re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

[quote=Hog1;726206]According to Redskins.com it's Edwin Williams, Holmes, Dearth and Davis

[url=http://www.redskins.com/gen/articles/Redskins_Release_Williams__Holmes__Dearth__Holmes_149890.jsp]Redskins Release Williams, Holmes, Dearth, Davis[/url][/quote]

thanks for the update

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Thread title updated to reflect updated news

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Rinehart FTW!!!!!

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[quote=SmootSmack;726209]Thread title updated to reflect updated news[/quote]

SS...Hall Davis cut. How is the terms of that trade now consumated? Are there any more details forthcoming?

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[quote=Longtimefan;726220]SS...Hall Davis cut. How is the terms of that trade now consumated? Are there any more details forthcoming?[/quote]

We don't give up any pick. We get a pick if Morris makes the Rams (I believe all he has to do is make the team)

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

^

Correct.

Rams get nothing from us since we cut Davis...but if Morris makes the team, we get a compensatory 7th-round pick.

I'm a little surprised at Dearth making it over Sundburg with still no Red Snapper contact. Also, Edwin Williams because of his versatility to play all 3 positions on the line.

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Wow, I was sure that Williams had been our best back up O-Linemen. I was sure he would make the team. Infact, I thought that Dockery had better look out. Oh well, thats why I am not a football scout.

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Rinehart still needs to beat out Erik Cook for a roster spot, but I like his chances.

Probably only going to keep 8 OLmen at this point, figured this whole time that Williams would be the ninth. Lichtensteiger, Rinehart, and Heyer are the rostered backups. But Cook and Capers will certainly be on call in case of injury. I doubt Jamaal Brown is going to get through the entire season before going on IR, and if/when he does, Capers gets on the active roster.

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[quote=Buster;726229]^

Correct.

Rams get nothing from us since we cut Davis...but if Morris makes the team, we get a compensatory 7th-round pick.

I'm a little surprised at Dearth making it over Sundburg with still no Red Snapper contact. Also, Edwin Williams because of his versatility to play all 3 positions on the line.[/quote]

I think that Dearth was brought in to light a fire under Sundberg's tail and give him some pointers.

E. Williams is a bit interesting, however the current staff felt that his best value was at center but Rabach and Lichtensteiger were ahead of him and that he didn't play very well at guard against Buffalo. Of course trying out [URL="http://blog.redskins.com/2010/08/31/selvish-capers-to-see-some-time-at-guard/"]Selvish Capers at guard[/URL] reduced the amount of backup guards that could stay.

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

I'm guessing Williams may go on the PS, as might Hall. Not sure if the trade is still valid if we cut Hall and then put him on PS. I'm guessing no

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[url=http://blog.redskins.com/2010/08/31/selvish-capers-to-see-some-time-at-guard/]Selvish Capers To See Some Time At Guard[/url]

If Capers can make the transition then he might end up being a steal. If anything he would hypothetically see more time at RG then LG though if you have him at LG with Trent Williams, well good luck to anyone trying to defend a toss left. Then again Jamaal Brown isn't exactly flat footed.

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Supposedly, Byron Westbrook has been released though I'm not entirely sure. Which means that Tryon and Robinson look like they may both make the team, or not.

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Never quite understood what the hype about Edwin Williams was all about. He always seemed like just another guy to me.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726387]Supposedly, Byron Westbrook has been released though I'm not entirely sure. Which means that Tryon and Robinson look like they may both make the team, or not.[/quote]

That's insider quality right there!!

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[quote=Mattyk;726391]Never quite understood what the hype about Edwin Williams was all about. He always seemed like just another guy to me.[/quote]

I personally like him a lot, known him since he was in high school. Good guy who I wanted to see do well in the pros, and especially for his hometown team

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Schefty's reporting on the Westbrook release now, though the Skins still aren't confirming anything.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726396]I personally like him a lot, known him since he was in high school. Good guy who I wanted to see do well in the pros, and especially for his hometown team[/quote]

I understand the hometown connection and the fact he played at Maryland. Still, he just didn't seem like anything special on the field.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726397]Schefty's reporting on the Westbrook release now, though the Skins still aren't confirming anything.[/quote]

So does that mean a signing is likely coming? Seems like these guys haven't really cut anyone until they absolutely had too.

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Westbrook report may have been premature. Hearing mixed things

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Sad to hear about Williams, i thought he did decent the couple times he played last year.

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wonder what really happened with this westbrook situation. maybe some paperwork didnt get filed properly to place Kelly on IR and the skins thought they had to drop another player ASAP, but then got the kelly thing worked out?

either way, this could be an indication that westbrook is the 75th player on the team right now.

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Did R.Williams get cut? I saw on Redskins.com Depth Chart that he's off the list?

