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[quote=GTripp0012;816633]I don't really understand this move for any party. It will be fascinating if the Eagles hold onto Asante Samuel. But if they trade him as assumed, teams are just going to throw at DRC all day, every day, and Asomugha will never see the football.

Furthermore, this isn't a monster deal or anything, and I'm not sure how any team got priced out of the market for Asomugha per these contract terms.

Oakland loses, Dallas loses, the Jets lose, and Philadelphia...spends money on a good talent. Are they going to play zone or man? I don't really know.

Philly: a really impressive offseason and they have a really loaded roster at many positions, including CB. [B]The Asomugha move is a boost to their secondary, but I don't think it is anything more than that.[/B][/quote]

I mostly agree, although we have to take whatever they get in a Samuel trade into account.

It seems to me, though, that Babin might be the bigger signing. In Nnamdi they replaced a Pro Bowler with a better Pro Bowler; with Babin they filled a big hole.

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Of all places... Philly.... makes me sick to see them add talent.

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[quote=mooby;816653]Bro, I know how it feels to feel like that, since we root for the same team obviously. It looks bad right now, that the rich are getting richer while it seems we're stuck in neutral. But in reality you just need to trust in the coaching staff. They know what they're doing, and the moves we're making right now aren't so that we can win now, they're so we can win in the long term.

Remember how it felt when this team was making big time moves in the offseason, but never the draft? Remember the excitement we all felt when we traded for and/or signed guys like McNabb, Haynesworth, Archuleta, Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, Primetime, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, etc.? At the time, we all thought we were getting players who would be playing at the pinnacle of their positions for a long time. Instead, we got players who never performed or lived up to any expectations.

Over a decade we proved that you can't win consistently by signing big name free agents to big money deals and expecting them to repeat their success here.

Yeah I know, Nnamdi is different. He's a humble yet talented leader who lets his play do all the talking, and I mean [I]all[/I] the talking. He's so humble he's willing to take less money if it means he will get one step closer to winning a Super Bowl. The anti-Haynesworth, it seems. It doesn't matter. This team isn't one shutdown corner away from winning a Super Bowl, and it won't be for quite some time. We have too many holes to fill, and there's no way he'd ever give us the "contender discount."

The Eagles made the right move, and we made the right move as well. All I'm saying is don't think the season is over before it's ever begun. If all these no name guys like John Beck never got a chance to prove themselves, NFL history would be missing a lot of great names, like Kurt Warner, Rod Smith (who was Shanny's discovery), etc. Just give him a chance.[/quote]

Wow... well said

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[quote=mooby;816653]Bro, I know how it feels to feel like that, since we root for the same team obviously. It looks bad right now, that the rich are getting richer while it seems we're stuck in neutral. But in reality you just need to trust in the coaching staff. They know what they're doing, and the moves we're making right now aren't so that we can win now, they're so we can win in the long term.

Remember how it felt when this team was making big time moves in the offseason, but never the draft? Remember the excitement we all felt when we traded for and/or signed guys like McNabb, Haynesworth, Archuleta, Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, Primetime, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, etc.? At the time, we all thought we were getting players who would be playing at the pinnacle of their positions for a long time. Instead, we got players who never performed or lived up to any expectations.

Over a decade we proved that you can't win consistently by signing big name free agents to big money deals and expecting them to repeat their success here.

Yeah I know, Nnamdi is different. He's a humble yet talented leader who lets his play do all the talking, and I mean [I]all[/I] the talking. He's so humble he's willing to take less money if it means he will get one step closer to winning a Super Bowl. The anti-Haynesworth, it seems. It doesn't matter. This team isn't one shutdown corner away from winning a Super Bowl, and it won't be for quite some time. We have too many holes to fill, and there's no way he'd ever give us the "contender discount."

