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Yea screen to Banks was just dumb, DT may have made a better play IMO

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As far as the screen to banks, asgood as we had our running game going why are you even trying to get cute and not just POUNDING THE ROCK UP THIER ASSES.

It didnt matter in the end so who cares.

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[quote=12thMan;743253]Bullshit! You're telling me Devin Thomas can't get on the field to run a button hook? A screen? I also think Thomas scores on that catch where Armstrong trips over the turf. The guy can even block from what I've seen, so why not use him on a chip block occasionally or a crack back? Something!

How can anyone make the argument that Devin Thomas can't break a tackle or go up for a jump ball or be used as a decoy to stretch the field? Physically speaking, there's not ONE receiver on our team more gifted than Devin Thomas. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

The only conclusion I can come to is that Mike Shanahan loves veteran, warrior practice players. Look, Shanahan is a competent NFL coach but I seriously question some of his methods at times, which has ill served this team in my opinion.[/quote]

I have to agree with you. You know what's messed up didn't DT do a similar catch in 2009 like AA and he to fell and people killed him for falling over his own feet and yet AA does it and know one kills him.

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This is what I'd do start DT, ain't know one else but Moss as a WR catching Sh*t, he's worth the chance, Galloway please RW come one you can not be serious IMO cut them both bring up TA from practice squad then we have

Moss
DT
AA
Banks
TA

HTTR.

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At least promote Terrence Austin and cut Roydell Williams, what has Williams done? Austin will at least do something.

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The only thing that makes sense is that they believe Austin has more upside then Thomas, and since he was a 2nd rounder, they may still be able to get a decent return out of him. Other then that, I don't see what the WR corps has done that is all that positive. Armstrong seems to be able to get behind the defense on occasion, but I am not sure he plays the ball well in the air. Galloway is a fossil and I don't think Banks can get off the line of scrimmage consistently. Not sure that any of the WR on the roster will be there long term.

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YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSS! anybody we get would be better! I can'[t believe 'AVOID THE LLOYED" IS doing so well in denver either. He's actually catching balls! and not dropping balls!

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It's quite clear that Devin Thomas is the offenses version of Albert Haynesworth. Something DT did in the off-season irked the hell outta shanahan so bad that he never got over it. I remember it being reported that DT only made it to 55-60% of offseason workouts, just enough to keep a presence around Redskins Park, and not have to pass a conditioning test when getting to training camp. Shanahan is uptight so that might have been all it took.

Whoever said that other receivers are just "running around like decoys" is outta their mind. They have specific routes that they JUST CANT GET OPEN running. Thats how this boggles my mind. Galloway hasn't done anything except that 3rd down catch yesterday. But i dont think he should start for catching a 5 yard slant. Devin Thomas is 6'2". The only receiver on our roster with decent size. I dont think in today's NFL we can have the Smurfs 2.0 (trading Devin and activating TA). and PS. Devin Thomas is faster than TA.

Yes, agreed, Devin Thomas had one productive year in college, BUT WHEN THE HELL WAS THE LAST TIME JOEY GALLOWAY OR ROYDELL WILLIAMS WAS PRODUCTIVE?? There is a reason Galloway was cut by two teams last year. He wasnt productive with Tom Brady throwing him the damn ball! Roydell hasn't even played organized football in 3 years!

Thomas's worst attribute was getting drafted in the Zorn Era cuz he spent two years practicing with beach balls, bells and whistles, fun and games, and now we're being run like a professional organization. He's not adjusting well. Clearly, its not for his on-field play cuz up to this point, he doesnt have any :-(

I am totally against this move. Ugh.

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I just cannot come to grips with Joey Galloway being better than Thomas but I have to defer to the coaches.

What about this bizarro world where Brandon Lloyd is one of the best receivers in football??

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Coaches have access to more than just stat sheets. Actually, I don't think they bother with stats that much because they can see and evaluate the tangibles right in front of them.

And Thomas has McCardell as his coach now, so whatever he's failing in, it isn't because of coaching.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;743303]I just cannot come to grips with Joey Galloway being better than Thomas but I have to defer to the coaches.

