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TheMalcolmConnection 04-13-2009 10:47 AM

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Ahhhhh. Gotcha. I work in IT at W&L. Office is right next door to VMI.

MTK 04-13-2009 10:57 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;545242]You sound EXACTLY like me on the road. I CANNOT stand assholes who feel like they have this sense of entitlement and go all nuts because you're passing someone going 65 at 75 and THEY want to drive 85-90. Who the F do you think you are?

I routinely call the police on jackasses tailgating and weaving in and out. Sometimes I get lucky enough to beep the horn at them when they're pulled over down the road.[/quote]

What if it was someone with a legit emergency that was flashing their lights? Granted 99% of the time it's just probably some a-hole, but what if it's that one time where someone has a legit reason?

To me it's just easy to move over and let them go. Sooner or later they're going to get theirs.

firstdown 04-13-2009 11:09 AM

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[quote=Daseal;545107]Schneed: If you come to Virginia, I suggest you don't practice this type of driving seeing as how it is illegal. Below is a link to a site that gives a synopsis of all states then a link to their actual driving laws.
[URL="http://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html"]State "keep right" laws[/URL]

Someone mentioned red light cameras earlier. I haven't read anything about them helping much at all. In fact, you can only be ticketed (at least in VA) if there's a sign saying that the intersection has cameras. And here's one of many studies showing that they actually cause more accidents than they prevent. I must say, one of my two accidents happened because I didn't run a red light. They actually got out of the car and said "Why didn't you just run it? Look what you did!" The light was fully red by then.

I'm looking for the insurance survey now. It was sent to our house a few years ago by our insurance company. I need to try to find it, and will look more. But Im already late for a family thing. Hope the left lane is clear![/quote]

The accident happened because the guy behind you was tailgating and did not allow enough room to stop so he hit you. All the stuff I have seen show that red light camera's do work and cut down on accidents. Even if thats not true a rear end accident is usually not even close to a T bone intersection accident. This has been a big issue here in Va for the past couple of years.

GhettoDogAllStars 04-13-2009 11:48 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;544953]Another factor, I'm a stubborn son of a bitch on the roads, and I'm flat out not willing to let somebody go 95 if I can help it.

Had a confrontation with one such driver at the Chesapeake House rest stop in Maryland. When he got back on the road he chilled out.

I guess you can call it reverse road rage. I flat out don't tolerate it. I've called the cops on people from my cell, I've blockaded, I've confronted them at rest stops.

I lost a family member to a reckless driver. It touches a nerve.[/quote]

Sorry to hear about your loss. You might want to avoid the confrontations though -- road rage is real (I'm super cereal).

Hog1 04-13-2009 01:02 PM

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I cheat to 10 over. More than that, I cannot deal with the ticket. If I could cheat to 20over.......I would.
I think I'll go check out the Montana Autobahn

hooskins 04-13-2009 01:05 PM

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I am about to drive back down to Charlottesville right now on 29. I set the cruise to 10-11 over and state troopers don't give me crap.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:17 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;545273]What if it was someone with a legit emergency that was flashing their lights? Granted 99% of the time it's just probably some a-hole, but what if it's that one time where someone has a legit reason?

To me it's just easy to move over and let them go. Sooner or later they're going to get theirs.[/quote]

This is a generalized post not entirely directed in response to Matty's post above:

- To Matty's point. If you have an emergency, call friggin 911! What the hell are you doing trying to drive somewhere yourself? That's why they have sirens and flashing lights.

- Just because it's an "emergency" and you're driving, doesn't make excessive speeding any less illegal.

- Glad to hear there is at least one other person on this site who's willing to stand up for safe driving. TMC makes great points. The most significant of which is basically: if you're speeding excessively or driving aggressively, you have no right to criticize the legality of blocking the left lane. If you can break the law by speeding, you can't get mad at me for blocking the left lane. How is one more legal, or justifiable, than the other?

- I see that my abrasive personality, combined with my combative stance against speeders, has pissed off more than one person on this site. I say good. I love you for being a Redskins fan, but slow down. Instead of getting caught up in battling me because I'm an asshole, I ask you to address the purpose of this thread and give me one, ONE rational reason why you need to go 95 mph on the road?

If you're going 85 I really don't care all that much. But if you're going 95, bring it, start actually debating this. Why do you need to go that fast?