The Eagles made the right move, and we made the right move as well. All I'm saying is don't think the season is over before it's ever begun. If all these no name guys like John Beck never got a chance to prove themselves, NFL history would be missing a lot of great names, like Kurt Warner, Rod Smith (who was Shanny's discovery), etc. Just give him a chance.[/quote]

Agreed. Great post [IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/images/icons/icon14.gif[/IMG]

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To echo Mooby's very eloquent post, the game is played on the field. And the last time I checked each team has to field 11 players at a time. Asomugha could be a difference maker for the Eagles, but he's still only one player. Albeit an immensely talented one, still just one guy.

This is the NFL. How many times have we seen that one stud go to a team and things just didn't pan out the way it was drawn up on the board. I remember when the 49ers signed Nate Clements, the pundits were falling over themselves anointing them the next great thing. They do it year after year with the Chargers. This year Detroit is everyone's Cindarella favorite.

I like where the Skins are right now and that's all I'm really concerned about.

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[quote=mooby;816653]Bro, I know how it feels to feel like that, since we root for the same team obviously. It looks bad right now, that the rich are getting richer while it seems we're stuck in neutral. But in reality you just need to trust in the coaching staff. They know what they're doing, and the moves we're making right now aren't so that we can win now, they're so we can win in the long term.

Remember how it felt when this team was making big time moves in the offseason, but never the draft? Remember the excitement we all felt when we traded for and/or signed guys like McNabb, Haynesworth, Archuleta, Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, Primetime, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, etc.? At the time, we all thought we were getting players who would be playing at the pinnacle of their positions for a long time. Instead, we got players who never performed or lived up to any expectations.

Over a decade we proved that you can't win consistently by signing big name free agents to big money deals and expecting them to repeat their success here.

Yeah I know, Nnamdi is different. He's a humble yet talented leader who lets his play do all the talking, and I mean [I]all[/I] the talking. He's so humble he's willing to take less money if it means he will get one step closer to winning a Super Bowl. The anti-Haynesworth, it seems. It doesn't matter. This team isn't one shutdown corner away from winning a Super Bowl, and it won't be for quite some time. We have too many holes to fill, and there's no way he'd ever give us the "contender discount."

The Eagles made the right move, and we made the right move as well. All I'm saying is don't think the season is over before it's ever begun. If all these no name guys like John Beck never got a chance to prove themselves, NFL history would be missing a lot of great names, like Kurt Warner, Rod Smith (who was Shanny's discovery), etc. Just give him a chance.[/quote]

Great post, mooby. Really well said. One team's treasure sometimes doesn't amount to anything on the next team. Agreed that both the Eagles and Skins did the right thing by signing/not signing Nnamdi. A few years ago, the Redskins would have already locked up both Nnamdi and Santonio, and already held high profile pressers with both guys.

We're taking a very deliberate, non-flashy approach to building a balanced roster with measured moves... Philly is a team on the cusp of winning it all and has cap room to throw in a monster like Asomugha to get them oh so much closer. Good for both front offices.

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[quote=GMScud;816465]Wow that sucks for rest of the division. If Vick stays healthy (and they get D-Jack signed), Philly is gonna run away with the division.[/quote]

Why?Lets not just anoint them champs just yet,not saying he's not good but teams before have had good players and not won things,....am I right???Eagles are the new cowboys.

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Philly is going to run away with the division but putting together a team that plays well for the next 5-10 years is way more important IMO than rushing to build a winner with overpriced parts

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[quote=mooby;816653]Bro, I know how it feels to feel like that, since we root for the same team obviously. It looks bad right now, that the rich are getting richer while it seems we're stuck in neutral. But in reality you just need to trust in the coaching staff. They know what they're doing, and the moves we're making right now aren't so that we can win now, they're so we can win in the long term.

Remember how it felt when this team was making big time moves in the offseason, but never the draft? Remember the excitement we all felt when we traded for and/or signed guys like McNabb, Haynesworth, Archuleta, Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, Jeff George, Primetime, Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, etc.? At the time, we all thought we were getting players who would be playing at the pinnacle of their positions for a long time. Instead, we got players who never performed or lived up to any expectations.

