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Do any of you guys honestly think we'll go Quarterback in round 2? If one will be taken, it will be one that Shanahan is confident with and go #10 overall.

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Right now, this would be a decent draft in my opinion based on pre-combine info:

1. Quinn or Miller
2. R. Hudson or Locker if available.
5. Ben Ijalana (g) Villanova
5. Pernell McPhee (de) Miss St.
6. Eric Hagg (cb/s) Nebraska. possibly Darel Scott (rb) UMD.
7. M. Mustain (qb) USC or D. Scott and sign Mustain as a free agent or vice versa.

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[quote=GTripp0012;779504][URL="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/story/14568368/nc-dt-austin-delaware-qb-devlin-shine-at-shrine-practice"]DT Austin, QB Devlin impress at Shrine practice - NFL - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com[/URL]

Which is not to say I would value Reuter's info any more than yours. I wouldn't.[/quote]

[quote=SmootSmack]Without being there myself I can't say for sure[URL=http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2011/1/19/1943789/2011-east-west-shrine-game-pat-devlin-getting-mixed-reviews]
2011 East-West Shrine Game: Pat Devlin Getting Mixed Reviews - Buffalo Rumblings[/URL][/quote]

This is why we love and hate this time of year. For every 'scout' who loves a player, there's another one who hates them.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;779300]I feel that we'll probably fill a few holes in FA which could change my outlook on a Dream Draft.

[B]To be honest, I don't think I like any player in this draft that we might get at #10 enough to draft him there. So, my ideal draft would include trading down, perhaps with Miami, if they would like to move up to take a QB they like.[/B]Maybe we could still get Von Miller (LOLB) at #15 and Stephan Wisniewski (C/G) in Round 2. Plus we could possibly get a 3rd Round pick in the hypothetical trade with Miami.[/quote]

Trading down would be absolutely ideal, we need help at a lot of different positions and i am not enamored w/ anyone that will be available at #10. Trade down to get more picks and draft as many players as possible at the T, G, DE, OLB, FS/DB (depending on what we do with Rogers and where Barnes starts next season) positions.

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Man people just say trade down like it's that easy to do. The scenario was if we didn't make any moves what is your ideal 2 round draft.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;779560]Man people just say trade down like it's that easy to do. The scenario was if we didn't make any moves what is your ideal 2 round draft.[/quote]

1. Locker.
2. Wisniewski.

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OL: Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State) or Derek Sherrod (Miss State) whichever is available in Round 1. If both are available, take Wisniewski.


DL: Jerrell Powe (Mississippi) or Adrian Clayborn (Iowa) whichever is available in Round 2. If both are available, take Powe.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;779617]OL: Stefen Wisniewski (Penn State) or Derek Sherrod (Miss State) whichever is available in Round 1. If both are available, take Wisniewski.


DL: Jerrell Powe (Mississippi) or Adrian Clayborn (Iowa) whichever is available in Round 2. If both are available, take Powe.[/quote]

I've heard Wisniewski's name mentioned a lot but is he being scouted as a 1st round value right now? I thought most people waited until the middle of the draft to take interior linement. Tackles were generally in the first two rounds.

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1st pick: Von Miller LB/ Texas A&M= 6-2 243 4.56 40 time very good tackler and hard hitter with the speed to drop in coverage(they have to get him)2nd pick:Christian Ponder QB/Florida State=6-2 227 4.68 40 time,accurate arm and stronger arm than most realize,accurate out of the pocket,more pro ready than Locker. 3rd pick:(if they can muster somehow by trading Haynesworthless)the best 3-4 DT available.4th pick:Austin Pettis WR/Boise State 6-3 201 4.59 40 time underated WR ,good physical receiver,was the go too guy on 3rd and longs several times this year(exactly what the Redskins need)5th,6th,7th pick:Robert Sands S/WVU 6-5 221 4.7 40 time Hard hitter,good hands,ball hawk type safety .(tagged the hardest hitting DB in the big east) Ryan Bartholomew C/Syracuse 6-1 300 4.95 40 time athletic ,strong Ollie Ogbu DT/Penn State 6-1 298 5.09 40 time dont know anything about him just loved the name

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I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft

1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me.

2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown.

3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan)

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[QUOTE=Dirtbag359;779686]I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft

1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me.

2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown.

3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan)[/QUOTE]

I like that scenario a lot. I've been high on Von Miller for awhile. I think it would be a tremendous pressure off of Orakpo, not allowing offenses to cheat help to his side all the time because he is the only stud up front.

