'd rather have all those guys.[/quote]

I think you mean you rather have there offensive line

Re: Portis
 

Just saw this thread after getting back from travel. Definitely one of the top 5 dumbest threads I've seen on this forum over the past 4 years. If everybody on the team played as hard as Portis, we would be a playoff contender every season. The guy is a stone cold warrior. The grade 2 MCL strain he suffered against Pittsburgh is typically a 4 week injury, yet he didn't miss a game. On top of that, show me another RB who picks up blitzing LBs better than Portis. Between playing hurt and as inept as our passing offense is, the year Portis has had is quite remarkable. The Redskins would be about 4-10 (or worse) at this point without Portis's contributions.

Re: Portis
 

At first I chose not to reply to this thread, because I thought this was just an irate guy, who was mudslinging the entire organization, and Portis seemed to fall under that. fter reading the past few pages, and seeing that he has continued to back it up, I felt the need to address it.

To say that Clinton Portis has been clear from criticism for this entire year, would be a farce. He has indeed received criticsm from both within the org and from the media, yet he has played thru pain, and has had an excellent season. He may not be breaking 50 and 60 yd runs, but he is still just as effective. He is a devastating blocker against the rush D, and a hard nosed runner. He has taken the position as a team leader and set an example for his teammates in the offseason.

You claimed that you would rather have the following backs instead of Portis: AP (who was injured prior to him being drafted, and Minny took a chance on him, not knowing whether he was fully healed and returned to normal), Brandon Jacobs(who is currently injured and not playing and may be part of the reason why the Giants are losing), Brian Westbrook(who has been injured for most of the season causing both his team and my fantasy teams to suffer), Michael Turner(who as of last year was LTs backup, and Atl had no real way of knowing whether he would be a bust or not) and DeAngelo Williams(who up until last year was considered a disappointment). You'd rather have these guys, than someone who has proven his toughness and durability and loyalty to this team year in and year out? C'mon. Be serious. Up until our losing streak, the guy was the NFL's leading rusher. No complaints then, huh? But I guess since we're losing everybody deserves to get hated on.

Re: Portis
 

well our " average" runningback made the probowl and all the commentators are singing his praises! I guess the EXPERTS see something that most HATERS...I mean fans don't see. We should be laying off portis. He is the heart of our offense!!! Lets start a thread about someone else..Okay!

Re: Portis
 

I agree that Portis lacks big play ability. I dont know how anyone argue against that. however he is still a great overall back because, he works his ass off, he rarely fumbles, he is the best blocking back in the league, and he does not make mental errors

he is quite bad at making people miss though, he is not elusive at all. I would not be against getting rid of him as long as we draft a replacement. There are so many great rb's drafted every year in the first 2 rounds consistantly.

Re: Portis
 

I honestly can't believe what I am reading. People actually have turned the blame to Portis now. Who, just two weeks ago was seriously in consideration for the MVP of the league! You people have to get a grip. Portis is banged up big time. He is the Redskins offense. Teams have learned to put 8-9 in the box and stop him because Zorn has turned into conservative Joe(you know who) If anyone is on Portis and calling for him to go, that is just ridiculous. Losing brings out funny things in people, just never thought they would turn on our MVP running back.

Let me offer some advise....STOP putting the Redskins in the class of top tier team in the NFL. We are probably bottom 5 in the NFL in the last 10 years. When you people understand that we are NOT an elite team in the NFL, hell even a pretty decent team in the NFL, you will learn to stop being so disappointed. Dont get me wrong, i get fired up with the best of them, but I have learned that we ARE NOT one of the top teams in the NFL, we wont be with Vinny and Danny making decisions and until someone with some experience and knowledge is hired, this is what we will deal with.

Re: Portis
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;512303]I agree with you.... "holding us back" is a good way to put it.

To those who keep pointing out that Portis is such a great blocker (and I agree he is)..... [B]He isn't getting paid $20 mil to pass protect.[/B][/quote]

Unfortunately, the offensive linemen who ARE paid to pass protect don't.

Re: Portis
 

[quote=#56fanatic;512946]I honestly can't believe what I am reading. People actually have turned the blame to Portis now. Who, just two weeks ago was seriously in consideration for the MVP of the league! You people have to get a grip. Portis is banged up big time. He is the Redskins offense. Teams have learned to put 8-9 in the box and stop him because Zorn has turned into conservative Joe(you know who) If anyone is on Portis and calling for him to go, that is just ridiculous. Losing brings out funny things in people, just never thought they would turn on our MVP running back.

