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Ok i'll admit it... the thought of AH and JT lining up together gets me a little excited. All I hope is that Albert's contract, if he really does sign here, is extremely incentive laden rather than guaranteed (I don't think he'll go for it and I don't think our FO will force it but you know...).

... funny how much the outlook has changed since I started this thread. I really thought our d-line would consist of Evans, Griff, Monty and Carter starting w/ Golston and Lorenzo rotating in at tackle. I hoped for 1) another year of Griff playing like a warrior and 2) Monty finally playing up to his potential which would pay dividends for our ends... haha.

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Apparently Redskins is considering Chris Canty from Cowboys.. And I think he's good choice?

[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/02/redskins_like_chris_canty.html]Skins Like Canty ... and Other Free-Agent Buzz - Redskins Insider[/url]

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Canty is absoultely a good choice. If he hits the market, I would move the cash from Hall and put it on Canty. Canty is only a year older, and is a better 6 year investment.

Yeah, it would tie a lot of money up at one position, but there's a big difference between 26 and 28 in free agency, which is the difference between Haynesworth and Canty.

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[quote=GTripp0012;529370]Canty is absoultely a good choice. If he hits the market, I would move the cash from Hall and put it on Canty. Canty is only a year older, and is a better 6 year investment.

Yeah, it would tie a lot of money up at one position, but there's a big difference between 26 and 28 in free agency, which is the difference between Haynesworth and Canty.[/quote]

Any word on whether the Cowboys would be able to afford Canty and Lewis? If not, Canty wouldn't be as expensive as AH, right?

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I know this is not logical, but I'm not really up for bringing another Cowboy turned Skins guy in. I don't know how well Canty would do, but seems like we have not had terrific success in that regards. (Maybe the B&G glasses are just too strong to see the talent though)

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[quote=GridIron26;529366]Apparently Redskins is considering Chris Canty from Cowboys.. And I think he's good choice?

[URL="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/2009/02/redskins_like_chris_canty.html"]Skins Like Canty ... and Other Free-Agent Buzz - Redskins Insider[/URL][/quote]

I really like this idea. He's durable, plus younger, cheaper, and more versatile than Haynesworth, played college ball at UVA, and we'd be taking a solid contributor from our arch rival.

Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard. Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....

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Canty would be a great addition.

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[quote=GMScud;529410]Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. [B]And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard.[/B] Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....[/quote]

Perhaps due to cap issues?

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[quote=GMScud;529410]I really like this idea. He's durable, plus younger, cheaper, and more versatile than Haynesworth, played college ball at UVA, and we'd be taking a solid contributor from our arch rival.

Although that post on RI says we are looking at Mark Tauscher. Boo. He's 31 and coming off surgery for a torn ACL. Do we really need another O-lineman on the wrong side of 30 coming off injury?? Come on. And it says we have no interest in Brandon Moore, who is a healthy 27 year old guard. Apparently we are looking to add 2 tackles and a guard....[/quote]

I like the idea of having Canty, hopefully this will quiet any thoughts of going after Haynesworth.

I don't like taking on a 31 year old lineman, unless he comes super cheap. I wonder if Buges is the type that only likes veteran players.

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[quote=GridIron26;529413]Perhaps due to cap issues?[/quote]

Well Tauscher isn't exactly a bargain. He's averaged $5M/yr recently. If we're going to pony up that kind of loot, might as well try for the younger, less injured player. That said, I have no idea what kind of money Brandon Moore will be looking for.

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Tauscher would be a pretty decent stop gap. Let's face it with 4 draft picks and many holes to fill we're gonna have to look at players like this.

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[quote=Mattyk72;529419]Tauscher would be a pretty decent stop gap. Let's face it with 4 draft picks and many holes to fill we're gonna have to look at players like this.[/quote]

Oh no doubt, I just wonder what the difference is price-wise between him and Brandon Moore. If it's not too significant, then why not go younger/healthier? Again, I have no clue what Moore's asking price will be.

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[quote=GMScud;529423]Oh no doubt, I just wonder what the difference is price-wise between him and Brandon Moore. If it's not too significant, then why not go younger/healthier? Again, I have no clue what Moore's asking price will be.[/quote]

Im pretty sure Brandon Moore is a guard so I don't think its an either/or case. We need both positions. But, I feel like we can address hopefully one in the draft. If we can get Moore for 3-4 million a year, I think it would be a steal. Then we can draft best available OT at the 13 spot

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[quote=cobracai1;529440][B]Im pretty sure Brandon Moore is a guard so I don't think its an either/or case. [/B]We need both positions. But, I feel like we can address hopefully one in the draft. If we can get Moore for 3-4 million a year, I think it would be a steal. Then we can draft best available OT at the 13 spot[/quote]



The reason I was using the either/or is the Redskins Insider post mentioned Tauscher moving from tackle to guard if he came here.