MTK 04-13-2009 01:21 PM

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All I know is it's up to the police to monitor and enforce traffic, not some tough guy who thinks he rules the road. In the end your passive aggressive behavior is no better than the all out road ragers and it only contributes to the problem. But hey have fun playing traffic cop.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:22 PM

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[quote=hooskins;545265]TMC I don't this calling the cops is really immature, I think it is ineffective. I actually suggested calling the cops to Schneed, whom I think is quite immature with the slowing traffic down bit.[/quote]

I guess you're not reading my posts? I said I've called the cops on people back in post 29.

Again, what makes anybody think I care about being mature? I care about doing what I can to make the roads safer, whether you (or anybody else) think that's immature is immaterial to me.

gibbsisgod 04-13-2009 01:23 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545305]

- To Matty's point. If you have an emergency, call friggin 911! What the hell are you doing trying to drive somewhere yourself? That's why they have sirens and flashing lights.

[/quote]What would you have suggested I do in my situation? I was in a differnet state. I raced home to be beside my child in her time of need. As I said before, i don't speed, but I think I had a legit reason that day.

I wonder if your child was having a medical emergency if you would feel the same way.

"abrassive personality" , Thats putting it mildly.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:25 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;545306]All I know is it's up to the police to monitor and enforce traffic, not some tough guy who thinks he rules the road. In the end your passive aggressive behavior is no better than the all out road ragers and it only contributes to the problem. But hey have fun playing traffic cop.[/quote]

No it doesn't. It slows people down. And that's safer every day of the week.

The less the speed differential between cars on the road, the safer the road. Someone said it earlier, an elderly dude going 45 when everyone else is going 65 is just as dangerous as someone going 85 when everyone else is going 65.

The speed differential is what limits reaction times. Eliminate that differential and you have a safer road.

Come on, argue the logic. You're all tied up in the fact that I'm a combative jerk. Cool your heads and debate. Explain to me how I'm wrong? GMScud said this point could be argued the other way, well I still haven't heard anyone argue it.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-13-2009 01:26 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;545273]What if it was someone with a legit emergency that was flashing their lights? Granted 99% of the time it's just probably some a-hole, but what if it's that one time where someone has a legit reason?

To me it's just easy to move over and let them go. Sooner or later they're going to get theirs.[/quote]

I know, I know. Sometimes I count on karma to take care of people, but sometimes people are just such assholes that I can't help myself and that's one my faults. I DO remember one occasion where a car was BLOWING up the highway with their flashers on and they got right up on me. For me, that was definitely a signal I needed to move. The person in the passenger seat looked like they were unconscious or something. Like you said, 99% of those situations someone will be a total asshole, but sometimes it could be serious.

Maybe people in emergency situations don't have the presence of mind at the time to turn on their flashers, but I would for sure get out of someone's way who had those on.

MTK 04-13-2009 01:29 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545311]No it doesn't. It slows people down. And that's safer every day of the week.

The less the speed differential between cars on the road, the safer the road. Someone said it earlier, an elderly dude going 45 when everyone else is going 65 is just as dangerous as someone going 85 when everyone else is going 65.

The speed differential is what limits reaction times. Eliminate that differential and you have a safer road.

Come on, argue the logic. You're all tied up in the fact that I'm a combative jerk. Cool your heads and debate. Explain to me how I'm wrong? GMScud said this point could be argued the other way, well I still haven't heard anyone argue it.[/quote]

The simple logic is you're NOT A COP dude. It's not your job to monitor and enforce traffic flow.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:30 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;545308]What would you have suggested I do in my situation? I was in a differnet state. I raced home to be beside my child in her time of need. As I said before, i don't speed, but I think I had a legit reason that day.

I wonder if your child was having a medical emergency if you would feel the same way.

"abrassive personality" , Thats putting it mildly.[/quote]

If you were to go 85 or 95, how much time would it save you? In case you're not a math person, over the course of a 120-mile trip, it would save you 9 minutes.

I have no idea of the nature of the emergency. Hopefully someone called 911 so professionals could be on the scene. But I still don't see the logic in endangering the lives of drivers around you to save 10 minutes.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:33 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;545314]The simple logic is you're NOT A COP dude. It's not your job to monitor and enforce traffic flow.[/quote]

Why is that relevant? If you can break the law by going 95, why can't I break the law by blocking the left lane?

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:34 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;545273]What if it was someone with a legit emergency that was flashing their lights? Granted 99% of the time it's just probably some a-hole, but what if it's that one time where someone has a legit reason?