Over a decade we proved that you can't win consistently by signing big name free agents to big money deals and expecting them to repeat their success here.

Yeah I know, Nnamdi is different. He's a humble yet talented leader who lets his play do all the talking, and I mean [I]all[/I] the talking. He's so humble he's willing to take less money if it means he will get one step closer to winning a Super Bowl. The anti-Haynesworth, it seems. It doesn't matter. This team isn't one shutdown corner away from winning a Super Bowl, and it won't be for quite some time. We have too many holes to fill, and there's no way he'd ever give us the "contender discount."

The Eagles made the right move, and we made the right move as well. All I'm saying is don't think the season is over before it's ever begun. If all these no name guys like John Beck never got a chance to prove themselves, NFL history would be missing a lot of great names, like Kurt Warner, Rod Smith (who was Shanny's discovery), etc. Just give him a chance.[/quote]


:goodjob: Great post.

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Mooby wins this thread.

Good move by Philly, it would have been the wrong move for us.

One move doesn't win you anything.

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Would be crazy if they actually move NA to safety...and it's impressive how for the second year in a row the Eagles have made the surprise off-season move no one saw coming.

I was going to come on here and say how a smart move for one team isn't necessarily the same smart move for another...but Mooby's pretty much made this thread his b*tch

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[quote=Chico23231;816565]Eagles look like paper champions, ha. Everyone knows how that usually goes.[/quote]

And that is why you play the games!

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I'm more worried about vick, mccoy, and jackson. If we are smart we will have cooley and davis go to work at the same time.

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I think everyone is just handing the eagles the division without playing. I personally dont think he is all that. if he was so great why would the raiders let him go, they could have paid him. He cant really tackle in open field. Andwhy would anyone throw to his side, cause the linebackers couldn't cover anyone, so why would they. He can t cover all our guys so no big deal

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Nnamdi is good, but he's no Champ Bailey at his prime and even then Champ got burned here and there. The man is human and will get burned here and there.

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Nnamdi is also 30. It won't be too long before he begins losing some speed.

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Everyone is jumping the Eagles bandwagon. Yes they will be good but i really don't think Vick will match last years play. Yeah yeah...... He knows the system more... blah blah blah....Last year was a freakishly good year for him..... It's not happening again. Not to that level anyway. I just have this gut feeling. They are cocky as hell right now with alot of egos on that team Something will go sour.

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[quote=Lotus;816815][B]Nnamdi is also 30[/B]. It won't be too long before he begins losing some speed.[/quote]
That contract may get a little heavy........as the birthdays come.

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There's a lot of fanbole surrounding the Eagles this morning. Are they loaded up for a possible SB run? Yes, they are. Do they have a stronger roster than the NFC's elite class (Giants, Packers, Saints)? Can't see it. They're weaker at quarterback than all those teams, maybe stronger at WR than the Giants, but all of those teams have an elite pass rush whereas the Eagles have an elite passrusher (Cole), and a bunch of average guys around him.

At best, the Eagles are the 4th best team in the NFC.

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[quote=GTripp0012;816821]There's a lot of fanbole surrounding the Eagles this morning. Are they loaded up for a possible SB run? Yes, they are. Do they have a stronger roster than the NFC's elite class (Giants, Packers, Saints)? Can't see it. They're weaker at quarterback than all those teams, maybe stronger at WR than the Giants, but all of those teams have an elite pass rush whereas the Eagles have an elite passrusher (Cole), and a bunch of average guys around him.

At best, the Eagles are the 4th best team in the NFC.[/quote]

Eli > Vick? Last season says you're wrong. And don't you just get the feeling that should something happen to Vick, VY will step in and shine?

I know Eli is a better pure passer than Vick and has a better body of work over his career, but it's hard to argue that Vick isn't a better offensive weapon right now. Granted it's only one season, so we'll see how it goes this year for Vick.