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[quote=GMScud;529441]The reason I was using the either/or is the Redskins Insider post mentioned Tauscher moving from tackle to guard if he came here.[/quote]

Whoops. Must've missed that part. Either way in that case I just don't see why we don't try to move Jansen a la Tauscher before we pay for a FA who might/might not pan out at a new position

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;528036]Vinny Cerrato was just on redskins radio. After being very ambiguous in answering pretty much everything, he casually mentioned that Phillip Daniels would be a free agent on February 27th.... even though his contract goes through 2010 according to this site. i'm thinking he didnt realize what he was saying and let something slip. Good news IMO. We would be foolish to bring back a 36-year old DE whos had injury problems in recent years.

This could also be a sign we plan to keep Evans and/or Taylor.[/quote]

daniels has a clause in his contract, it's been known that he'll be a free agent once the 27th hits for a couple weeks at least. they'll probably bring him back for less - they can save up to 2mill that way.

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A lot of people seem to think $8 million/year will be the going rate for Canty. Not sure how that number came about. Packers expected to be major players for him as well though.

Actually, quite honestly the only place I've heard about this significant interest in Canty is through JLC

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Kind of surprised that interest in Canty is going over well w/ ya'll... i for one want nothing to do w/ a Cowboy. There isn't a single player on the Dallas roster I wish we had.

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[quote=The Goat;529596]Kind of surprised that interest in Canty is going over well w/ ya'll... i for one want nothing to do w/ a Cowboy. There isn't a single player on the Dallas roster I wish we had.[/quote]

You as well as everyone else would welcome Demarcus Ware with open arms.

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[quote=WaldSkins;529598]You as well as everyone else would welcome Demarcus Ware with open arms.[/quote]

Nope. Call me stubborn. Call me stupid. I don't want anything to do w/ a Cowboy...

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[quote=The Goat;529620]Nope. Call me stubborn. Call me stupid. I don't want anything to do w/ a Cowboy...[/quote]

Stubborn...Stupid....feel better? :) I admire your utter disdain for the Cowgirls. I really do.

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[quote=SmootSmack;529570]A lot of people seem to think $8 million/year will be the going rate for Canty. Not sure how that number came about. Packers expected to be major players for him as well though.

Actually, quite honestly the only place I've heard about this significant interest in Canty is through JLC[/quote]

Smootsmack vs JLC. Never has there been a battle so epic since Liquid vs Solid Snake.:D Either way I'm kind of bummed to hear that JLC might be the only one sprouting off this non-sense, but at least it'll show that I don't think like Vinny Cerrato.

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I almost started a thread to ask how ya'll think our d-line now compares to other teams' d-line, but then I remembered this old thread.

I think we'll be in the top five in terms of tackles made by d-lineman, sacks and pressure on opposing QBs. I think we could be the best actually. I continue to expect a breakout by Monty, and now i wonder if seeing Al dominate up close will provide the motivation Monty needs to be that kind of player. (I'm far from an expert but I think the biggest thing holding Monty back from that kind of elite status is his motivation). Kedric gets better every year too, though his improvement is expected to be more gradual. Carter will benefit enormously from Al's presence. Ultimately I think we'll get the LDE situation handled adequately. Last but not least I think Griff plays like a warrior (again) this year.

... I know the Giants own a lot of big names and talent on their d-line, but it's worth remembering their d-coordinator, Bill Sheridan, has only 4 or 5 years in the NFL and this is his first shot at the position. Also worth a mention that Canty, who some of you shamefully coveted ;), hasn't been groomed in the 4-3. I don't see the G-men as the preordained best d-line group out there...

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[quote=The Goat;535307][B]I almost started a thread to ask how ya'll think our d-line now compares to other teams' d-line, but then I remembered this old thread.[/B]

I think we'll be in the top five in terms of tackles made by d-lineman, sacks and pressure on opposing QBs. I think we could be the best actually. I continue to expect a breakout by Monty, and now i wonder if seeing Al dominate up close will provide the motivation Monty needs to be that kind of player. (I'm far from an expert but I think the biggest thing holding Monty back from that kind of elite status is his motivation). Kedric gets better every year too, though his improvement is expected to be more gradual. Carter will benefit enormously from Al's presence. Ultimately I think we'll get the LDE situation handled adequately. Last but not least I think Griff plays like a warrior (again) this year.