What about this bizarro world where Brandon Lloyd is one of the best receivers in football??[/quote]

He woke up and started giving a damn about football.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;743305]He woke up and started giving a damn about football.[/quote]

Doc Walker used to say all the time that the players said Lloyd was the best receiver on the team when he was here.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;743306]Doc Walker used to say all the time that the players said Lloyd was the best receiver on the team when he was here.[/quote]

Let's blame Hixon. :D

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How about DT for Marshawn Lynch or Fred Jackson now that Portis will be out for a while, before the Eagles beat us to it since McCoy has a broken rib.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;743308]Let's blame Hixon. :D[/quote]

Ha! Didn't he throw a helmet or something which freaked out Gibbs. (even though our stupid punter did it twice a year back then...)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743311]How about DT for Marshawn Lynch or Fred Jackson now that Portis will be out for a while, before the Eagles beat us to it since McCoy has a broken rib.[/quote]

Obviously we would do it. I am not so sure that Buffalo would sign off.

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Maybe Michael Westbrook or Rod Gardner are looking for work.HA!

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I don't think we need a RB. Torain is going to be good. I wonder if anything more ever came of that Kenny Britt rumor? He has been putting up modest numbers the last two weeks. Tennessee trade reincarnation anyone? Disgruntled WR's straight up? Thomas for Britt? Or Thomas and Haynesworth for Britt and....

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[quote=12thMan;743253]Bullshit! You're telling me Devin Thomas can't get on the field to run a button hook? A screen? I also think Thomas scores on that catch where Armstrong trips over the turf. The guy can even block from what I've seen, so why not use him on a chip block occasionally or a crack back? Something!

How can anyone make the argument that Devin Thomas can't break a tackle or go up for a jump ball or be used as a decoy to stretch the field? Physically speaking, there's not ONE receiver on our team more gifted than Devin Thomas. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

The only conclusion I can come to is that Mike Shanahan loves veteran, warrior practice players. Look, Shanahan is a competent NFL coach but I seriously question some of his methods at times, which has ill served this team in my opinion.[/quote]

I agree he's gotta be better than Armstrong, gotta have more talent........but does he work harder than Armstrong? Does he do the little things to make himself better? I dont know, you dont know, but I think Shanny values that type of stuff more with what im seeing.

Right now Im trusting Shanny and Bruce Bruce to run the team. So bye bye Devin "Epic Bust" Thomas

[QUOTE=PHazard;743297]It's quite clear that Devin Thomas is the offenses version of Albert Haynesworth. Something DT did in the off-season irked the hell outta shanahan so bad that he never got over it. I remember it being reported that DT only made it to 55-60% of offseason workouts, just enough to keep a presence around Redskins Park, and not have to pass a conditioning test when getting to training camp. Shanahan is uptight so that might have been all it took.

Whoever said that other receivers are just "running around like decoys" is outta their mind. They have specific routes that they JUST CANT GET OPEN running. Thats how this boggles my mind. Galloway hasn't done anything except that 3rd down catch yesterday. But i dont think he should start for catching a 5 yard slant. Devin Thomas is 6'2". The only receiver on our roster with decent size. I dont think in today's NFL we can have the Smurfs 2.0 (trading Devin and activating TA). and PS. Devin Thomas is faster than TA.

Yes, agreed, Devin Thomas had one productive year in college, BUT WHEN THE HELL WAS THE LAST TIME JOEY GALLOWAY OR ROYDELL WILLIAMS WAS PRODUCTIVE?? There is a reason Galloway was cut by two teams last year. He wasnt productive with Tom Brady throwing him the damn ball! Roydell hasn't even played organized football in 3 years!

Thomas's worst attribute was getting drafted in the Zorn Era cuz he spent two years practicing with beach balls, bells and whistles, fun and games, and now we're being run like a professional organization. He's not adjusting well. Clearly, its not for his on-field play cuz up to this point, he doesnt have any :-(

I am totally against this move. Ugh.[/QUOTE]

Clearly Galloway and Williams were brought in to motivate Kelly and more specifically Thomas, and to show how professionals go about their work. I assume that Shanahan considers the experiment unwinnable at this point and so they are looking for other options. What a shame, I really expected DT to step up to the plate.