To me it's just easy to move over and let them go. Sooner or later they're going to get theirs.[/quote]

To be fair, if I saw blinking hazards I'd move over. Like TMC said it would probably signal me that something's up.

saden1 04-13-2009 01:36 PM

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This thread is degrading to "my roulette system works" level. BTW, if cops wouldn't approve of your actions you probably shouldn't do it.

mredskins 04-13-2009 01:36 PM

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I agree with S10 about justify driving fast becasue of an emergence, doesn't make sense even if it was my son. I am not a DR I am going there to give him my support, in all reality the medical team is probably already there with him. Why should I endanger myself and the publics, would getting in an accident help the stituation? No. You should always ask someone to drive you in a stituation like that, if possible.

Also if the accident occured in front of you and you feel you must rush this person to the hospital you are better off calling 911 for an ambulance. Yes you may make it there quicker to the hospital but remeber the ambulance is going to adminster care as soon as they get to the scene. I learned this the hard way when my son had an extreme case of the flu, I figured it would be easier to drive him there and quicker. Guess what happen he started puking in the car and need my help. I had to pull over help him and call the ambulance to meet me on the road (try explainin them to exactly where you are, not fun). He was three months old at the time and didn't know how to clear his mouth of vomit so he would start choking on it and I need to clear it. Never again will I try to rush him to the hospital.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:38 PM

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[quote=saden1;545319]This thread is degrading to "my roulette system works" level. [B]BTW, if cops wouldn't approve of your actions you probably shouldn't do it.[/B][/quote]

I think if people just cool off and debate, it will be fine.

And to your second point which I bolded, exactly my sentiments: don't speed. Ask any cop which is more dangerous/less advisable:

A) Speeding at 20+ mph over the speed limit (aka reckless driving)
B) Blocking traffic in the left lane by going a steady 75.

I think they'll choose A, and I think I can say that pretty safely. If I can do something to make the road safer, I'm going to do it, and until I get pulled over for it I'll keep doing it.

SmootSmack 04-13-2009 01:41 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545315]If you were to go 85 or 95, how much time would it save you? In case you're not a math person, over the course of a 120-mile trip, it would save you 9 minutes.

I have no idea of the nature of the emergency. Hopefully someone called 911 so professionals could be on the scene. But I still don't see the logic in endangering the lives of drivers around you to save 10 minutes.[/quote]

What if you're Ryan Moats's wife and those 9 minutes are the difference between having one final moment with your mom...or not?

GMScud 04-13-2009 01:41 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545305]This is a generalized post not entirely directed in response to Matty's post above:

- To Matty's point. If you have an emergency, call friggin 911! What the hell are you doing trying to drive somewhere yourself? That's why they have sirens and flashing lights.

- Just because it's an "emergency" and you're driving, doesn't make excessive speeding any less illegal.

- Glad to hear there is at least one other person on this site who's willing to stand up for safe driving. TMC makes great points. The most significant of which is basically: if you're speeding excessively or driving aggressively, you have no right to criticize the legality of blocking the left lane. If you can break the law by speeding, you can't get mad at me for blocking the left lane. How is one more legal, or justifiable, than the other?

- I see that my abrasive personality, combined with my combative stance against speeders, has pissed off more than one person on this site. I say good. I love you for being a Redskins fan, but slow down. Instead of getting caught up in battling me because I'm an asshole, I ask you to address the purpose of this thread and give me one, ONE rational reason why you need to go 95 mph on the road?

If you're going 85 I really don't care all that much. But if you're going 95, bring it, start actually debating this. Why do you need to go that fast?[/quote]

Has anyone here said they regularly travel 95mph and defended as much?

Speeding is not more legal or justifiable than becoming a highway vigilante like yourself. So I guess we're all just hypocrites then.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:43 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;545324]What if you're Ryan Moats's wife and those 9 minutes are the difference between having one final moment with your mom...or not?[/quote]

Well he was detained by a cop, so that's different.

But in the world of the hypothetical, I guess put on your flashers. Like I said, that would probably signal me that something's up.

But you really shouldn't be driving if you're in a tough emotional state like that, regardless of the speed you're going.

mredskins 04-13-2009 01:49 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;545324]What if you're Ryan Moats's wife and those 9 minutes are the difference between having one final moment with your mom...or not?[/quote]


I would not be shelfish enough to endanger others so that ?I could spend the last 9 minutes with my mom. Nothing justifys endanger other people's lives or your own by driving reckless and fast.

