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Don't think of Sproles as a replacement for Alridge, but more as a replacement for Betts

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^^Could include Rock and ARE in there as well smoot?

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Thats what I was thinking. Betts could still have a place on this team with Sproels. ARE and Rock would serve no purpose whatsoever.

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[quote=johno;668161]sproles has proven that he can play in the nfl. aldridge is a fumble machine. until he can be trusted to hold onto the ball, i would rather have sproles.[/quote]

Agreed... Sproles is a proven guy, Alridge at this point is nothing more than a camp scrub.

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how many more "good years" should Sproles have left? I cant think more than 3, but I guess it would depend on how we used him. it'll be really interesting what kind of contract he gets.

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Sproles isn't a pound between the tackles guy and has alot less wear and tear than alot of the other guys. I would think as a third down back he could last for awhile.

I agree Matty that Aldrige is a camp scrub. I would much rather have DS than Aldridge who is very fumble prone.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;668198]how many more "good years" should Sproles have left? I cant think more than 3, but I guess it would depend on how we used him. it'll be really interesting what kind of contract he gets.[/quote]

He's only 26 right now

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Year before last when Sproles led the Chargers to that playoff run I was completely impressed. The one thing we have lacked is a true, home run hitter, big play guy...a guy that opposing D cordinators have to game plan for. Santana Moss was that guy bout 3-4 years ago, and we have had solid, dependable guys like CP, Cooley, but no serious threats. DT may be that guy, but that is POTENTIAL, Sproles is the man, to answer the question BHA above I think 4 years minimum.

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[quote=Mattyk;668204]He's only 26 right now[/quote]

I would like to have Sproles in the backfield because I assume the Portis era is done after this year. I hope that they let Betts go this year.

I know that Shanny has a history of turning nobodies into somebodies but I would like to have at least one somebody as an option in the backfield.

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Chico^ Darren is much like Maurice Jones-Drew in Jacksonville. A guy who can take it the distance when the right play is called. I totally agree that this O needs home run hitters. DS gives us that instantly. The Offense needs playmakers in the worst kind of way.

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[quote=Mattyk;668204]He's only 26 right now[/quote]

i'm not so much concerned about his age in of itself, but the fact that running backs typically have short NFL careers (most are declining by 30) and he's really really small running back, so that should shorten his career even more. if he's used in more than 10 plays a game, i can see him being essentially useless in 3 years.

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I'll take 3 years of Sproles in his prime. That helps bridge the gap between the current corp of RB's and the next "franchise back" who shows up.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;668218]i'm not so much concerned about his age in of itself, but the fact that running backs typically have short NFL careers (most are declining by 30) and he's really really small running back, so that should shorten his career even more. if he's used in more than 10 plays a game, i can see him being essentially useless in 3 years.[/quote]

It's not like he's going to be a full time 25 carries per game kind of back so I'm not sure you can compare him directly to that type of back. He's a 10-15 touches per game out of the backfield kind of guy. He's definitely in his prime [U]right now[/U], personally I wouldn't hesitate to make him an offer.

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^ The thing we all have to remember with a guy like sproles is he is not a Full time back. The guy isn't going to be pounding it up the miccle pay in and play out. He will get at a min 30% of his touches through the air. And when he is taking the ball from the qb he is out in space. MS could do some nice things with this guy.

We need CP/ Ganther to be the pounder and DS to be the change of pace.

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I really hope we can do better than Ganther. He's very limited, a borderline #3 type to me.

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[quote=Mattyk;668252]I really hope we can do better than Ganther. He's very limited, a borderline #3 type to me.[/quote]

I definitely agree. I would rather have Betts and Aldridge over Ganther. (Still hope that Betts is gone...)

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[quote=Mattyk;668226]It's not like he's going to be a full time 25 carries per game kind of back so I'm not sure you can compare him directly to that type of back. He's a 10-15 touches per game out of the backfield kind of guy. He's definitely in his prime [U]right now[/U], personally I wouldn't hesitate to make him an offer.[/quote]

oh, i wouldnt either, and I really hope we sign him... i just dont think he's worth as much as we'll probably pay him. and i think if we pay him like a #1 RB, then he's going to be used more than he ever has been before.

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I hope he doesn't get crazy $$ from us. Not for a 3rd down/situational type of guy. It should be interesting to see how free agency plays out, because I don't see Allen tossing around money like Snyder used to.

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[quote=Mattyk;668264]I hope he doesn't get crazy $$ from us. Not for a 3rd down/situational type of guy. It should be interesting to see how free agency plays out, because I don't see Allen tossing around money like Snyder used to.[/quote]
The Broncos in 2001 set a team record payroll record with 102 million(maybe we broke it again). Shanahan will spend, and Allen was handcuffed by cheap owners.

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Al Davis isn't what I would call cheap owner.

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[quote=Mattyk;668270]Al Davis isn't what I would call cheap owner.[/quote]

I was talking about Tampa's owners.

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And even when Allen was in Oakland, he wasn't making the decisions, so Oakland is really irrelevant.

I wish the NFL could do something about teams like Tampa though. Theyre so cheap its disgusting.