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[quote=GTripp0012;816821]There's a lot of fanbole surrounding the Eagles this morning. Are they loaded up for a possible SB run? Yes, they are. Do they have a stronger roster than the NFC's elite class (Giants, Packers, Saints)? Can't see it. They're weaker at quarterback than all those teams, maybe stronger at WR than the Giants, [B]but all of those teams have an elite pass rush whereas the Eagles have an elite passrusher (Cole), and a bunch of average guys around him.[/B]

At best, the Eagles are the 4th best team in the NFC.[/quote]

Gtripp, I would've hoped that you of all people wouldn't underestimate the impact that Jim Washburn going to Philly has. If I had to rank their transactions at the top of the list, he'd be right below Nnamdi in terms of potential impact, and right above Jason Babin, which is my next point.

Washburn is one of those guys who is a career lifer as a d-line coach, and he likes it that way. The guy has taken no-name guys and transformed them into elite pass rushers all the time in Tennessee. That's why they were so successful when their d-linemen kept leaving in free agency, they were able to just keep plugging new guys in and keep playing. Washburn made Jason Babin a Pro-Bowl pass rusher in Tennessee, and I have no doubts he'll be able to make a very solid bookend tandem with him and Cole in Philly. The guy knows how to take his players and put them in the absolute best chance to succeed. He is extremely creative.

And also thanks for the kind words guys. Just trying to help a fellow fan out.

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[quote=GMScud;816824]Eli > Vick? Last season says you're wrong. And don't you just get the feeling that should something happen to Vick, VY will step in and shine?

I know Eli is a better pure passer than Vick and has a better body of work over his career, but it's hard to argue that Vick isn't a better offensive weapon right now. Granted it's only one season, so we'll see how it goes this year for Vick.[/quote]Eli's yards per attempt, net yards per attempt, sack rate, TD proficiency, and completion percentage all moved up into the Peyton Manning/Phillip Rivers elitest of the elite territory over the last two years.

Any argument that Vick was better last year or is better now is pretty much based on the interceptions statistic, where Vick had that long streak of interception-free games in the middle of last season and Eli threw a bunch of tipped passes off the hands of backup receivers which landed in the hands of dbs.

As basic as I can put it, Eli threw for 4,000 yards last year, pro bowler Vick threw for 3,000. Yes, missed time is the biggest reason why that happened. But still: we pick pro bowlers stupidly. Film analysis would back the idea that Eli does a much better job of working with bodies around him and quickly finding the open guy than Vick. Perhaps that's just a function of Vick being a first year starter in his own offense. I kind of doubt it though.

Anyway, once the INTs for each player regress towards the mean, you're left with a system QB in Vick, and maybe a top 5 to 8 QB in Manning.

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[quote=mooby;816829]Gtripp, I would've hoped that you of all people wouldn't underestimate the impact that Jim Washburn going to Philly has. If I had to rank their transactions at the top of the list, he'd be right below Nnamdi in terms of potential impact, and right above Jason Babin, which is my next point.

Washburn is one of those guys who is a career lifer as a d-line coach, and he likes it that way. The guy has taken no-name guys and transformed them into elite pass rushers all the time in Tennessee. That's why they were so successful when their d-linemen kept leaving in free agency, they were able to just keep plugging new guys in and keep playing. Washburn made Jason Babin a Pro-Bowl pass rusher in Tennessee, and I have no doubts he'll be able to make a very solid bookend tandem with him and Cole in Philly. The guy knows how to take his players and put them in the absolute best chance to succeed. He is extremely creative.

And also thanks for the kind words guys. Just trying to help a fellow fan out.[/quote]Jim Washburn is a well respected coach, but his units results just haven't been there since Schwartz left. Babin was fantastic for 7 or 8 games last year when he had something like 9 sacks at the midway point. From that point forward, he was pretty much just Jason Babin and his team went 1-7.