Let me offer some advise....STOP putting the Redskins in the class of top tier team in the NFL. We are probably bottom 5 in the NFL in the last 10 years. When you people understand that we are NOT an elite team in the NFL, hell even a pretty decent team in the NFL, you will learn to stop being so disappointed. Dont get me wrong, i get fired up with the best of them, but I have learned that we ARE NOT one of the top teams in the NFL, we wont be with Vinny and Danny making decisions and until someone with some experience and knowledge is hired, this is what we will deal with.[/quote]Although earlier in the year, Portis was chewing up 8-man fronts for dinner. Now, he's struggling against 7-man fronts. The guys up front share a lot of blame, but all you have to do is look at the outcomes of Portis' carries from October to now to see why the offense isn't scoring enough points.

Re: Portis
 

reading this post pisses me off more than anything. first of all yes it's very frustrating that we continually have seasons that end in disappointment..but that gives no one a reason to blame it on our best player on offense by quite a large margin. we can get nowhere on offense without portis, take out any other player on that squad and we will get by. but if you take out portis then betts can't do nearly as much as portis can. what we need is chemistry, we have the names. we just need time and i'm giving up on cambell and blaming most of this skid on him. i say give zorn another year or so to see what he can do. i say draft o-line cause that's our biggest concern as of now

Re: Portis
 

Portis is the 3rd leading rusher, this arguement is not valid. If you started this thread with I don't like portis because of his personality or attitude it would be worth while, but it is a joke to hide your true feelings in no fact arguements.

Re: Portis
 

When all of you signed up for this forum you agreed to the terms of service. One of them was no hateful comments. Calling people retards, while sounding like third graders, is extremely hurtful and demeaning to people with special needs. And yes, it is hateful. Quoting Robert Downey Jr. is another thing. Okay, so you think Going Full Retard is quotable. I get that. Just wondering if you ever gave it a minutes thought to people with special needs and their families and how those words affect them. Shouldn't be that you have to have a family member with special needs to understand the pain, but seems to be that's how it is.
Slurs and stereotypes hurt, any way you look at it.

Re: Portis
 

[quote=hmshore;514005]When all of you signed up for this forum you agreed to the terms of service. One of them was no hateful comments. Calling people retards, while sounding like third graders, is extremely hurtful and demeaning to people with special needs. And yes, it is hateful. Quoting Robert Downey Jr. is another thing. Okay, so you think Going Full Retard is quotable. I get that. Just wondering if you ever gave it a minutes thought to people with special needs and their families and how those words affect them. Shouldn't be that you have to have a family member with special needs to understand the pain, but seems to be that's how it is.
Slurs and stereotypes hurt, any way you look at it.[/quote]


i think you are going at it way too deeply

Re: Portis
 

PLenty of people on this board love to bash the players and point out that they have no class..... some of these fans seem to be talking about themselves as well. Lets try to keep it clean without the "offensive " names.

Re: Portis
 

give it up everyone. Portis is nice....Portis is TOP 5 RB IN NFL when healthly. none of you could tell me any different without me calling you a name. somebody close this thread until further notice.

Re: Portis
 

To all the "retard" commentators.... do you even watch other NFL games? Compare Portis to 85% of other backs in the league. He is slow, has no lateral quickness and is absolutely horrible in the open field. ZERO balance, always falling forward.

He is average at best.

let me see if I understand this. The NFL has 32 teams, each of which has at least one starting RB. of those 32 Clinton Portis is 3rd in rushing yards but he is average at best?

Here is a hint for you:
[B]Don't Smoke Crack Before Posting on the warpath[/B]

Learn it, know it, live it

Re: Portis
 

[quote=Skins4L;514045]give it up everyone. Portis is nice....Portis is TOP 5 RB IN NFL when healthly. none of you could tell me any different without me calling you a name. somebody close this thread until further notice.[/quote]

Portis is a good back.
BUT, he doesn't hit the home run anymore.
He doesn't get past the last man.
And he's getting older.

Here is a list of the backs that i think are better:

o Peterson
o Westbrook
o Williams
o T. Jones
o Johnson
o Slaton
o Forte
o Stewart
o Turner
o Gore
o Parker
o Jackson w/ healthy
o Jacobs
o Smith (yeah from the Lions)

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i'm not saying CP isn't good, but i think he gets more credit then he deserves
i think plenty of backs could do as well if not better then he does with our offensive line-

Just being honest

Re: Portis
 

[quote=DFI;514050]To all the "retard" commentators.... do you even watch other NFL games? Compare Portis to 85% of other backs in the league. He is slow, has no lateral quickness and is absolutely horrible in the open field. ZERO balance, always falling forward.

He is average at best.

let me see if I understand this. The NFL has 32 teams, each of which has at least one starting RB. of those 32 Clinton Portis is 3rd in rushing yards but he is average at best?