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i dont think sproles had a great year last year stat wise. didnt he avg 3.5 yds or something per carry. less than 700 yds?

imo id pass on sproles and look at chester taylor.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;668272]I was talking about Tampa's owners.[/quote]

As I've alluded to before they're not so much cheap as much as they are maxed out financially. For goodness sake they own and NFL franchise and the second most recognizable soccer franchise in the world in Manchester United with a 700 Million Euro debt.

However they should have strongly considered this situation before they bought Man U. If I were them I would sell the Buc's and focus on Man U.

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[quote=over the mountain;668294]i dont think sproles had a great year last year stat wise. didnt he avg 3.5 yds or something per carry. less than 700 yds?

imo id pass on sproles and look at chester taylor.[/quote]

He had 343 yard rushing, 497 receiving, 1300 on kick returns, and 183 on punt returns. You don't think we could use 2323 all purpose yards?

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[quote=Dirtbag359;668318]As I've alluded to before they're not so much cheap as much as they are maxed out financially. For goodness sake they own and NFL franchise and the second most recognizable soccer franchise in the world in Manchester United with a 700 Million Euro debt.

However they should have strongly considered this situation before they bought Man U. If I were them I would sell the Buc's and focus on Man U.[/quote]

Yup. When I get bummed about my own crushing personal debt, I thank my lucky stars that I'm not more than a billion dollars in debt, as the Glazers are. Yikes.

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[quote=over the mountain;668294]i dont think sproles had a great year last year stat wise. didnt he avg 3.5 yds or something per carry. less than 700 yds?

imo id pass on sproles and look at chester taylor.[/quote]

I would prefer Sproles, but Chester Taylor would be my second pick to fill #2 RB...but I think after OLine our biggest need is at RB. We are getting old their and injury prone, sounds like our OLine issue bout 3 years ago and we never addressed it...then the bottom fell out

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[quote=Mattyk;668320]He had 343 yard rushing, 497 receiving, 1300 on kick returns, and 183 on punt returns. You don't think we could use 2323 all purpose yards?[/quote]

are we going to pay him special teams money?

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/03/03/free.agents/index.html?xid=si_nfl]Where Julius Peppers, Darren Sproles, NFL free agents will sign - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

Lovely quote from an unnamed NFL executive:
[QUOTE]Washington will throw money around like it's playing Monopoly

[/QUOTE]Supports what I mentioned about Shanny showing he's free spender in his own right.

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[quote=over the mountain;668350]are we going to pay him special teams money?[/quote]

I would expect we would sign him to a 4 year deal, I know if franchised he would have gotten 7 Mill, so probably something along the line of 10-13 guaranteed. of course I really have 0 way of knowing and am purely speculating based on what he is gonna want.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;668390][url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/03/03/free.agents/index.html?xid=si_nfl]Where Julius Peppers, Darren Sproles, NFL free agents will sign - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

Lovely quote from an unnamed NFL executive:
Supports what I mentioned about Shanny showing he's free spender in his own right.[/quote]

Decent point.. It may be Shanahan operating 'business as usual' because he was never shy about spending Bowlen's money!

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;668390][url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/don_banks/03/03/free.agents/index.html?xid=si_nfl]Where Julius Peppers, Darren Sproles, NFL free agents will sign - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

Lovely quote from an unnamed NFL executive:
Supports what I mentioned about Shanny showing he's free spender in his own right.[/quote]

See this is some of the crap I hate reading...and well our team has had a horrible history to set themselves up for things like, but with that being said, why should Sproles sign with the Eagles?

The Redskins had a terrible offense last season, they have a terrible punt/kick return game, and don't have a change of pace back. They need someone like Sproles to fill this role much more than the Eagles would need him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;668555]See this is some of the crap I hate reading...and well our team has had a horrible history to set themselves up for things like, but with that being said, why should Sproles sign with the Eagles?

The Redskins had a terrible offense last season, they have a terrible punt/kick return game, and don't have a change of pace back. They need someone like Sproles to fill this role much more than the Eagles would need him.[/quote]

More like Banks is a bonehead because the Iggles have no Super Bowls, McNabb tends to choke in the playoffs, they have an inconsistent offense, a playcaller who can't stop calling passes even if his life depended on it, and 3 KRs already on their depth chart.

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[quote=Ruhskins;668555]See this is some of the crap I hate reading...and well our team has had a horrible history to set themselves up for things like, but with that being said, why should Sproles sign with the Eagles?

The Redskins had a terrible offense last season, they have a terrible punt/kick return game, and don't have a change of pace back. They need someone like Sproles to fill this role much more than the Eagles would need him.[/quote]

to replace westbrook?

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FWIW-From John Kiem at the Washington Examiner:
Finally, I talked to one veteran offensive player who expects the Redskins to sign running back Darren Sproles. But that's just based on what he knows of what the Redskins want and what Sproles offers.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [url=http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports/blogs/redskins-confidential/Campbell-receives-first-round-tender-86267752.html#ixzz0hCrNHf7I]Campbell receives first-round tender | Washington Examiner[/url]

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Well we won't be getting sproles now...They tendered him for a first and a third. Chester Taylor here we come!

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Sproles is off the market -he's been tendered.