Cole is a superstar that no one ever hears about. But I feel like his effectiveness could be limited in a "wide nines" rush scheme of sorts, the kind of scheme Washburn used sans Haynesworth to make players like Babin useful. I don't know what Washburn is going to do with his unit, but I don't see it being any better than the Eagles DL last year.

The biggest problem with the Eagles DL this year is that Brandon Graham is still hurt. He's the next top NFC East pass rusher. But perhaps not this year.

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[quote=GTripp0012;816837]Jim Washburn is a well respected coach, but his units results just haven't been there since Schwartz left. Babin was fantastic for 7 or 8 games last year when he had something like 9 sacks at the midway point. From that point forward, he was pretty much just Jason Babin and his team went 1-7.

Cole is a superstar that no one ever hears about. But I feel like his effectiveness could be limited in a "wide nines" rush scheme of sorts, the kind of scheme Washburn used sans Haynesworth to make players like Babin useful. I don't know what Washburn is going to do with his unit, but I don't see it being any better than the Eagles DL last year.

The biggest problem with the Eagles DL this year is that Brandon Graham is still hurt. He's the next top NFC East pass rusher. But perhaps not this year.[/quote]

Alls I'm gonna say is I think the problems in Philly last year were a mix of lack of talent and lack of good coaching. With Washburn in there, there definitely won't be a lack of coaching. I think he'll be able to play to his players' strengths and we're going to see Philly's d-line looking way better this year.

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[quote=mooby;816839]Alls I'm gonna say is I think the problems in Philly last year were a mix of lack of talent and lack of good coaching. With Washburn in there, there definitely won't be a lack of coaching. I think he'll be able to play to his players' strengths and we're going to see Philly's d-line looking way better this year.[/quote]Another thing: the Kyle Shanahan offense is almost the ideal counter-attack to what the strength of the Eagles defense is this year: limited formation diversity, play action heavy attack, outside runs at poor tackling corners (basically, anyone but Asomugha), just limiting the amount of dbs who can safely be on the field.

Would not shock me if we go 6-10 this year, but beat the Eagles twice.

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[quote=GTripp0012;816840]Another thing: the Kyle Shanahan offense is almost the ideal counter-attack to what the strength of the Eagles defense is this year: limited formation diversity, play action heavy attack, outside runs at poor tackling corners (basically, anyone but Asomugha), just limiting the amount of dbs who can safely be on the field.

Would not shock me if we go 6-10 this year, but beat the Eagles twice.[/quote]

I agree with you on those points, but we won't beat the Eagles any time if we can't stop Vick. He absolutely destroyed us in the 2nd game. They are beatable, but not if Vick can exploit every single opportunity against us like he did last year.

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[quote=mooby;816843]I agree with you on those points, but we won't beat the Eagles any time if we can't stop Vick. He absolutely destroyed us in the 2nd game. They are beatable, but not if Vick can exploit every single opportunity against us like he did last year.[/quote]You just have to get pressure on him. When we played him at FedEx last year, the field conditions basically prevented us from getting close to him all game.

No pressure on a locked-in Vick and those receivers? Yeah, you'll be chasing 4 TDs at some point.

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[quote=GTripp0012;816848]You just have to get pressure on him. When we played him at FedEx last year, the field conditions basically prevented us from getting close to him all game.

No pressure on a locked-in Vick and those receivers? Yeah, you'll be chasing 4 TDs at some point.[/quote]

If we can contain Vick we will have a shot. But last year showed that's no sure thing. I think Haslett will definitely be more creative this time around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

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[quote=mooby;816851]If we can contain Vick we will have a shot. But last year showed that's no sure thing. I think Haslett will definitely be more creative this time around. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.[/quote]Last year, again because of field conditions, we couldn't even tackle him in the open field.

But outside of that, I wouldn't worry about containing him. Just don't let him break the pocket to his left. If he wants to step up and run: fine. He's 31 years old. You pay your LBs for a reason.

