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[quote=Mattyk;881571]lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.

Hilarious.[/quote]

People are acting like this guy cleared Manning...

[IMG]http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Dr-Nick-Riviera.png[/IMG]

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[quote=SkinzWin;881572]Just like a Dr. wouldn't stake their reputation writing prescriptions for illegal performance enhancing HGH steroids for professional baseball players? Deception and illegal actions in medicine are just as prevalent as in all other industries. I believe it would be naive to think otherwise.[/quote]

lol foreign doctors? That particular doctor was in Canada, and most went to him because he would prescribe HGH. This wasn't some big time doc like Dr. Andrews with the Redskins. Notice he wasn't giving out HGH to players.


Also, your point is invalid the moment the Colts neurosurgeon cleared him as well. Even if he got some random doctor to clear him, the team doctor wouldn't have. In fact, it would have been in the Colts best interest if he hadn't cleared.

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[quote=Mattyk;881571]lol I'm not a Dr. but, here's my medical opinion.

Hilarious.[/quote]

Glad I could fill that prescription for you. That will be $10 for your co-pay.

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[quote=NC_Skins;881576]lol foreign doctors? That particular doctor was in Canada, and most went to him because he would prescribe HGH. This wasn't some big time doc like Dr. Andrews with the Redskins. Notice he wasn't giving out HGH to players.


Also, your point is invalid the moment the Colts neurosurgeon cleared him as well. Even if he got some random doctor to clear him, the team doctor wouldn't have. In fact, it would have been in the Colts best interest if he hadn't cleared.[/quote]

Then why did Irsay refute the Colt's own Dr. assessment?

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[quote=SkinzWin;881583]Then why did Irsay refute the Colt's own Dr. assessment?[/quote]

Irsay is saying he hasn't passed a team physical, therefore he hasn't been cleared to play for the Colts.

PM's Dr. is saying his neck is sound, which is true, the arm is another story.

Both sides are just politicking at this point.

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It could just be that Peyton has not taken an official Colts physical exam recently. If irsay is going to spout that he has not been cleared by the Colts then he should tell everyone the date of the last failed Colts physical.

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Well everyone seems to very against what I have said, and maybe I am wrong on all accounts previously mentioned. As I said, I'm not a doctor. I just think it is hard to believe with the condition that he has and all the surgeries he has been through that he can't be 100% next season. At the end of the day I just don't want to take a risk on a 36 year old guy with a degenerative neck disease and three neck fusions to lead our football team.

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[quote=Ruhskins;881575]People are acting like this guy cleared Manning...

[IMG]http://thestandard.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Dr-Nick-Riviera.png[/IMG][/quote]

LOL you can go ahead and just say my name instead of people ;)

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[quote=SmootSmack;881562]man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people[/quote]

Haha, I am a quiet guy by nature and I guess it just translates the boards as well, and I take this time to personally thank you SS, Matty and everyone else for the quality posts that have kept me entertained and informed over the last 4 years. Hopefully I am turning a page and will someday get out of this NEWB avatar. But you're also correct, if the brass thinks that Colt is the answer to anything I will think chaos theory makes more sense than the thinking of the Redskins FO. Not to say that they currently aren't far off.

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[quote=SmootSmack;881505]Hypothetically, what if you could sign Peyton and hold onto your #6 overall pick and take Tannehill there. Or even trade down some and take Tannehill (or whatever QB you prefer) and add more picks.

In other words, what's worth more Luck/Bradford/RG3 starting now and a significant loss of draft picks or Tannehill (or whoever) starting in 2 years with all your draft picks and maybe more?[/quote]

Indirectly, I don't care about players' salaries or the salary cap. What's ****s with me is the "Dream Team" fallacy. Manning and the "highest paid quarterback" nomenclature that comes along with signing him and being able to continue to build the team through the draft sounds great. And no, don't draft Tannehill or any QB at 6th overall unless it's Luck or RG3. And do you guys think Manning will have some influence on the draft? Are we still in hypothetical land? Good. Manning may not be peeking into the war room come draft day but, it would be a smart thing to put in a few cogs to keep Manning from appearing over-the-hill. One has to consider that there hasn't been a legitimate QB groomed under Manning. Why think Tannehill, Cousins, or whoever will be the first? The Skins would be better off Signing Archie...

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[quote=Mattyk;881545]We sure have a lot of doctors in the house eh?

lol

The Dr. who performed his surgery cleared him, of course he still has to keep rehabbing to get the strength back in his arm, but regardless it sounds like he's on the right track.[/quote]

The mechanic that rebuilt the motor.. etc... nothing against you as you're just relaying

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[quote=goskins424;881596]Haha, I am a quiet guy by nature and I guess it just translates the boards as well, and I take this time to personally thank you SS, Matty and everyone else for the quality posts that have kept me entertained and informed over the last 4 years. Hopefully I am turning a page and will someday get out of this NEWB avatar. But you're also correct, if the brass thinks that Colt is the answer to anything I will think chaos theory makes more sense than the thinking of the Redskins FO. Not to say that they currently aren't far off.[/quote]

*Holds breath until after 10 posts.*

Seriously though people with good grammar are always welcome in my book. Unless all they're interested in is self promotion. You feel new, so my natural course of action is to say welcome, and yet you've been lurking for 4 years. So... enjoy your stay! Also, the foof thread is for adults only. ;)

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[quote=Mattyk;881586]Irsay is saying he hasn't passed a team physical, therefore he hasn't been cleared to play for the Colts.