... I know the Giants own a lot of big names and talent on their d-line, but it's worth remembering their d-coordinator, Bill Sheridan, has only 4 or 5 years in the NFL and this is his first shot at the position. Also worth a mention that Canty, who some of you shamefully coveted ;), hasn't been groomed in the 4-3. I don't see the G-men as the preordained best d-line group out there...[/quote]

I'm so proud of you :food-smil

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No doubt the D line is upgraded already, we desperately need the O line addressed though. Our D can stuff folks, but if we can't score more than say 13 points a game we will have a subpar record.

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[quote=The Goat;535307]I almost started a thread to ask how ya'll think our d-line now compares to other teams' d-line, but then I remembered this old thread.

I think we'll be in the top five in terms of tackles made by d-lineman, sacks and pressure on opposing QBs. I think we could be the best actually. I continue to expect a breakout by Monty, and now i wonder if seeing Al dominate up close will provide the motivation Monty needs to be that kind of player. (I'm far from an expert but I think the biggest thing holding Monty back from that kind of elite status is his motivation). Kedric gets better every year too, though his improvement is expected to be more gradual. Carter will benefit enormously from Al's presence. Ultimately I think we'll get the LDE situation handled adequately. Last but not least I think Griff plays like a warrior (again) this year.

... I know the Giants own a lot of big names and talent on their d-line, but it's worth remembering their d-coordinator, Bill Sheridan, has only 4 or 5 years in the NFL and this is his first shot at the position. Also worth a mention that Canty, who some of you shamefully coveted ;), hasn't been groomed in the 4-3. [B]I don't see the G-men as the preordained best d-line group out there.[/B]..[/quote]
I don't know about sacks, but pressures and run stopping tackles I definitely think we will be top 5. Unless AH just doesn't motivate, but he has talked the right way so far, and I expect he will vastly improve the inside of the line, which translates to no more 4th qtr's where the opponent can just run the clock down.

As for the Giants, I think they will have all the media hype Dallas did last year. But I expect them to fizzle, unless their draft is above average. Their offense is not improved, (and I don't expect Plax back) and they brought two guys in who have had off-field issues. Like you said their D-Coordinator is new and now he has 7 egos to balance. Remember, before their SB run, the Giants often struggled with internal strife, I think that returns with a vengeance this year.

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Every quote I have seen from Daniels makes me think he is trying to get a relatively big payday, he consistently makes these type of comments[QUOTE=Washington Times]"We're getting closer to getting something done with the Redskins since Demetric left," Daniels said. "They know I don't want to switch teams, but I will." [/QUOTE]
I hope he comes back, but we may just have to go with Wilson et. al.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;535337]Every quote I have seen from Daniels makes me think he is trying to get a relatively big payday, he consistently makes these type of comments
I hope he comes back, but we may just have to go with Wilson et. al.[/quote]

Man Wilson can't play RDE... he's smaller than some of our LBs (weight wise). The other youngsters are not to impressive either size wise and btw have squat for experience. I really think Daniels will be back but doubt he can hold the position by himself. Worst comes to worst he rotates w/ 1) Carter, who switches side on passing downs and Wilson comes in at RDE (this is a nice pass rush complement IMO but probably doesn't ever happen) 2) a DE we draft this year (i highly doubt we take one with our first pick though).

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Kind of a hind sight 20/20 type deal, but if we had drafted Calias Campbell instead of Fred Davis we wouldn't have given up a second round pick for Jason Taylor, Phillip Daniels might have stayed healthy a little longer (seriously I mean if Campbell's there maybe Daniels isn't in on that rep that takes him out for the year), and we'd most likely have our starting LE poised to have a big season with Haynesworth in the middle.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;535454]Kind of a hind sight 20/20 type deal, but if we had drafted Calias Campbell instead of Fred Davis we wouldn't have given up a second round pick for Jason Taylor, Phillip Daniels might have stayed healthy a little longer (seriously I mean if Campbell's there maybe Daniels isn't in on that rep that takes him out for the year), and we'd most likely have our starting LE poised to have a big season with Haynesworth in the middle.[/quote]

That is a VERY depressing post. Thanks