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[quote=SkinzWin;743330]I don't think we need a RB. Torain is going to be good. I wonder if anything more ever came of that Kenny Britt rumor? He has been putting up modest numbers the last two weeks. Tennessee trade reincarnation anyone? Disgruntled WR's straight up? Thomas for Britt? Or Thomas and Haynesworth for Britt and....[/quote]

Torain has an injury history. We definitely could use another back with experience.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;743337]Torain has an injury history. We definitely could use another back with experience.[/quote]

I wouldn't say experience so much as a warm body that knows the system. Torrain. Hopefully Simpson and/or Williams can contribute.

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;743337]Torain has an injury history. We definitely could use another back with experience.[/quote]

Michael Pittman and Andre Hall may be on Shanny's emergency hotline. They were on the 2008 Broncos' roster.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;743206]Why are my fellow redskins fans getting all uptight about this D.Thomas situation?
Seriously..why?

We have a speed demon in Armstrong who's leaving DB's behind
We have another WR who's faster than Devin Hester and finally gives this skins team something they haven't had since Brian Mitchell or Darrell Green left...A true return man threat!
Not to mention we have a guy sitting on our practice squad who has shown me he has as much if not MORE potential than Thomas in Terrence Austin.
AND...we still will have another season to see how much a bust in Malcolm Kelly we have..lol
Maybe he steps up..maybe not,but i like our situation.

I would be totally fine with trading D.Thomas for a player that can help us now or for a draft pick next season.[/quote]

I think the big reason we are trading DT, is exactly that, we can trade him. We need picks, and badly. This team has no depth to speak of in too many areas to be real contenders, yet. With the NFC East wide open, we can make the playoffs, but come time to face GB, Minn, or the Saints, our guys will be packing their bags to Maui. Our WR corp is still a joke, and I hate to say it, but it includes the newbies. Yes they have potential, but we haven't seen much from even AA, with the exception of that one bomb and a few more grabs. Yeah Banks might end up being a stud of a return man, but how is he going to be at WR? Austin is big on potential also, but why was Banks even cut, and Austin put on PS, if they were so great? Galloway and Roydell are just wastes of roster space. We should have trolled the college ranks for undrafted rooks than sign these guys. We need DBs and LBs, and maybe we can snag a keeper even for depth in the 5th round. O line still takes top priority, along with a NT. Any shopping of Thomas should include AH for multiple picks.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;743338]I wouldn't say experience so much as a warm body that knows the system. Torrain. Hopefully Simpson and/or Williams can contribute.[/quote]

Tatum Bell anyone? I actually would suspect LJ or Parker would return first. Either way I am cautiously excited about more Torain

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PHazard where did you hear it that DT only attended 55-60% of offseason workouts? I was under the impression everybody but Haynesworth showed up and put the work in, including DT. I didn't hear a single thing all offseason about DT only putting in the minimum hours and not taking it seriously.

I'd love to see DT on the field in all honesty, but if the coaching staff wants to trade him, well then it's their choice. I don't feel like he's been given a chance to succeed here, but there's more to that than meets the eye. Maybe the coaching staff doesn't like him, maybe he doesn't impress in practice, for whatever reason he's not even playing on offense whatsoever. I doubt we'd get anything for him but it's not in my hands.

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[quote=mooby;743353]PHazard where did you hear it that DT only attended 55-60% of offseason workouts? I was under the impression everybody but Haynesworth showed up and put the work in, including DT. I didn't hear a single thing all offseason about DT only putting in the minimum hours and not taking it seriously.

I'd love to see DT on the field in all honesty, but if the coaching staff wants to trade him, well then it's their choice. I don't feel like he's been given a chance to succeed here, but there's more to that than meets the eye. Maybe the coaching staff doesn't like him, maybe he doesn't impress in practice, for whatever reason he's not even playing on offense whatsoever. I doubt we'd get anything for him but it's not in my hands.[/quote]

I don't think the staff has anything against him. I think it is a matter that the FO is after a trade to acquire more picks and unless they can get a taker for AH, DT is the only one that is "shopable" for a trade.

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Let's trade him for Peyton Hillis.