My cop friend always says the most dangerous weapon you can give someone is an automoblie. I tend to agree with him.

gibbsisgod 04-13-2009 01:49 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545315]If you were to go 85 or 95, how much time would it save you? In case you're not a math person, over the course of a 120-mile trip, it would save you 9 minutes.

I have no idea of the nature of the emergency. Hopefully someone called 911 so professionals could be on the scene. But I still don't see the logic in endangering the lives of drivers around you to save 10 minutes.[/quote]the last thing on my mind was how much time I would save by going 95. The only thing on mind was I needed to be with my child ASAP. And I was flashing my lights and had my hazards on and all I know is he was acting just like you.

All I'm saying is 2 wrongs don't make a right. And the major point is you don't know why a person might be speeding.

Hypothetical scenario: Lets take the Ryan Moats situation and change it up a bit. Lets say he got a call saying a family member was dying and he needed to come now. He follows the speed limt and gets to the hospital only to find out he was 5 minutes too late. I would bet if you were in this situation you would drive as fast as you could to be beside a loved one who was dying.

In my situation I was 22 years old and my wife was 20. Our daughter was having a serious medical issue and while 911 was called, It was my responsibility to be there. You are right, endangering the lives of others is never a good thing but at the time, I did what was necessary and someone like you was just being an asshole vigilante traffic cop.

GMScud 04-13-2009 01:50 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545327]Well he was detained by a cop, so that's different.

But in the world of the hypothetical, I guess put on your flashers. Like I said, that would probably signal me that something's up.
[B]
But you really shouldn't be driving if you're in a tough emotional state like that, regardless of the speed you're going.[/B][/quote]

Come on man. Be realistic. Put yourself in his shoes. If your wife's mother was just minutes from death, you both would be upset and emotional about it. Would you tell your wife, sorry honey, I'm too sad to drive us to the hospital?

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:51 PM

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[quote=GMScud;545325]Has anyone here said they regularly travel 95mph and defended as much?

Speeding is not more legal or justifiable than becoming a highway vigilante like yourself. So I guess we're all just hypocrites then.[/quote]

Yeah, a couple people have said that. Angry in post 22. And redskinsjim told us he took is car up to 128 mph (on an open road). In post 2 JoeRedskin said he goes 75-95 depending on the situation. So I guess in most situations he'd be fine, in some not so much.

But I have no significant problem with going 10-15 mph over the limit. It's not the coolest thing in the world but that's not something that will get my panties in a bunch. I've got no problem with the way you drive, for example, Scud. We wouldn't have a problem on the roads at all.

That's why I keep saying people have gotten caught up in debating me because I'm an asshole, even though for most here there's no fundamental disagreement. Hell, Matty even told us how in residential neighborhoods if someone is tailing him, he'll slow down to piss them off.

I mean isn't that basically the same thing? It's a passive aggressive move.

mredskins 04-13-2009 01:52 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;545332]the last thing on my mind was how much time I would save by going 95. The only thing on mind was I needed to be with my child ASAP. And I was flashing my lights and had my hazards on and all I know is he was acting just like you.

All I'm saying is 2 wrongs don't make a right. And the major point is you don't know why a person might be speeding.

Hypothetical scenario: Lets take the Ryan Moats situation and change it up a bit. Lets say he got a call saying a family member was dying and he needed to come now. He follows the speed limt and gets to the hospital only to find out he was 5 minutes too late. I would bet if you were in this situation you would drive as fast as you could to be beside a loved one who was dying.

In my situation I was 22 years old and my wife was 20. Our daughter was having a serious medical issue and while 911 was called, It was my responsibility to be there. You are right, endangering the lives of others is never a good thing but at the time, I did what was necessary and someone like you was just being an asshole vigilante traffic cop.[/quote]


Other then support how where you going to help your ailing daughter? Was this worth risking your life and others? Hmmm...no.

I realize there is a huge emotionally factor here but get someone else to drive you.

GMScud 04-13-2009 01:54 PM

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[quote=mredskins;545331]I would not be shelfish enough to endanger others so that ?I could spend the last 9 minutes with my mom. Nothing justifys endanger other people's lives or your own by driving reckless and fast.