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U guys must have seen ponder in a different light than I have. He's a decent player but I Just don't see him as a starter in the NFL..

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[quote=Dirtbag359;779686]I'm feeling conservative today so here's my draft

1st Round - Von Miller - LB - Texas A&M - Guy can do everything. Rush the passer, cover, and stop the run. He's a perfect fit for our defense. Ironically his coverage skills are his main selling point for me.

2nd Round - Rodney Hudson - C - Florida State - This guy is not only a perfect fit for our zone scheme but he also has the potential to easily be a top 5 center in two or three years along with Mangold, Kalil, Mack, and Brown.

3rd Round - Christian Ponder - QB - Florida State - This pick would be acquired through some combination of trading our 5th round picks, Haynesworth and/or McNabb. However I firmly believe that Ponder will last till late in the third round, especially if Dalton established himself at the top of the third tier. Anyway Ponder is mobile, accurate when healthy, and is a great leader. I think I remember hearing somewhere that he graduated from college in 2.5 years. He also has experience in a pro style system. I must admit I don't have a ton of faith in a third round QB but Ponder does seem like a decent risk. Plus for whatever reason the ACC does a good job producing QB's (Schuab, Vick, Rivers, Ryan)[/quote]

Maybe in the 4th round you can draft an English teacher who can show you how to read thread titles and original posts...yeah, I went there :)

Lot of people talking Miller and Ponder since I first brought them up it seems. I'd be quite happy with the two of them here.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;779691]U guys must have seen ponder in a different light than I have. He's a decent player but I Just don't see him as a starter in the NFL..[/quote]

Well the way I feel about it is there is no super star, sure to be a top NFL QB in this year's draft since Luck stayed at Stanford. Therefore, I think we need to get a player that can be an elite talent at one of our other major areas of need, not a QB that people are iffy about in the 1st or 2nd round just because we need a QB.

Rex can be a stop gap. If we get a QB with some possible upside in the 3rd or 4th round, maybe they can be a solid starter. If not, we will still have gotten some starting quality talent to build our team and lets face it, we will probably not be a playoff team next year unless everything goes right for us.

I'm just more of the opinion that we take a huge risk taking a QB in the 1st or 2nd with this draft class. I would rather get a guy in the 1st or 2nd we are more sure will be a long term starter and star for the team and get a QB next year if one we draft this year doesn't work out. In the second round we could get a good center like Wisniewski, Hudson, or Pouncey. I would rather have a mid round pick on a QB not pan out than a 1st or 2nd round pick on a QB. This draft class could be a bunch of Clausens and that scares me.

Edit: Just pretend I am only talking about a 2nd round draft pick scenario. :)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;779691]U guys must have seen ponder in a different light than I have. He's a decent player but I Just don't see him as a starter in the NFL..[/quote]

I see Ponder as an accurate, extremely intelligent, mobile, and creative QB. Others have stronger arms but his is strong enough. He also is tough and a good leader. The knocks against him seem to be arm strength (which can be developed somewhat) and sometimes poor decisions (which can be rectified by film study and his own native intelligence).

Ponder is so intelligent that he can be one of those QB's who is successful by outsmarting the defense.

I'm not saying that Ponder is great. But in a weak QB class, I see him as the most likely to be successful, at least in a Shanny offense.

So, why do you not see him as a starter?

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[quote=Lotus;779704]I see Ponder as an accurate, extremely intelligent, mobile, and creative QB. Others have stronger arms but his is strong enough. He also is tough and a good leader. The knocks against him seem to be arm strength (which can be developed somewhat) and sometimes poor decisions (which can be rectified by film study and his own native intelligence).

Ponder is so intelligent that he can be one of those QB's who is successful by outsmarting the defense.

I'm not saying that Ponder is great. But in a weak QB class, I see him as the most likely to be successful, at least in a Shanny offense.

So, why do you not see him as a starter?[/quote]


From what I've seen in person and TV the guy has some talent dont get me wrong but kid caves under pressure and has a very average arm IMO.. Arm strength isn't eveything I understand that But you nEed to be able to get the ball down field in the NFL. When he played against OU which I realize is only 1 game, he didn't read any blitzes well at all and made horrific decisions under pressure.. Maybe the guy turns out to be a star who knows, I just don't see what is so special to take him in the high 2nd round.