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[quote=mooby;743353]PHazard where did you hear it that DT only attended 55-60% of offseason workouts? I was under the impression everybody but Haynesworth showed up and put the work in, including DT. I didn't hear a single thing all offseason about DT only putting in the minimum hours and not taking it seriously.

I'd love to see DT on the field in all honesty, but if the coaching staff wants to trade him, well then it's their choice. I don't feel like he's been given a chance to succeed here, but there's more to that than meets the eye. Maybe the coaching staff doesn't like him, maybe he doesn't impress in practice, for whatever reason he's not even playing on offense whatsoever. I doubt we'd get anything for him but it's not in my hands.[/quote]

Yeah, I don't think the staff really has anything against DT either, but to be fair I do remember hearing that 55-60% figure as it relates to DT.

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So of 10 draft choices from the 2008 draft, only one player (Kareem Moore) has managed to establish himself as a starter by season 3. Thanks Vinny.

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just very frustrating to see a high wasted pick, probably 2 of the 3 second round picks are done here in DC, being kelly and thomas. damn frustrating, but if hes not going to get on the field under this regime let him make another team i suppose. get what you can.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;743258]Whatever!!! ROTFLMAO!!! It's gotta be 4:20 at your place!!!! THere is no way in helly he catches that pass or the one AA caught out of bounds!! JMHO and yours.
Dont keep a draft pick just cause he's a first rounder....he's way over due.:oink:[/quote]

So your telling me he doesn't catch a wide open pass that hits him in stride?? He's not Carlos, I also wanna see him on the field before we trade him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;743335]Clearly Galloway and Williams were brought in to motivate Kelly and more specifically Thomas, and to show how professionals go about their work. I assume that Shanahan considers the experiment unwinnable at this point and so they are looking for other options. What a shame, I really expected DT to step up to the plate.[/quote]

^^ This.

Everyone complaining that DT needed a chance on the field - he had a chance everyday in practice but clearly wasn't showing enough, either in his route running or his practice habits to let his QB's trust him in a game. Someone pointed to his game in New Orleans. Okay - where is the week in, week out performance to back that up? He's been on the field. He's had opportunities. Like Lloyd, Jacobs, Gardner, Westbrook and others before him - he just don't got it. -- Like them, he looks good on paper, can have a good game when all the stars align, but is not someone who [I]makes[/I] coaches play him.

If we get a 6th rounder for him, I would be amazed.

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My god, when was the last time we drafted a successful wide receiver?

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[quote=Beemnseven;743400]My god, when was the last time we drafted a successful wide receiver?[/quote]

Well, they took Gary Clark in the Supplemental Draft, but Art Monk is probably the last one in 1980.

That is, unless 2 season leading the team in receiving is a success, then you have Westbrook and Gardner. Each of whom lead the team in receiving yards twice. Their totals?

Westbrook: 736 and 1191 in 1998 and 1999
Gardner: 741 and 1006 in 2001 and 2002

WRs drafted since Art Monk in ascending order:
1981: Charlie Brown (Rd 8) and Jerry Hill (Rd 11)
1982: Carl Powell (Rd 3)
1984: Mark Smith (Rd 7) and Curtland Thomas (Rd 12)
1986: Walter Murray (Rd 2) and Eric Yarber (Rd 12)
1987: Ted Wilson (Rd 10) and Laron Brown (Rd 11)
1989: Eric Affholter (Rd 4)
1991: Keenan McCardell (Rd 12)
1992: Desmond Howard (Rd 1) and Terry Smith (Rd 11)
1994: Tydus Winans (Rd 4)
1995: Michael Westbrook (Rd 1)
1996: DeAndre Maxwell (Rd 7)
1997: Albert Connell (Rd 4)
1998: Patrick Palmer (Rd 6)
1999: Tim Alexander (Rd 7)
2000: Ethan Howell (Rd 7)
2001: Rod Garnder (Rd 1) and Darnerien McCants (Rd 5)
2002: Cliff Russell (Rd 3)
2003: Taylor Jacobs (Rd 2)
2008: Devin Thomas (Rd 2) and Malcolm Kelly (Rd 2)
2009: Marko Mitchell (Rd 7)
2010: Terence Austin (Rd 7)

Out of that group, not one was a particularly successful Redskin. Keenan McCardell was undoubtedly the best with over 11000 yards in his career, but only 256 came as a Redskin and that was in his second stint and the final stop of his career.