My cop friend always says the most dangerous weapon you can give someone is an automoblie. I tend to agree with him.[/quote]

Moats wasn't hauling ass like a jerk, he was probably speeding a bit, but he had his hazards on, and the reason he was stopped was for running a red light. However, he came to a complete stop at that light, and when he saw no other cars were coming, he went through the intersection. Sure, he violated a traffic law, but it was pretty defensible given the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't say he was recklessly endangering other people's lives.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:56 PM

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[quote=mredskins;545335]Other then support how where you going to help your ailing daughter? Was this worth risking your life and others? Hmmm...no.

I realize there is a huge emotionally factor here but get someone else to drive you.[/quote]

Exactly. How can you help a sick child? You're not an MD, right?

It's an emotional reaction, which believe me, I get. I'd probably feel compelled to get there as quickly as possible too. But that doesn't make it smart, and that doesn't make it right.

What I'd really kick myself over is if I got in an accident where I killed somebody, or left my wife without a husband.

In that situation I think I'd have to draw upon faith. Send up a prayer to whatever God there may be, and hope it all turns out alright.

I feel for you though GIG, and even though I disagree with the actions you took, don't think the weight of the situation is lost on me. I would struggle with it as well, and I imagine I'd get up to 90 at times and then remind myself to cool down and be safe, and then get back up to 90, and cool down and be safe, and so on.

Hog1 04-13-2009 01:57 PM

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I guess it's.......WWHVD?
What would highway vigilante do? Crazy man!

Schneed10 04-13-2009 01:58 PM

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[quote=GMScud;545336]Moats wasn't hauling ass like a jerk, he was probably speeding a bit, but he had his hazards on, and the reason he was stopped was for running a red light. However, he came to a complete stop at that light, and when he saw no other cars were coming, he went through the intersection. Sure, he violated a traffic law, but it was pretty defensible given the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't say he was recklessly endangering other people's lives.[/quote]

This is why I don't like to argue hypotheticals, it's just confusing and pointless.

We're not debating what happened to Moats, we're debating whether it would be OK to speed excessively if you had a relative on their deathbed and you had moments to see them one final time.

GMScud 04-13-2009 01:58 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545334]Yeah, a couple people have said that. Angry in post 22. And redskinsjim told us he took is car up to 128 mph (on an open road). In post 2 JoeRedskin said he goes 75-95 depending on the situation. So I guess in most situations he'd be fine, in some not so much.

But I have no significant problem with going 10-15 mph over the limit. It's not the coolest thing in the world but that's not something that will get my panties in a bunch. I've got no problem with the way you drive, for example, Scud. We wouldn't have a problem on the roads at all.

That's why I keep saying people have gotten caught up in debating me because I'm an asshole, even though for most here there's no fundamental disagreement. Hell, Matty even told us how in residential neighborhoods if someone is tailing him, he'll slow down to piss them off.

I mean isn't that basically the same thing? It's a passive aggressive move.[/quote]

I gotcha. Like I said before, even though I'm not a fan of your behavior on the roads, we're basically in agreement. The only thing I'm not sure about is your assumption that calmly traveling around 90 in a straight line is more likely to cause and accident than road-raging at 75.

Schneed10 04-13-2009 02:00 PM

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[quote=Mattyk72;544728]Man I hate that, if someone is riding my ass in residential area where the limit is 30 or 35 most times I'll ease off the gas by a good 5 mph just to piss them off even more.[/quote]

Had to dig this up. How is this better or different from what I do?

gibbsisgod 04-13-2009 02:05 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545338]Exactly. How can you help a sick child? You're not an MD, right?

It's an emotional reaction, which believe me, I get. I'd probably feel compelled to get there as quickly as possible too. But that doesn't make it smart, and that doesn't make it right.

What I'd really kick myself over is if I got in an accident where I killed somebody, or left my wife without a husband.

In that situation I think I'd have to draw upon faith. Send up a prayer to whatever God there may be, and hope it all turns out alright.

I feel for you though GIG, and even though I disagree with the actions you took, don't think the weight of the situation is lost on me. I would struggle with it as well, and I imagine I'd get up to 90 at times and then remind myself to cool down and be safe, and then get back up to 90, and cool down and be safe, and so on.[/quote]No I'm not an MD. I was a very young and new father who was scared. You are right though, it wasn't smart.

