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CRedskinsRule 11-20-2009 08:46 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;627856]I'm getting so sick of reading all this shit about Miles Austin. Can anyone say Ashley Lelie? He had a few good games and a sick YPC, but then he fell off the radar. He was playing over his head for a few games, but you don't all of a sudden just "get it" after that many years in the league.[/quote]

I don't know, I understand what you are saying, but he was behind TO for most of those years. I think if anyone player will impact this game for dallas' side it will be either Austin or FJones. I really wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of last week, where Austin/Jones burns us early and then we re-work the defensive game plan and shut them down. If anyone can tell me why our D can't just shut teams down from the gitgo I would love to hear that.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-20-2009 08:50 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;627857]I don't know, I understand what you are saying, but he was behind TO for most of those years. I think if anyone player will impact this game for dallas' side it will be either Austin or FJones. I really wouldn't be surprised to see a repeat of last week, where Austin/Jones burns us early and then we re-work the defensive game plan and shut them down. If anyone can tell me why our D can't just shut teams down from the gitgo I would love to hear that.[/quote]

I can see that but it wasn't like he didn't get his looks. I mean he never really produced even when he got looks WITH TO there.

sandtrapjack 11-20-2009 08:56 AM

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Well I am glad I have field level seats on the sidelines, at least I will get to see the Redskins offense in person.

If I had end zone seats, I'd never get to see them. :):silly:

53Fan 11-20-2009 09:04 AM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;627860]Well I am glad I have field level seats on the sidelines, at least I will get to see the Redskins offense in person.

[B]If I had end zone seats, I'd never get to see them[/B]. :):silly:[/quote]

You must be talking about how Green Bay fans felt last week about Dallas.

freddyg12 11-20-2009 09:29 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;627856]I'm getting so sick of reading all this shit about Miles Austin. Can anyone say Ashley Lelie? He had a few good games and a sick YPC, but then he fell off the radar. He was playing over his head for a few games, but you don't all of a sudden just "get it" after that many years in the league.[/quote]

Lelie was just a deep threat, same way austin has done his damage. I don't know how well he does in the middle of the field, slants, etc. Seems like GB just took away the deep threat w/the safeties & put Woodson on Witten. We'll see how dallas responds to last week, I expect em to try to get austin involved on some quick screens & short stuff early to set up the dreaded double move. Let's hope CR doesn't bite!

Monkeydad 11-20-2009 09:33 AM

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[B]DallasCowboys.com - Injury Report[/B] [I]
[B]Updated November 19, 2009[/B]

Washington Redskins

RB Ladell Betts (concussion - [B]full participation[/B])
TE Chris Cooley (ankle - out)
DT Albert Haynesworth (ankle - did not participate)
T Stephen Heyer (knee - limited participation)
RB Clinton Portis (concussion - did not participate)
T Mike Williams (ankle - did not participate)

Dallas Cowboys

S Ken Hamlin - ankle (11/15) Hamlin suffered a high ankle sprain against the Packers and will miss 2-4 weeks. [U]Alan Ball will replace him at free safety[/U] beginning Sunday against the Redskins.

CB Mike Jenkins - elbow (11/15) Jenkins sustained a deep biceps contusion against the Packers. He tried to return in the fourth quarter but left again in noticeable pain. But the starting corner has practiced fully this week, and head coach Wade Phillips said Jenkins looked noticeably better on Thursday. Barring a setback, he's expected to start.

K David Buehler - toe (11/15) The rookie kickoff specialist kicked off Thursday with what he called a fractured right pinky toe. Phillips is optimistic Buehler, who's tied for third in the league in touchbacks (17), will be able to kick off against the Redskins. Phillips said Buehler likely would only kick off this week; [U]if not, place kicker Nick Folk will handle those duties for the first time since 2008[/U].

OT Marc Colombo - ankle (11/15) Colombo had surgery this week to repair ligaments after suffering a high ankle sprain against the Packers. He also fractured his fibula. There's a chance Colombo could return this season, but he will miss at least several weeks. [U]Doug Free will start in his place at right tackle. [/U]

KR/PR Allen Rossum - hamstring (10/25) The return specialist injured his hamstring on his first return against the Falcons and [U]will likely miss a fourth straight game against the Redskins[/U].

LB DeMarcus Ware - foot (10/21) The Pro Bowl linebacker is playing with a stress fracture in his foot, but amazingly it hasn't seemed to affect him in the last few games. He has had full practice participation again this week and is expected to start.

RB Marion Barber - thumb (10/21) - Barber has played the last several games with a fractured thumb and has had full participation again this week. Phillips also said Barber has gotten his "burst back" since recovering from a previous quadriceps strain.

S Gerald Sensabaugh - thumb (10/4) Wearing a cast on his surgically-repaired thumb, the starting strong safety has played the last several games without any major problems. He has had full practice participation again this week and is expected to start.