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I like Ponder a lot, but I wouldn't take him in the high 2nd either. Late 2nd/3rd is where I'd probably look to take him. If he can't show that his elbow is healed then I think right now he may be a 3rd/4th round pick (two rounds in which we currently have no picks). My knock on Ponder, and it's not really a knock per se, is that I'm sure he'll be much better than he currently is. Currently, he looks like someone who can be a solid QB for many many years. He's not merely a game manager, but I don't know that he's a game breaker either

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There have been many passionate posts here for one QB or another, some quoting experts and draft gurus. If there is one thing that the McNabb experiment proved to me is we need to build this team from the ground up, from the inside out first. Smoot mentioned that Ponder could some day be a game manager. I thought to myself that there's no way we need a manager, let's get a guy who can drive 90 yards down the field in 2 minutes. Then I realized we did have that guy last year and he couldn't get it done either. Pass rushing end in the 1st and center in the second.

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[quote=SmootSmack;779693]Maybe in the 4th round you can draft an English teacher who can show you how to read thread titles and original posts...yeah, I went there :)

Lot of people talking Miller and Ponder since I first brought them up it seems. I'd be quite happy with the two of them here.[/quote]

Hey I gave you your two rounds. If anything I should get extra credit for including a third pick. And my holds on the english lagnage is fined muchos gracias.

Still I know you've been dropping hints about Ponder but I also thought you were more of a Quinn guy rather then a Von Miller supporter. If you ask me Quinn vs Von Miller seems like Trent vs Okung all over again, except this time at OLB.


[quote=BuckSkin;779720]There have been many passionate posts here for one QB or another, some quoting experts and draft gurus. If there is one thing that the McNabb experiment proved to me is we need to build this team from the ground up, from the inside out first. Smoot mentioned that Ponder could some day be a game manager. I thought to myself that there's no way we need a manager, let's get a guy who can drive 90 yards down the field in 2 minutes. Then I realized we did have that guy last year and he couldn't get it done either. Pass rushing end in the 1st and center in the second.[/quote]

I see what you're saying and if that franchise QB isn't there at 10 then I'll be all for getting that compliment to Orakpo.

However as the argument goes, if you're ever in position to draft a franchise QB you have to take him. Tons of examples but for now the Vikings will do. I mean look at them, they had everything. Great O-Line, receivers, dominant defense, the leagues best all around running back however the fact that they were stuck with a developmental guy at QB made them a fringe 1 and out playoff team. It wasn't until Favre came along that the Vikigns were able to put all those great supporting pieces to work. The only problem was the age gave the Vikings a one year window.

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You make a compelling argument Dirt, one I honestly hadn't considered, and now it looks like Minnesota's window is beginning to close. Looks like the Williams DT tandem are a thing of the past.

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[quote=BuckSkin;779720]There have been many passionate posts here for one QB or another, some quoting experts and draft gurus. If there is one thing that the McNabb experiment proved to me is we need to build this team from the ground up, from the inside out first. Smoot mentioned that Ponder could some day be a game manager. I thought to myself that there's no way we need a manager, let's get a guy who can drive 90 yards down the field in 2 minutes. Then I realized we did have that guy last year and he couldn't get it done either. Pass rushing end in the 1st and center in the second.[/quote]

When did I say he could some day be a game manager?

Dirtbag-What I had said was there's buzz about the Skins taking Quinn, but my gut says Von Miller

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After re-reading your post Smoot, I misinterpreted what you were saying. You did say that he was "not" merely a game manager...... My bad.

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[quote=Lotus;779704]I see Ponder as an accurate, extremely intelligent, mobile, and creative QB. Others have stronger arms but his is strong enough. He also is tough and a good leader. The knocks against him seem to be arm strength (which can be developed somewhat) and sometimes poor decisions (which can be rectified by film study and his own native intelligence).

Ponder is so intelligent that he can be one of those QB's who is successful by outsmarting the defense.

I'm not saying that Ponder is great. But in a weak QB class, I see him as the most likely to be successful, at least in a Shanny offense.

So, why do you not see him as a starter?[/quote]



Your analyze of him is inflated with hopes and wishful thinking on your part. QBs from Florida universities frighten me.

In fact, this is what CBS Sports says of Ponder: "The biggest concern at this point might be his struggles remaining on the field. While Ponder has been impressive when healthy, he was unable to finish either of the past two seasons due to multiple injuries to his throwing arm."

The CBS Sports critique also agreed with you about his intelligence, but the fact that his arm strength is suspect to make all the NFL throws could be a negative and earn him a selection in the middle rounds of the draft.

If he indeed has had several injuries to his throwing arm, that in itself, makes me leary. Honestly, what about you?

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[quote=juskins;780142]Your analyze of him is inflated with hopes and wishful thinking on your part. QBs from Florida universities frighten me.