Desmond Howard managed a Super Bowl MVP, but that was primarily as a KR.

Obviously the jury is still out on Austin, but I doubt he reaches a consistent level of success as anything more than a slot receiver.

So, to recap: We suck at selecting WRs.

EDIT: Corrected 1981 Draft: Had Carl Powell in Round 11, should have been Jerry Hill

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[quote=SouperMeister;743376]So of 10 draft choices from the 2008 draft, only one player (Kareem Moore) has managed to establish himself as a starter by season 3. Thanks Vinny.[/quote]

And how many made the squad from this year under Bruce Allen?
All this talk about trading viable players for low draft picks is risky to me.
Conceptually its great...this all assumes we can find a starter in the 4th or 5th round under the new regime....at this point that remains to be seen.

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[quote=jdlea;743401]Well, they took Gary Clark in the Supplemental Draft, but Art Monk is probably the last one in 1980.

That is, unless 2 season leading the team in receiving is a success, then you have Westbrook and Gardner. Each of whom lead the team in receiving yards twice. Their totals?

Westbrook: 736 and 1191 in 1998 and 1999
Gardner: 741 and 1006 in 2001 and 2002

WRs drafted since Art Monk in ascending order:
1981: Charlie Brown (Rd 8) and Carl Powell (Rd 11)
1982: Carl Powell (Rd 3)
1984: Mark Smith (Rd 7) and Curtland Thomas (Rd 12)
1986: Walter Murray (Rd 2) and Eric Yarber (Rd 12)
1987: Ted Wilson (Rd 10) and Laron Brown (Rd 11)
1989: Eric Affholter (Rd 4)
1991: Keenan McCardell (Rd 12)
1992: Desmond Howard (Rd 1) and Terry Smith (Rd 11)
1994: Tydus Winans (Rd 4)
1995: Michael Westbrook (Rd 1)
1996: DeAndre Maxwell (Rd 7)
1997: Albert Connell (Rd 4)
1998: Patrick Palmer (Rd 6)
1999: Tim Alexander (Rd 7)
2000: Ethan Howell (Rd 7)
2001: Rod Garnder (Rd 1) and Darnerien McCants (Rd 5)
2002: Cliff Russell (Rd 3)
2003: Taylor Jacobs (Rd 2)
2008: Devin Thomas (Rd 2) and Malcolm Kelly (Rd 2)
2009: Marko Mitchell (Rd 7)
2010: Terence Austin (Rd 7)

Out of that group, not one was a particularly successful Redskin. Keenan McCardell was undoubtedly the best with over 11000 yards in his career, but only 256 came as a Redskin and that was in his second stint and the final stop of his career.

Desmond Howard managed a Super Bowl MVP, but that was primarily as a KR.

Obviously the jury is still out on Austin, but I doubt he reaches a consistent level of success as anything more than a slot receiver.

So, to recap: We suck at selecting WRs.[/quote]

Two things:
First, nice research. Thanks.
Second, OUCH!!

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[quote=jdlea;743401]Well, they took Gary Clark in the Supplemental Draft, but Art Monk is probably the last one in 1980.

That is, unless 2 season leading the team in receiving is a success, then you have Westbrook and Gardner. Each of whom lead the team in receiving yards twice. Their totals?