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[quote=SmootSmack;726416]Westbrook report may have been premature. Hearing mixed things[/quote]

One month suspension Schefter. You too Smoot'.

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[quote=diehard;726617]One month suspension Schefter. You too Smoot'.[/quote]

Matty has already notified me that I will be suspended for 10 days. I've appealed but I'm guessing he'll ask me to take some time off around mid-September

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;726608]Did R.Williams get cut? I saw on Redskins.com Depth Chart that he's off the list?[/quote]

Still on the roster, just not on the visible depth chart it seems

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[quote=SmootSmack;726619]Matty has already notified me that I will be suspended for 10 days. I've appealed but I'm guessing he'll ask me to take some time off around mid-September[/quote]Vactioning, eh?

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[quote=GTripp0012;726622]Vactioning, eh?[/quote]

Call it what you want. Fact is I won't be getting my Warpath Mod payment every day that I'm away. I'll have the union take it up with Matty privately

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[quote=Mattyk;726399]I understand the hometown connection and the fact he played at Maryland. Still, he just didn't seem like anything special on the field.[/quote]Think he might have stuck if they had kept him at Center. At Guard, the talent pool with regard to guys who can run/pass/screen block is a lot deeper, because there isn't such a premium on first step quickness and ability to set and adjust protections.

Once he got moved to left guard, he didn't seem to offer more than basic ability at that position to not be overpowered by standard level defensive lineman. And so I'm not shocked that he was displaced by Kory Lichtensteiger.

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[quote=SmootSmack;726627]Call it what you want. Fact is I won't be getting my Warpath Mod payment every day that I'm away. I'll have the union take it up with Matty privately[/quote]

I am a doctor and I must say you have been exhibiting signs of overworked mod syndrome. That is whats giving you problems.

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Didn't work at the voluntaries, now you can't go at the beginning of the season... Typical Diva

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

[quote=CRedskinsRule;726646]Didn't work at the voluntaries, now you can't go at the beginning of the season... Typical Diva[/quote]

Worked out on my own this year, and I'll do the same next year

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

Smack will be placed on the Physically Unable To Mod list... better known as the PUM list.

The new Mod CBA allows mods to be placed on this list unlike the NFL, so even though he showed up to Camp and praticed a few times with the team before straining his right index finger, we can keep him on the 6,252 man roster.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;726665]Smack will be placed on the Physically Unable To Mod list... better known as the PUM list.

The new Mod CBA allows mods to be placed on this list unlike the NFL, so even though he showed up to Camp and praticed a few times with the team before straining his right index finger, we can keep him on the 6,252 man roster.[/quote]

I keep on hearing that we got a new mod coming in. Word has it that he works at NFLN. The youth movement continues.

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

SmootSmack has been cut for salary cap reasons despite the lack of a salary cap.

Williams was picked up by the Bears

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;726691]Williams was picked up by the Bears[/quote]

Good for him, hope he lands a spot on their final roster

Re: First Cuts: Holmes, E. Williams, Dearth, Davis
 

[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;726665]Smack will be placed on the Physically Unable To Mod list... better known as the PUM list.

The new Mod CBA allows mods to be placed on this list unlike the NFL, so even though he showed up to Camp and praticed a few times with the team before straining his right index finger, we can keep him on the 6,252 man roster.[/quote]

Not true, the Mod CBA was revised in 2008 after the Gmanc711 incident, now the PUM list applies only to left-handed mods.

I still plan on appealing my imminent suspension but expect that I will have to accept it and sit out the Texans, Rams, and Eagles games

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;726701]Not true, the Mod CBA was revised in 2008 after the Gmanc711 incident, now the PUM list applies only to left-handed mods.

I still plan on appealing my imminent suspension but expect that I will have to accept it and sit out the Texans, Rams, and Eagles games[/QUOTE]

Hypothetically, I would say I am tired of SS's coming and going as he pleases. Who doesn't remember the Week 5 fiasco. And now he's going to miss 3 of the first 4 games. Hypothetically, I would say make him sit the season.


But I won't say any of that because I'm afraid of the parrot

Smoot rocks!

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Well thank you for the correction about the Mod CBA.

I hope you have your suspension either recended or at least have the supsension decreased from a 3 game suspension down to a 1, just be honest in your interview with the MOD Commisioner. He may actually tack on an extra game to your suspension if you lie to him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;726704]Hypothetically, I would say I am tired of SS's coming and going as he pleases. Who doesn't remember the Week 5 fiasco. And now he's going to miss 3 of the first 4 games. Hypothetically, I would say make him sit the season.


But I won't say any of that because I'm afraid of the parrot

Smoot rocks![/quote]

Week 5 fiasco was a misunderstanding, I had to go use the bathroom, came back 10 minutes later and then Matty tells me I took too long and couldn't update the thread title. I wanted to updated it, but he said no.