Here is a hint for you:
[B]Don't Smoke Crack Before Posting on the warpath[/B]

Learn it, know it, live it[/quote]

Did you just call them "COMMENTATORS"?
Im no Jim Ross bro whos the Retard?
And watch who you say somethin like Learn It, Know It, Live It to also...

you missed all Clintons strong points....
Hes NOT Slow
Excellent Burst thru the hole. (when theyre there)
ELITE/Great Vision (Portis Best RB Trait)
Probally one of the best Pass Blocking RBs in the game.
Decent Hands.
Portis is a WELL ROUNDED Back.
Top 5 In The League HEALTHY. THATS ALL...BOTTOM LINE.

Stop talking ignorant
"HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANOTHER TEAM PLAY"
Cmon man...Your Not Nice.

AND THIS LIST ABOVE ME IS PATHETIC...
I agree with some. But definetly not the majority...for you have aging players on your list. And most the RBs you named are Young Talents who havent near started the resigme of a CPs career.
Non Valid.

THIS WHOLE THREAD FAILS

And well still have Clinton next year so...good luck with your petition.

WATCH THIS: (if it doesnt play go to youtube and search for Portis Landry Race)
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FVNglF0JlA[/ame]
LANDRYS SLOW TOO RIGHT?

Re: Portis
 

Sorry Maroon, but Portis is a good RB, and one of the only guys on the team that seem to want to WIN!!!!!!

Re: Portis
 

[quote=maroonandblack30;512246]Portis is horrible in goal line situations....look at the past 4 years.[/quote]

your stupid?

Re: Portis
 

[quote=30gut;514052]Portis is a good back.
BUT, he doesn't hit the home run anymore.
He doesn't get past the last man.
And he's getting older.

Here is a list of the backs that i think are better:

o Peterson
o Westbrook
o Williams
o T. Jones
o Johnson
o Slaton
o Forte
o Stewart
o Turner
o Gore
o Parker
o Jackson w/ healthy
o Jacobs
o Smith (yeah from the Lions)

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i'm not saying CP isn't good, but i think he gets more credit then he deserves
i think plenty of backs could do as well if not better then he does with our offensive line-

Just being honest[/quote]

Portis is better than a lot of those guys there, simply for the fact that he can play banged up and we still get some good production out of him. Parker, Jacobs, Jackson, and Gore can't take the pounding Portis does, so they miss a lot of games. Forte plays in a rather shitty division, and doesn't have Portis' numbers anyway, so how can you compare them? Only guys on the list that you probably can say are better than Portis are Peterson and Westbrook, and that even is riding on a thin line. Get Portis behind a healthy young solid O line and he would be the rushing king now for sure and we wouldn't be 7-7.

Re: Portis
 

[quote=Skins4L;514053]

AND THIS LIST ABOVE ME IS PATHETIC...
[SIZE="4"]I agree with some[/SIZE]. But definetly not the majority...for you have aging players on your list. And most the RBs you named are Young Talents who havent near started the resigme of a CPs career.
Non Valid.

[/quote]

How can you call the list pathetic yet agree with some?
CP doesn't have to 'bad' for these other backs to better, savvy?

Anyway, like i said before this is like my opinion. Just like its your opinion that CP is a top 5 back.

Back to the list:

o the only aging players on my list are: Brian Westbrook (29), Willie Parker (28), Thomas Jones (30)

o the young backs on my list have all had good, if not great rookie season AND have all shown the ability to beat the last defender


Imo any of the above backs would have done an equal or better job then CP,
i don't have to consider your opinion 'pathetic' to disagree that's what's great about watching football...the ability to have informed discussion...

Re: Portis
 

[quote=hmshore;514005]When all of you signed up for this forum you agreed to the terms of service. One of them was no hateful comments. Calling people retards, while sounding like third graders, is extremely hurtful and demeaning to people with special needs. And yes, it is hateful. Quoting Robert Downey Jr. is another thing. Okay, so you think Going Full Retard is quotable. I get that. Just wondering if you ever gave it a minutes thought to people with special needs and their families and how those words affect them. Shouldn't be that you have to have a family member with special needs to understand the pain, but seems to be that's how it is.
Slurs and stereotypes hurt, any way you look at it.[/quote]

Stuart Smalley in the house ya'll :silly:

Welcome to the board hm. Just remember some us think being called retarded is funny. My wife calls me retard, some of my employees call me retard... I sure as hell don't mind if someone on a blog calls me retard and especially if it's humorous.

Re: Portis
 

most of my above post was a quote of another. lets not forget CP is one of only two in NFL history to have two different 5 game streaks of 120+ yards, as long as he doesn't then kill his ex and her dude and the rob someone he is ok in my book

Re: Portis
 

This thread is starting to get a little too personal, and has run its course. On to the next mindless debate.

Thread locked