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Haslett makes good adjustments as games go along. He sometimes amplifies existing personnel issues by being hardheaded, but unlike Blache, if one of our division rivals came out and moved the ball on us in the first half, we generally had them figured out by the second half.

To clarify: the decision to start Kedric Golston after Week 6 was indefensible, and continued for seven games after that. Lost maybe multiple games because of a refusal to start our best players up front. But even in games we lost, we typically did better in the second half than first half. It's been years since that was the case here on defense.

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[quote=Mattyk;816463]The can't keep all 3 corners, Samuel is probably going to get dealt.[/quote]

There may be a deal in the works but I don't understand why they cannot keep all three guys. They are nowhere near over the cap... Gives then three man-coverage guys for when the offense puts three WRs on the field.

Not sure why keeping all three is impossible...

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Why would they not keep all 3? Samuel as the 3 would be nasty

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;816864]There may be a deal in the works but I don't understand why they cannot keep all three guys. They are nowhere near over the cap... Gives then three man-coverage guys for when the offense puts three WRs on the field.

Not sure why keeping all three is impossible...[/quote]

If they keep Samuel ($9 mil) and Nnamdi ($12 mil), that is $21 mil. or 1/6 of the cap just in two corners. Their linebacking needs work, their OL needs work, Desean is demanding $$$, etc. Having just two corners eat up 1/6 of the cap is problematic or more teams would do it.

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[quote=Lotus;816867]If they keep Samuel ($9 mil) and Nnamdi ($12 mil), that is $21 mil. or 1/6 of the cap just in two corners. Their linebacking needs work, their OL needs work, Desean is demanding $$$, etc. Having just two corners eat up 1/6 of the cap is problematic or more teams would do it.[/quote]I was just about to say that pretty much only one premier FA remains on defense, Cullen Jenkins.

Schefter just reported a second ago that they signed Cullen Jenkins for 5/25. Which changes the tenor of my post.

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I'm not gonna say Grossman... I cant .. I won't...

But when we play the Eagles... BECK needs to work the middle and the slot.
Hopefully that Oline holds up n we run some drag routes and hope Nnamdi and Samuel get lost in they're coverage. Seeing they're both elite it will be a tough assignment for a first year starter but we got this! Cooley all day

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The Eagles are definitely trying to exploit the win-now market inefficiency in talented thirty somethings on the FA market. Jenkins and Asomugha 2 of top 12 rated defensive free agents for me.

Jenkins is a big addition in that front. Instantly the second best player on the DL for them.

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The flip side is: the Eagles aren't the young, talented team, they've always been in the past, which is a Howie Roseman effect. 25 and under prospects: DRC, Nate Allen, that one linebacker whose name escapes me, Brandon Graham, Jackson, Maclin all great talents, but this is an oldish team.

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Their roster still isn't as talented as the Giants, Saints, or Packers, and I don't expect them to finish in front of any of those teams.

But the Eagles have "won" free agency. They entered with a roster about as good as the Cowboys. Now very clearly have relegated Dallas to third in division status with their moves the last three days.

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I honestly think Cullen Jenkins is overrated. Not is the sense that hes a bad player or anything, but people have been acting like hes some elite DL, which i just dont think is true. Hes a slightly above average 30 year old 3-4 DE to me. Also doesnt Philly primarily play a 4-3??? Did that change?

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[quote=mlmpetert;816879]I honestly think Cullen Jenkins is overrated. Not is the sense that hes a bad player or anything, but people have been acting like hes some elite DL, which i just dont think is true. Hes a slightly above average 30 year old 3-4 DE to me. Also doesnt Philly primarily play a 4-3??? Did that change?[/quote]Jenkins is better for the 4-3 than the 3-4. But he can do both more than adequately and still get after the passer.

The biggest concern with Jenkins is he's never been much of a high snaps/game guy. If you thought Haynesworth needed to come out of the game often, Jenkins doesn't play nearly as many snaps per game as that.

He's lethal when he's in the game though.