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[quote=Beemnseven;592491]From 2001-2007, there were no offensive linemen picked in the first three rounds of the draft. That's a pattern. And not a winning one I might add.[/quote]

Thats a good observation, I might add

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[quote=Beemnseven;592491]From 2001-2007, there were no offensive linemen picked in the first three rounds of the draft. That's a pattern. And not a winning one I might add.[/quote]
They drafted Dockery in 2003 in the third

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see my edit -- still, that's obviously not enough

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[quote=Beemnseven;592502]see my edit -- still, that's obviously not enough[/quote]
Well, I understand your rant, but the Redskins under Gibbs chose to build through trades and free agency. Now that Vinny is doing most of the decisions, that may change. Just look at how much progress has been made in two years. Not to bash Gibbs, but he just did not believe in youth, he believed in vets.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;592509]Well, I understand your rant, but the Redskins under Gibbs chose to build through trades and free agency. Now that Vinny is doing most of the decisions, that may change. Just look at how much progress has been made in two years. Not to bash Gibbs, but he just did not believe in youth, he believed in vets.[/quote]

Good post. I know this is blasphemy but Gibbs seemed to want to hold on to these aging lineman.

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Wrong, when Gibbs came over Samuels and Dockery were young, Rabach,Thomas were fairly young FA, Jansen was the elder player if that's what you want to call a player in his mid 20's.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592534]Wrong, when Gibbs came over Samuels and Dockery were young, Rabach,Thomas were fairly young FA, Jansen was the elder player if that's what you want to call a player in his mid 20's.[/quote]
Ray Brown, Jason Fabini, Pete Kendell, and Todd Wade were all washed up veterans that played for him.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;592543]Ray Brown, Jason Fabini, and Todd Wade were all washed up veterans that played for him.[/quote]

I don't recall them to be starters with the exception of Brown, can you say veteran backups?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592549]I don't recall them to be starters with the exception of Brown, can you say veteran backups?[/quote]
Can you say old as crap or Pete Kendall. If you see what I said, was we have a youngster to go in and play guard.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;592509]Well, I understand your rant, but the Redskins under Gibbs chose to build through trades and free agency. Now that Vinny is doing most of the decisions, that may change. [B]Just look at how much progress has been made in two years.[/B] Not to bash Gibbs, but he just did not believe in youth, he believed in vets.[/quote]

Progress? ehh... if we'd have had this year's 2nd and 6th round picks instead of Jason Taylor's 2.5 sacks last year, I might agree.

Gibbs' only concern was winning right now, so much so that he mortgaged the team's future to do it. A 2nd for Portis, a 3rd for Brunell, a 3rd and 4th for Duckett, a 3rd and a 4th for Lloyd ...

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[quote=Beemnseven;592556]Progress? ehh... if we'd have had this year's 2nd and 6th round picks instead of Jason Taylor's 2.5 sacks last year, I might agree.

Gibbs' only concern was winning right now, so much so that he mortgaged the team's future to do it. [B]A 2nd for Portis, a 3rd for Brunell, a 3rd and 4th for Duckett, a 3rd and a 4th for Lloyd[/B] ...[/quote]

Well all these things have put us in a hole, but in the past year or so we've been doing our best to get out of it.

Well anyway, let's not stray from the point of this thread or the discussion...who is an option for the team to pick up now that they've lost Randy Thomas?

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[quote=Beemnseven;592556]Progress? ehh... if we'd have had this year's 2nd and 6th round picks instead of Jason Taylor's 2.5 sacks last year, I might agree.

Gibbs' only concern was winning right now, so much so that he mortgaged the team's future to do it. A 2nd for Portis, a 3rd for Brunell, a 3rd and 4th for Duckett, a 3rd and a 4th for Lloyd ...[/quote]

How do you know it was Gibbs and not Snyder and Cerrato? Why does the blame go to Gibbs. Are you guys that pissed? Pick on George Allen or Jack Pardee or something else.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592563]How do you know it was Gibbs and not Snyder and Cerrato? Why does the blame go to Gibbs. Are you guys that pissed? Pick on George Allen or Jack Pardee.[/quote]
I would not call it blame, I am just pointing out why we did not have Linemen drafted. I look at Gibbs second stint as fairly successful. Two playoff appearances made me very happy, considering we had only been to one since he left.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592563]How do you know it was Gibbs and not Snyder and Cerrato? Why does the blame go to Gibbs. Are you guys that pissed? Pick on George Allen or Jack Pardee or something else.[/quote]

We don't know for a fact that was Gibbs or Snyder or Cerrato....but whatever, back to the discussion ok?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592563]How do you know it was Gibbs and not Snyder and Cerrato? Why does the blame go to Gibbs. Are you guys that pissed? Pick on George Allen or Jack Pardee or something else.[/quote]

Gibbs was team president.

Look, I love the guy for what he did, 1.0 and 2.0, but it's clear he wasn't concerned about building the team for the future. His one and only objective was to start winning the day he came in, and draft picks were his currency.

