Hey JoeCrisp, haven't heard from you in a while? Can you do us a favor and set ZachMills straight. This kid doesn't understand who Joe Gibbs is and what he has done for the Washington Redskin organization. He seems to be a quick fix guy. Doesn't understand the concept of good things come to those who wait. Maybe you can help this kid see what so many of us on this board all ready sees.

or even better, don't waste your time and hope he goes away to troll some other forum.

Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much this week. I broke my right ring finger playing flag football on Monday night, so it's been kind of hard to post anything, since my typing skills are somewhat hindered for the time being.

As far as the attacks on Joe Gibbs, I obviously strongly disagree with the assertions that Gibbs is no longer a capable coach. But it's good to have a few voices in the forum that keep the perspective balanced, and provide fuel for healthy debate. There are plenty of younger guys on this board that were a little too young to fully experience the first Gibbs era. Heck, I was pretty young myself when Joe Gibbs began his Redskins coaching career, but by the last 4 or 5 years of his first tenure, I had a pretty good understanding of the qualities that made Joe Gibbs a championship coach and ultimately, a Hall of Famer.

As time wore on throughout the dismal years following Gibbs' retirement, like many mournful fans, I often revisited my fond memories of the Gibbs era, and studied the differences between Gibbs and the procession of coaches that have tried and failed to re-create the attitude, environment and culture of winning that Gibbs established over the course of his 12 seasons with the Redskins. The failures of the past 12 years have set in bold relief the prominent characteristics of perseverance, determination, dedication, strength of will, and an unwavering devotion to a winning philosophy that defined Gibbs' coaching career, as well as those of fellow Hall of Famers like Lombardi, Noll and Walsh-- alongside which Gibbs' bust resides in Canton.

It's important to note that all of those qualities are indicative of overcoming adversity, opposition, resistance, controversy, indecisiveness, weakness and failure. Thus, when these qualities are conferred upon someone, it's a reference not only to the greatness of their achievement, but also a testament to the great adversity which they conquered along the way. Joe Gibbs' enshrinement among the gods of football is a tribute to the trials and tribulations that he endured along the path to greatness. The true measure of a man is how far he ascends from where he began. Joe Gibbs began at 0-5. And thus, at 2-5, he begins again.

There will be more struggles and losses and controversies along the way. Joe Gibbs' devotion to Mark Brunell is but the first sign of his resolution to endure such suffering on the path to success, to persevere in what he believes is right, despite the shadow of doubt and controversy that looms over him. Perhaps Gibbs made the wrong decision, maybe he chose the wrong path. But it's clear that he is willing to stand by his decision and suffer the consequences, and navigate through this course of opposition and adversity. It's a journey that will test the will of those around him, but ultimately, will forge the character of this team in the likeness of its coach...

...Judging by where that likeness resides, I'd say this team is bound for good things-- no matter how bumpy the ride might be right now.

:biggthump Thanks Joe..

Classic Joe C....awesome! :thumb:

You know, I really hate to beat a dead horse. All week I thought that the call on James Thrash was inconsistant, although correct. I dont know how many people check out extremeskins, but theres a guy that posts video clips of the weeks games. I downloaed them today and watched that Portis play. I was dead wrong, about that being a right but inconsistant call. I will gaurntee you, that you cannot find a single offical on any level that can look you in the eye and say that James Thrash was moving forward. He is so clearly set, that it makes me sick. Check it out if you have time.

PS:That smirk on Tom Whites face.. :stop:

Its Thursday and I'm still not over this BS

[QUOTE=Gmanc711]You know, I really hate to beat a dead horse. All week I thought that the call on James Thrash was inconsistant, although correct. I dont know how many people check out extremeskins, but theres a guy that posts video clips of the weeks games. I downloaed them today and watched that Portis play. I was dead wrong, about that being a right but inconsistant call. I will gaurntee you, that you cannot find a single offical on any level that can look you in the eye and say that James Thrash was moving forward. He is so clearly set, that it makes me sick. Check it out if you have time.
[/QUOTE]

its not that he was moving forward. it was that he wasn't still for a full SECOND. yeah, big stretch.

[QUOTE=joecrisp]Hey guys, sorry I haven't been around much this week. I broke my right ring finger playing flag football on Monday night, so it's been kind of hard to post anything, since my typing skills are somewhat hindered for the time being..[/QUOTE]

How about Joe Crisp? The guy is typing with a friggin stick taped to his forehead and he manages another great article.

What a trooper. :biggthump

[QUOTE=RedskinRat]How about Joe Crisp? The guy is typing with a friggin stick taped to his forehead and he manages another great article.

What a trooper. :biggthump[/QUOTE]


Yeah Joe Crisp is like the Brett Favre of the Warpath..

[QUOTE=joecrisp]


It's important to note that all of those qualities are indicative of overcoming adversity, opposition, resistance, controversy, indecisiveness, weakness and failure. Thus, when these qualities are conferred upon someone, it's a reference not only to the greatness of their achievement, but also a testament to the great adversity which they conquered along the way. Joe Gibbs' enshrinement among the gods of football is a tribute to the trials and tribulations that he endured along the path to greatness. The true measure of a man is how far he ascends from where he began. Joe Gibbs began at 0-5. And thus, at 2-5, he begins again.

[/QUOTE]

Thanks JoeCrips, really sorry to hear about your finger. Hey ZachMills, read what JoeCrips wrote carefully so you can understand why most of us here are not ready and/or will not jump ship as long as Gibbs is our coach. I understand that you have a right to voice your opinion, so go ahead and do so but at least now, thanks to JoeCrisp's words you can seen why we aren't giving up.

By the way Zack, how old are you?

[QUOTE]By the way Zack, how old are you?[/QUOTE]

I already answered that question :iamwithst

[QUOTE]Thanks JoeCrips, really sorry to hear about your finger. Hey ZachMills, read what JoeCrips wrote carefully so you can understand why most of us here are not ready and/or will not jump ship as long as Gibbs is our coach. I understand that you have a right to voice your opinion, so go ahead and do so but at least now, thanks to JoeCrisp's words you can seen why we aren't giving up.[/QUOTE]

It's "Zack." :Smoker:

Ok. So, you're 20. You don't know shit about Gibbs then.

Come talk shit when you grow up.

lol easy now, let's not dogpile on zach

Dogpile!!!!!

[QUOTE=ZackMills]two words:

Gibbs sucks[/QUOTE] :doh:
I just hope your saying that next year when Gibbs is kicking some ass ZACK! :nono:

[QUOTE]I just hope your saying that next year when Gibbs is kicking some ass ZACK! [/QUOTE]

Bold statement: Gibbs won't take this team to the playoffs in his tenure. :Smoker: :Smoker: ...he's taking this team now the proverbial :Flush:

[QUOTE=Riggo44]:doh:
I just hope your saying that next year when Gibbs is kicking some ass ZACK! :nono:[/QUOTE]

It won't matter, we still won't be listening to him.

just ignore him like i do guys, i can't see anything he says ;)