In fact, this is what CBS Sports says of Ponder: "The biggest concern at this point might be his struggles remaining on the field. While Ponder has been impressive when healthy, he was unable to finish either of the past two seasons due to multiple injuries to his throwing arm."

The CBS Sports critique also agreed with you about his intelligence, but the fact that his arm strength is suspect to make all the NFL throws could be a negative and earn him a selection in the middle rounds of the draft.

If he indeed has had several injuries to his throwing arm, that in itself, makes me leary. Honestly, what about you?[/quote]

His injuries are a concern that I should have mentioned. Every QB this year, though, seems to have some major concern. I didn't say that Ponder is unblemished.

Injuries are a concern but it all depends on how he recovers. Sam Bradford injured his shoulder his last year in college but cam back just fine. Alternatively, Matt Stafford was pretty much injury-free in college but has been sidelined a lot so far in the NFL. Being injured, or being injury-free, may or may not project to the NFL.

A positive which I failed to mention is that Ponder has considerable experience working under center, unlike some other candidates.

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The more research I do, the more I'm warming to the idea of taking Cam Newton. This guy has Randall Cunningham potential (Eagles Randall & Vikings Randall, but simultaneously). He's film is awesome and his interviews are smooth. I know there is a bust risk, but the BOOM factor may be worth it.

That being said, I have reserved a one-way ticket for a seat on the Jake Locker bandwagon.

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[B]1st DB Prince Amukamara Nebraska [/B]

[B]2nd DT Stephen Paea Oregon State[/B]

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[quote=Eknox;780171][B]1st DB Prince Amukamara Nebraska [/B]

[B]2nd DT Stephen Paea Oregon State[/B][/quote]

I think it will be a big mistake if we fail to address the outer defensive positions in the first two rounds. We need to either draft an OLB or DE in round 1 or 2. We need an elite rusher who can take pressure off Orakpo.

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[quote=SkinzWin;780203]I think it will be a big mistake if we fail to address the outer defensive positions in the first two rounds. We need to either draft an OLB or DE in round 1 or 2. We need an elite rusher who can take pressure off Orakpo.[/quote]

SkinzWin and I are both on the same train. A pass rusher from the QB's blind side and a center. I wanted Heyward, but after looking at Von Miller.....he'll yeah!

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[quote=BuckSkin;780204]SkinzWin and I are both on the same train. A pass rusher from the QB's blind side and a center. I wanted Heyward, but after looking at Von Miller.....he'll yeah![/quote]

There ya go. Now all we need to do is to recruit other Skins fans to join our cause to put pressure on the drafting personnel to do as we say, you know, since we have zero influence on the draft outcomes and a no voice in the decision making process... LOL, but its fun anyway. HTTR.

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Initially, I wanted to go defense at #10 and then got into the QB need thing. But now, I am back to my senses and realize that defense is the way to go at #10. Especially if we are serious about running the Steelers defense.

Von Miller might go before we pick and the sad thing about it, he might go to a 43 defense like Buffalo runs. He looks like he's better suited for the 34 defense because of his speed. If that's the case we have to think out of the box to get role players at OLB to set up a blue chip NT. There are good OLBs in this draft, but none of them have Miller's speed.

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[quote=juskins;780224]Initially, I wanted to go defense at #10 and then got into the QB need thing. But now, I am back to my senses and realize that defense is the way to go at #10. Especially if we are serious about running the Steelers defense.

Von Miller might go before we pick and the sad thing about it, he might go to a 43 defense like Buffalo runs. He looks like he's better suited for the 34 defense because of his speed. If that's the case we have to think out of the box to get role players at OLB to set up a blue chip NT. There are good OLBs in this draft, but none of them have Miller's speed.[/quote]
Von Miller would be an even better fit than Orakpo in a 3-4. Considering it's 90% likely Von Miller is gone when we draft, there's still a lot of other great options.

Akeem Ayers isn't suited as a Pittsburgh style 3-4 OLB, but more of a Patriots 3-4 OLB.. Great at tackling and noticeably good in coverage.

Ryan Kerrigan is certainly a natural 4-3 DE, but I would love to see him standing up after seeing the success Lorenzo had.

Justin Houston would be a huge reach despite him being a very good pass rusher.

Martez Wilson will probably go late first round, but I also think he'd be a great draft choice. A natural inside linebacker, but he was one of the top recruits in the country when he was a DE/OLB coming out of high school.

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[quote=IrMitchell;780231]Von Miller would be an even better fit than Orakpo in a 3-4. Considering it's 90% likely Von Miller is gone when we draft, there's still a lot of other great options.