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We should not sign someone; we use what we have.. Rinehart has shown he could do it in the preseason.. He just needs some experience.. We have Montgomery, also.. Use one whichever plays better.. This would give the player and Heyer to gell together, then they would be able to play together for long time, which will be helpful to our O-line..

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[quote=GridIron26;592608]We should not sign someone; we use what we have.. Rinehart has shown he could do it in the preseason.. He just needs some experience.. We have Montgomery, also.. Use one whichever plays better.. This would give the player and Heyer to gell together, then they would be able to play together for long time, which will be helpful to our O-line..[/quote]

I would say sign someone as a back and give the nod to Rinehart or Montgomery.

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We should sign Lou Groza...he's younger than Favre, whom the Vikes signed.

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[quote=Lotus;592612]We should sign Lou Groza...he's younger than Favre, whom the Vikes signed.[/quote]

Ray Brown baby!! LOL.

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Being an impartial observer I must say that the Skins should have signed Leonard Davis when they had the chance.

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This is what I could find not sure if it's current;

[B]OG:[/B][url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=6]Scout.com: 2009 NFL Free Agency OG Rankings[/url]

[B]OT:[/B][url=http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=12&yr=2009&nid=83&lnid=83&rc=16&pid=3]Scout.com: 2009 NFL Free Agency OT Rankings[/url]

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[quote=Dirtbag359;592616]Being an impartial observer I must say that the Skins should have signed Leonard Davis when they had the chance.[/quote]

But but but, we need to build through the draft!! LOL.

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I'm 100% positive they bring in Pete Kendell.. He already knows the offense for the most part. It's a given.. We can't rely on Montgomery for alteast another year imo

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Remember we added the baller whathisname that Seattle cut to our practice squad.

Rinehart will be a good replacement, our gameday actives will stay the same(Rinehart in place of Thomas), and we will activate someone off our practice squad.

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[quote=Ruhskins;592618]But but but, we need to build through the draft!! LOL.[/quote]

Ruhskins I must admit I was lost. But then Brother Jerry came to me and said "give me all your money and you to can be saved." I might be broke, humiliated, and miserable but I can assure you I've never been so happy in my life.

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Seriously Dirtbag how long do you have to have that abomination as your avatar? It's just so wrong

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[quote=Bucket;592619]I'm 100% positive they bring in Pete Kendell.. He already knows the offense for the most part. It's a given.. We can't rely on Montgomery for alteast another year imo[/quote]

I could see that. I would rather see Rinehart or Montgomery step up. If Rinehart isn't ready by now then he should be let go.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;592622]Seriously Dirtbag how long do you have to have that abomination as your avatar? It's just so wrong[/quote]

Happiness is not wrong Brother C. Hopefully you'll get a chance to meet Brother Jerry but he's to busy right now trying to get the NFL to stop cheating and give the Rightous Desert Riders the win over the little tikes.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;592622]Seriously Dirtbag how long do you have to have that abomination as your avatar? It's just so wrong[/quote]

I know, WTF Dirtbag?

What's up CRedskinsRule?

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Now while I'm selling my soul how many of you would like to sign up for the United Socialist Workers Party?

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Dirtbag, we may have to call for an exorcism. It just aint right

Trample, Just trying to enjoy the last bits of Sunday, both games had the right ending, but I wanted more scoring in our game, and a lot less in the other one.

But I had a real good day, how about you.

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Sucks for Thomas but I am actually looking forward to seeing some younger players get a shot. That's the league...guys go down and young players need to step up. If Montgomery (or Rhinehart) performs well and grabs ahold of a starting OG spot then that will be one less need next offseason...

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[quote=NYCSkin;592631]Sucks for Thomas but I am actually looking forward to seeing some younger players get a shot. That's the league...guys go down and young players need to step up. If Montgomery (or Rhinehart) performs well and grabs ahold of a starting OG spot then that will be one less need next offseason...[/quote]

Could be a blessing in disguise.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;592228]Can you say Alex Mack? He would have been an excellent addition.[/quote]

You know I was just thinking that. Mack plays guard and center too. Do you remember all the flack we got when we said we should have drafted him. Ah but he's not a first rounder. We don't need another center. BS!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;592630]Dirtbag, we may have to call for an exorcism. It just aint right

Trample, Just trying to enjoy the last bits of Sunday, both games had the right ending, but I wanted more scoring in our game, and a lot less in the other one.

But I had a real good day, how about you.[/quote]

I'm good. It was hard rooting for the Giants tonight, but I root for the Skins and whoever is playing the girls.

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Yeah, hard to really "root" for them, but I wanted the grand opening to be spoiled so that made it easier.

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Montgomery was good run blocking and struggled a time or two pass blocking.

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The only thing better than a Cowgirls loss is a Redskins win. We got both today.

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;592634]You know I was just thinking that. Mack plays guard and center too. Do you remember all the flack we got when we said we should have drafted him. Ah but he's not a first rounder. We don't need another center. BS![/quote]

No disrespect to Orakpo but we should have traded down, picked up Mack and and DE with the other pick. I guess it made too much sense.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;592627]Now while I'm selling my soul how many of you would like to sign up for the United Socialist Workers Party?[/quote]

Just let me know where to come and I'll bring a molotov cocktail.