Westbrook: 736 and 1191 in 1998 and 1999
Gardner: 741 and 1006 in 2001 and 2002

WRs drafted since Art Monk in ascending order:
1981: Charlie Brown (Rd 8) and Carl Powell (Rd 11)
1982: Carl Powell (Rd 3)
1984: Mark Smith (Rd 7) and Curtland Thomas (Rd 12)
1986: Walter Murray (Rd 2) and Eric Yarber (Rd 12)
1987: Ted Wilson (Rd 10) and Laron Brown (Rd 11)
1989: Eric Affholter (Rd 4)
1991: Keenan McCardell (Rd 12)
1992: Desmond Howard (Rd 1) and Terry Smith (Rd 11)
1994: Tydus Winans (Rd 4)
1995: Michael Westbrook (Rd 1)
1996: DeAndre Maxwell (Rd 7)
1997: Albert Connell (Rd 4)
1998: Patrick Palmer (Rd 6)
1999: Tim Alexander (Rd 7)
2000: Ethan Howell (Rd 7)
2001: Rod Garnder (Rd 1) and Darnerien McCants (Rd 5)
2002: Cliff Russell (Rd 3)
2003: Taylor Jacobs (Rd 2)
2008: Devin Thomas (Rd 2) and Malcolm Kelly (Rd 2)
2009: Marko Mitchell (Rd 7)
2010: Terence Austin (Rd 7)

Out of that group, not one was a [B]particularly successful Redskin[/B]. Keenan McCardell was undoubtedly the best with over 11000 yards in his career, but only 256 came as a Redskin and that was in his second stint and the final stop of his career.

Desmond Howard managed a Super Bowl MVP, but that was primarily as a KR.

Obviously the jury is still out on Austin, but I doubt he reaches a consistent level of success as anything more than a slot receiver.

So, to recap: We suck at selecting WRs.[/quote]

Man, that is depressing. I would argue though that if Westbrook had been a 3rd or maybe even a 2nd round pick, and had not stole S. Davis, fans would look back at him as being a decent wr, maybe a really good #2. Same for Rod Gardner, he was also a decent #2.

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[quote=jdlea;743401]Well, they took Gary Clark in the Supplemental Draft, but Art Monk is probably the last one in 1980.

That is, unless 2 season leading the team in receiving is a success, then you have Westbrook and Gardner. Each of whom lead the team in receiving yards twice. Their totals?

Westbrook: 736 and 1191 in 1998 and 1999
Gardner: 741 and 1006 in 2001 and 2002

WRs drafted since Art Monk in ascending order:
1981: Charlie Brown (Rd 8) and Carl Powell (Rd 11)
1982: Carl Powell (Rd 3)
1984: Mark Smith (Rd 7) and Curtland Thomas (Rd 12)
1986: Walter Murray (Rd 2) and Eric Yarber (Rd 12)
1987: Ted Wilson (Rd 10) and Laron Brown (Rd 11)
1989: Eric Affholter (Rd 4)
[B]1991: Keenan McCardell (Rd 12)[/B]
1992: Desmond Howard (Rd 1) and Terry Smith (Rd 11)
1994: Tydus Winans (Rd 4)
1995: Michael Westbrook (Rd 1)
1996: DeAndre Maxwell (Rd 7)
1997: Albert Connell (Rd 4)
1998: Patrick Palmer (Rd 6)
1999: Tim Alexander (Rd 7)
2000: Ethan Howell (Rd 7)
2001: Rod Garnder (Rd 1) and Darnerien McCants (Rd 5)
2002: Cliff Russell (Rd 3)
2003: Taylor Jacobs (Rd 2)
2008: Devin Thomas (Rd 2) and Malcolm Kelly (Rd 2)
2009: Marko Mitchell (Rd 7)
2010: Terence Austin (Rd 7)

Out of that group, not one was a particularly successful Redskin. Keenan McCardell was undoubtedly the best with over 11000 yards in his career, but only 256 came as a Redskin and that was in his second stint and the final stop of his career.

Desmond Howard managed a Super Bowl MVP, but that was primarily as a KR.

Obviously the jury is still out on Austin, but I doubt he reaches a consistent level of success as anything more than a slot receiver.

So, to recap: We suck at selecting WRs.[/quote]

It amazes me that even Keenan, who played in this league for so many years at a high level can not get DT to be a pro. I bet if you put Gary Clark's heart inside of DT he'd be an all pro, 90 catch guy every year.

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[quote=aceinthehouse;743206]Why are my fellow redskins fans getting all uptight about this D.Thomas situation?
Seriously..why?[/quote]

Really not sure either. The guy hasn't seen the field on offense so it's like like we would miss him at all. If we can find some value for him, great, Shanahan obviously doesn't see him fitting into his plans.