Akeem Ayers isn't suited as a Pittsburgh style 3-4 OLB, but more of a Patriots 3-4 OLB.. Great at tackling and noticeably good in coverage.

Ryan Kerrigan is certainly a natural 4-3 DE, but I would love to see him standing up after seeing the success Lorenzo had.

Justin Houston would be a huge reach despite him being a very good pass rusher.

Martez Wilson will probably go late first round, but I also think he'd be a great draft choice. A natural inside linebacker, but he was one of the top recruits in the country when he was a DE/OLB coming out of high school.[/quote]


Also, converting a lighter DE into an OLB, like Brooks Reed from Arizona. I guess what I am alluding to is that there are several ways to skin a cat. Getting hooked on one named athletic player could be a let down when that player is no longer there.

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[quote=juskins;780142]Your analyze of him is inflated with hopes and wishful thinking on your part. QBs from Florida universities frighten me.
[/quote]

Jim Kelly
Bernie Kosar
Vinny Testeverde


Oh wait...wrong school....and decade. :D


I do agree with you about QB concerns with DRAFTED QBs. I'd rather spend these picks on the O-line and LB and roll out with McNabb again.

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[quote=Buster;780294]Jim Kelly
Bernie Kosar
Vinny Testeverde


Oh wait...wrong school....and decade. :D


I do agree with you about QB concerns with DRAFTED QBs. I'd rather spend these picks on the O-line and LB and roll out with McNabb again.[/quote]

I agree with you up to the part about McNabb. I don't think after 10 years with the Eagles he has the quick learning ability anymore to learn an offense completely opposite what he has been doing. His skills are also diminished greatly. I would rather put Rex back in there if we can give him a better OLine. He showed he could make the plays, he just doesn't have a good internal clock for pressure, so if we can keep the pressure off of him with good line play it should give the potential to improve the offense much more than by sticking with McNabb. I don't think McNabb will improve anymore in this system at his age.

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[quote=Buster;780294]Jim Kelly
Bernie Kosar
Vinny Testeverde


Oh wait...wrong school....and decade. :D


I do agree with you about QB concerns with DRAFTED QBs. I'd rather spend these picks on the O-line and LB [B][I]and roll out with McNabb again.[/I][/B][/quote]


I was interested in your reply until your mentioning of McNabb!!

Donovan does not fit here if he continues to prepare himself as he has in the past. McNabb is not excited about playing the game for our offense, at least it seems that way to me. You would think that with all the years he has in the NFL, he could mustard up a better performance than what he has presented thus far.

Not sold on him.

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I'll pass too. I had high hopes thinking that we'd at least have the ability to score enough points to keep things interesting, but McNabb just never seemed like he needed to work to fit in the offense. It was as if he felt he had enough natural talent and enough years in the league that he could just look and see what the defense was giving and find someone open. Sadly, there's more to running an offense than that which evidently, didn't matter to McNabb. I'd rather deal with Rexy and his pics than deal with McNabb and his disinterest in the offense.

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Round 1- Jake Locker
Round 2- BPA: 3-4 DE hopefully Cam Heyward

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[quote=30gut;780441]Round 1- Jake Locker
Round 2- BPA: 3-4 DE hopefully Cam Heyward[/quote]

Isn't Heyward out for like 4-6 months or something like that?

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Has anybody mentioned Gabe Carimi Tackle from Wisconsin?

Trade back seven or eight picks and draft that guy because he will be an amazing right tackle.

Pick up an extra late second rounder and draft a guard and a center with the two seconds.

Otherwise I say draft Locker in the 1st and best available center in the second.

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01/22/11 - It turns out Cameron Heyward's preparation for the NFL draft included a detour this week for surgery to repair an injured elbow. The outgoing Ohio State senior defensive lineman suffered a hyperextended elbow Jan. 4 in the Sugar Bowl against Arkansas. He returned to Columbus with the team that night, but before the elbow could be taken care of by Ohio State medical personnel, he moved on to the Phoenix area to begin workouts at a training facility there. Once in Arizona, it was decided by Heyward's new support group that surgery was needed, a source at Ohio State said. The surgery was done at orthopedic specialist Dr. James Andrews' facility in Alabama, though it wasn't clear whether Andrews performed the procedure. Neither Heyward nor his mother could be reached for comment. How it will affect his participation in the NFL scouting combine at Indianapolis in February isn't clear. Heyward was invited to take part in the Senior Bowl next week in Mobile, Ala., but declined because of the injury. -

Tim May, The Columbus Dispatch...... Not my words but Mr May's