Injured Reserve:
LB Brandon Williams (torn ACL)
LB Stephen Hodge (knee)

Non-Active PUP:
OL Robert Brewster (torn pectoral muscle) [/I]

Lotus 11-20-2009 09:34 AM

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[quote=sandtrapjack;627860]Well I am glad I have field level seats on the sidelines, at least I will get to see the Redskins offense in person.

[B]If I had end zone seats, I'd never get to see them.[/B] :):silly:[/quote]

That's only because the Jerry-tron would be blocking your view.

53Fan 11-20-2009 09:38 AM

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Nice update Buster. I'd like to see Jarmon get some time at RDE against Doug Free.

Ruhskins 11-20-2009 09:49 AM

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Why do they have Betts listed as having a concussion? I thought he had an ankle injury?

freddyg12 11-20-2009 10:57 AM

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[quote=Ruhskins;627898]Why do they have Betts listed as having a concussion? I thought he had an ankle injury?[/quote]

yeah, I hope that's a misprint

PennSkinsFan 11-20-2009 11:02 AM

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Now that Portis is officially out, Redskins by 1-3 points.

tryfuhl 11-20-2009 03:40 PM

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[quote=SkinDogg;627398]Here we go.

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKCvtoFqWOQ"]YouTube - Redskins vs. Cowboys Miracle Finishes[/URL][/quote]
I cheese every freaking time I watch these endings haha

Hog1 11-20-2009 03:56 PM

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[quote=tryfuhl;628002]I cheese every freaking time I watch these endings haha[/quote]
It was an incredible day...no doubt.
MAN..........how I miss ST. There is absolutely no way to know how good he would be today?

Son Of Man 11-20-2009 04:21 PM

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"My prediction for the fight...PAIN!" -Clubber Lang

TheMalcolmConnection 11-20-2009 04:24 PM

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[quote=Son Of Man;628013]"My prediction for the fight...PAIN!" -Clubber Lang[/quote]

My line.

cdskins26 11-20-2009 05:07 PM

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I dont know why but I think we have them. Campbell plays fine, betts carries the load and we win:
Redskins 19
Cowboys 14

mlmdub130 11-20-2009 05:17 PM

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[quote=cdskins26;628028]I dont know why but I think we have them. Campbell plays fine, betts carries the load and we win:
Redskins 19
Cowboys 14[/quote]

just out of curiousity how did you end up with 19? an s load of fg's or a safety?

diesl44 11-20-2009 07:23 PM

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Boys 34 Skins 13 ....we shot our load last week that was an aberration..now its back to reality

warpaint 11-20-2009 08:01 PM

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[quote=diesl44;628055]Boys 34 Skins 13...now its back to reality[/quote]

Reality is that we r moving in the right direction... In our path is the cowboys our biggest game of the year, we need the win and we get what we need.

mlmdub130 11-20-2009 08:30 PM

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[quote=warpaint;628061]Reality is that we r moving in the right direction... In our path is the cowboys our biggest game of the year, we need the win and [B]we get what we need[/B].[/quote]

a new front office?

TheMalcolmConnection 11-20-2009 08:33 PM

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[quote=diesl44;628055]Boys 34 Skins 13 ....we shot our load last week that was an aberration..now its back to reality[/quote]

K! Sooooooooooo, tell me in detail how the Cowboys score thirty-four points.

rbanerjee23 11-20-2009 08:38 PM

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I dont think the boys will put up that many points against the skins

warpaint 11-20-2009 08:52 PM

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[quote=mlmdub130;628064]a new front office?[/quote]

I sure hope so.

Beemnseven 11-21-2009 08:14 AM

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I just don't see how our secondary can keep up with their receivers. Their defense is pretty good too. All they have to do is put the lock down on our running game and we're done for.

Dallas 23, Skins 10

Beemnseven 11-21-2009 08:16 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;628065]K! Sooooooooooo, tell me in detail how the Cowboys score thirty-four points.[/quote]

Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten vs. DeAngelo Hall, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot and Justin Tryon.

Let's try to think objectively here...

CRedskinsRule 11-21-2009 11:03 AM

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[quote=Beemnseven;628116]Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten vs. DeAngelo Hall, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot and Justin Tryon.

Let's try to think objectively here...[/quote]

fair enough, objectively speaking when was the last time dallas receivers had a big day against us? We shut them down both games last year (it was their running in the second game that got us). IF dallas wins, it will not be their receivers that do it, but their running game.

Edit: In the first game last year Romo threw for 3 tds, 1 Int, and 300 yards, and they lost. In the 2nd game Romo had 1 td, 2 int's, and 160 yds, and the won. We will not get beat because of their passing game, but if Garrett is smart enough to try and pound it, then we will have a closer game.

rbanerjee23 11-21-2009 11:46 AM

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Im just hoping that Rak and Carter introduce themselves to Mr. Romo a couple of times this sunday

mlmdub130 11-21-2009 01:24 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;628126]fair enough, objectively speaking when was the last time dallas receivers had a big day against us? We shut them down both games last year (it was their running in the second game that got us). IF dallas wins, it will not be their receivers that do it, but their running game.