My whole point was to not take the law into your own hands because it may be a life or death situation one time. The person who held me up didn't know my child was having an emergency, and you don't know what the situation is of the person who is speeding.

mredskins 04-13-2009 02:08 PM

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[quote=GMScud;545336]Moats wasn't hauling ass like a jerk, he was probably speeding a bit, but he had his hazards on, and the reason he was stopped was for running a red light. However, he came to a complete stop at that light, and when he saw no other cars were coming, he went through the intersection. Sure, he violated a traffic law, but it was pretty defensible given the circumstances. I certainly wouldn't say he was recklessly endangering other people's lives.[/quote]

I never said Moat did this, I was saying I would not do this.

GM not to be a jerk but you should try re-reading post before commenting a few times here and in the "advice needed" thread you have made remarks then had to back peddle cause you said the wrong thing. I have done it too, just saying.

Hog1 04-13-2009 02:15 PM

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Man, that is some funny stuff. You know that guy is ripping his car apart trying to find his Sawed-off

MK.......you should be ashamed
[B]Man I hate that, if someone is riding my ass in residential area where the limit is 30 or 35 most times I'll ease off the gas by a good 5 mph just to piss them off even more.[/B]

Schneed10 04-13-2009 02:17 PM

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[quote=gibbsisgod;545343]No I'm not an MD. I was a very young and new father who was scared. You are right though, it wasn't smart.

My whole point was to not take the law into your own hands because it may be a life or death situation one time. The person who held me up didn't know my child was having an emergency, and you don't know what the situation is of the person who is speeding.[/quote]

That's a fair point. But again I have to go by the odds.

Chances are I'm not going to run into a maniac with a gun on the road, and chances are the speeder behind me is not in a life or death situation.

And even if he is, I'm probably doing him a favor by slowing him down, even though he definitely wouldn't see it that way at the time.

MTK 04-13-2009 02:28 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;545334]Yeah, a couple people have said that. Angry in post 22. And redskinsjim told us he took is car up to 128 mph (on an open road). In post 2 JoeRedskin said he goes 75-95 depending on the situation. So I guess in most situations he'd be fine, in some not so much.

But I have no significant problem with going 10-15 mph over the limit. It's not the coolest thing in the world but that's not something that will get my panties in a bunch. I've got no problem with the way you drive, for example, Scud. We wouldn't have a problem on the roads at all.

That's why I keep saying people have gotten caught up in debating me because I'm an asshole, even though for most here there's no fundamental disagreement. Hell, Matty even told us how in residential neighborhoods if someone is tailing him, he'll slow down to piss them off.

I mean isn't that basically the same thing? It's a passive aggressive move.[/quote]

No it's not the same. On the highway I'll move over to allow them to pass in the appropriate passing lane. On a normal 2 lane road I don't have to concede. I may slow down but I'll still go a reasonable speed, I'm not slowing down to a ridiculous crawl.

GMScud 04-13-2009 02:57 PM

Re: do you speed?
 
[quote=mredskins;545345][B]I never said Moat did this,[/B] I was saying I would not do this.

GM not to be a jerk but you should try re-reading post before commenting a few times here and in the "advice needed" thread you have made remarks then had to back peddle cause you said the wrong thing. I have done it too, just saying.[/quote]

Actually, the way I read it, you did:

"I would not be selfish enough to endanger others so that I could spend the last 9 minutes with my mom." (Not to be a jerk, but I fixed your typos/spelling ;))

That sounds to me like you said you wouldn't be selfish enough to act the way Moats did.

I appreciate your input, but I don't think I need much help with my reading comprehension.

Monkeydad 04-13-2009 03:04 PM

Re: do you speed?
 
[quote=Schneed10;545318]To be fair, if I saw blinking hazards I'd move over. Like TMC said it would probably signal me that something's up.[/quote]

Yeah, hazard lights would, but high beams would signify a road-raged jerk 99% of the time.

I have actually called the police on some punk kid in a Japanese farting car (Civic I believe) that was weaving in and out of traffic near on-ramps and actually cut me off TWICE after he got caught in a "slower" lane and I ended up going past him again.

The police looked up the number and paid a visit to the address. Turned out the car was registered to a woman but she said the car was for sale and let someone test drive it. Don't know what happened beyond that update from the police, but he was endangering not only my life, but several others that morning.

I have a baby in the car many times I am driving and I don't care if you are in a hurry, I'm not going to join idiots in driving like them. If I'm in their way, too bad, I'm the one abiding by the law and trying to protect my family.

I'm with you in having a very low tolerance for impatient jerks on the road.


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