Edit: In the first game last year Romo threw for 3 tds, 1 Int, and 300 yards, and they lost. In the 2nd game Romo had 1 td, 2 int's, and 160 yds, and the won. We will not get beat because of their passing game, but if Garrett is smart enough to try and pound it, then we will have a closer game.[/quote]

we haven't seen austin as a starting receiver yet though, as much as i think he looks like a retarded horse, i think he is a legit receiver and was hoping he would leave dallas before they found out

but on the ohter hand smoot and hall did really shut down the denver o while orton was still in, in the first half last week

TheMalcolmConnection 11-21-2009 03:11 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;628116]Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten vs. DeAngelo Hall, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot and Justin Tryon.

Let's try to think objectively here...[/quote]

If I'm not an avid Cowboy hater, I only would be able to recognize ONE of the above.

TheMalcolmConnection 11-21-2009 03:11 PM

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Seriously, you listed Crayton, Austin and Williams?! LOL

TheBigDaddy 11-21-2009 05:04 PM

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Skins 9
CowGirls 24

And I hope that I am wrong.

warpaint 11-21-2009 06:01 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;628116]Roy Williams, Miles Austin, Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten vs. DeAngelo Hall, Carlos Rogers, Fred Smoot and Justin Tryon.

Let's try to think objectively here...[/quote]

I beleave we have us a Cowboys Sympathizer here.

Beemnseven 11-21-2009 06:25 PM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;628160]Seriously, you listed Crayton, Austin and Williams?! LOL[/quote]

Do you have amnesia or something? Do you not remember Brandon Marshall running 15 yards free in our secondary just last week?

CRedskinsRule 11-21-2009 07:35 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;628167]Do you have amnesia or something? Do you not remember Brandon Marshall running 15 yards free in our secondary just last week?[/quote]

For whatever reason, our D ALWAYS starts slow, but it is rare that the D doesn't "get it". One or two big plays don't make or break a game, and I also remember Moss running free in their secondary. The game is 60 minutes, last week, we played 60 minutes for the first time in a long time. If we do that tomorrow, I firmly believe we will win.

53Fan 11-21-2009 07:35 PM

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[quote=Beemnseven;628167]Do you have amnesia or something? Do you not remember Brandon Marshall running 15 yards free in our secondary just last week?[/quote]

#1 There is nobody on the Cowgirls even close to Brandon Marshall.
#2 Our secondary doesn't have amnesia and I seriously doubt we'll blow converages like that 2 weeks in a row.
#3 Rogers might not start or even play.

htownskinfan 11-21-2009 07:38 PM

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if Haynesworth plays the whole game then i think we might have a chance,if he doesnt play we lose,thats my prediction

53Fan 11-21-2009 07:43 PM

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#4 It's hard to throw the ball while sitting on your ass. :woot:

53Fan 11-21-2009 08:06 PM

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I just noticed "Brokeback Mountain" is playing on Bravo. Kind of ironic for them to play it on the eve of the Cowgirls game.

GTripp0012 11-21-2009 08:07 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;628172]For whatever reason, our D ALWAYS starts slow, but it is rare that the D doesn't "get it". One or two big plays don't make or break a game, and I also remember Moss running free in their secondary. The game is 60 minutes, last week, we played 60 minutes for the first time in a long time. If we do that tomorrow, I firmly believe we will win.[/quote]If Orton had hit the open Royal in the second quarter though, the improvement in the second half wouldn't have mattered. It's one thing to bench Rogers for blowing a man coverage responsibility, but once Hall and Kareem Moore both made the same mistake, I think it's too far into the season to write it off as early game jitters.

Part of me wants to think that once the secondary adjusts to actually having a reliable pass rush, their play will improve, but I've been concerned about this group since the preseason, and I'm worried that facing a lot of simplistic passing games has really masked major deficiencies.

I think our D has been average going back to the start of last year, but I get the feeling that we're not going to stay average anymore. Either the strength of our pass rush propels the defense back towards the top of the league, and we make a playoff push in the second half, or a thinning secondary forces us into more basic coverages, and teams with vertical threats absolutely expose us.

I'm willing to bet that we take away Dallas' run game and either make Romo look really, really terrible, or he has a record day against our secondary if he doesn't. And, well, it's getting closer to December, so perhaps we have that going for us.

GTripp0012 11-21-2009 08:11 PM

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I'll say this: Landry's really getting dangerously close to becoming a game-changing player against the pass, as he's diagnosing routes much, much faster (which was his problem--he's always been fleet of foot) and starting to gamble and jump on plays. Combined with a really strong pass rush, I would not be shocked at all if there was a turnover explosion in the second half that leads to the team being able to average 24-26 PPG over the second half.

No word on whether he's ever going to learn how to tackle properly though.


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