PM's Dr. is saying his neck is sound, which is true, the arm is another story.

Both sides are just politicking at this point.[/quote]

Read between the lines. Manning was cleared by two doctors to take the team physical, without any bathroom breaks that is...

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[quote=goskins424;881596]Haha, I am a quiet guy by nature and I guess it just translates the boards as well, and I take this time to personally thank you SS, Matty and everyone else for the quality posts that have kept me entertained and informed over the last 4 years. Hopefully I am turning a page and will someday get out of this NEWB avatar. But you're also correct, if the brass thinks that Colt is the answer to anything I will think chaos theory makes more sense than the thinking of the Redskins FO. Not to say that they currently aren't far off.[/quote]

Go to your user profile and pick yourself out a new avatar. The newb is just the default one.

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[quote=goskins424;881596]Haha, I am a quiet guy by nature and I guess it just translates the boards as well, and I take this time to personally thank you SS, Matty and everyone else for the quality posts that have kept me entertained and informed over the last 4 years. Hopefully I am turning a page and [B]will someday get out of this NEWB avatar[/B]. But you're also correct, if the brass thinks that Colt is the answer to anything I will think chaos theory makes more sense than the thinking of the Redskins FO. Not to say that they currently aren't far off.[/quote]
Greetings GoSkins....
You will have to hurry as based on your production thus far, you will still be a Newb for 138 years..........with good behavior. Fear not, I know that "EGO" avatar of Matty's is a little spooky (scares the crap outta' me as well)...
POST ON! Good to have you here!

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[quote=Mattyk;881624]Go to your user profile and pick yourself out a new avatar. The newb is just the default one.[/quote]

Nah, make him earn it!

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[quote=skinsfan69;881492]So some doctor cleared him? Did the people in the NFL actually clear him? I have to say Manning is one of the most media savy athletes ever... and I think this is his way of forcing the owners hand. Also couldn't they wait a week til the Super Bowl is over with? Talk about raining on your lil' brothers parade.[/quote]

who in the world said peyton released ANY info? just because every sports outlet knows how great the guy is, and is jacking him off, dont blame this shit on him. His owner is the idiot in the silver suit trying to wiggle out of the situation. Talk about lack of professionalism. Peyton Manning is the ultimate professional.

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[quote=SkinzWin;881544]He is NOT healthy, I guarantee you that. No one that has had 3 neck fusion surgeries in 10 months is healthy at this point or IMO even by the beginning of next season. And I will bet everything I own on the fact that he will never play at as high a level as he has in the past IF he even ever plays again at all. I know everyone is enamored with the fact that we could get him for cash instead of picks, but I just think it is not the direction we should be going.

Let's say this happens:

1) We sign Peyton Manning and draft Tannehill in the draft.
2) Peyton starts game 1 of the season, takes a big hit and is knocked out for the season and possibly career because of his previous history with neck issues.
3) Tannehill or possible other QB on the roster starts? Tannehill would not be ready, and a back up would most likely not be able to sustain what is necessary to win many games.

Where are we now? Out a lot of cash and not in a position to have a viable QB leading our team once again. And I'm not saying I am only for trading up and giving away picks for a top level QB, I am just saying I'm not for taking a risk on Manning.[/quote]

WOW, where in the world did you get your MD? CJU?

Whew, so relieved to know we have some inside information here at the warpath. SmootSmack is one thing, but this guy IS PEYTONS SHOULDER!!!!! FANTASTIC!!!!!!

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I think that's a bit much. No need to be calling him an idiot

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[quote=Evilgrin;881549]Except for MS, why does Manning want to come here?[/quote]

He does'nt,fans want hime becuase the fans think everyone wants to come here and play.
If Peyton wants to extend his career he'll go somewhere warm and even he admits he plays his best in a dome,don't rule out Arizona just yet they can dump Cobb and they have everything in place if Peyton wanted to play.

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When did Peyton get diagnosed with Spinal Stenosis? That is his brother, they never linked him to the disorder.

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I guess the real issue is what does he look like throwing the ball.

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[quote=Giantone;881650]He does'nt,fans want hime becuase the fans think everyone wants to come here and play.
If Peyton wants to extend his career he'll go somewhere warm and even he admits he plays his best in a dome,don't rule out Arizona just yet they can dump Cobb and they have everything in place if Peyton wanted to play.[/quote]

2. He's an indoor quarterback ?» Yeah, and Michelangelo was a ceiling painter. In his last two seasons, Manning was a better passer outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. In 2010, his passer rating was 98.0 on the road and 85.4 at home. In 2009, it was 112.6 on the road and 89.9 at home.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/cheers-jeers/2012/02/reasons-bring-manning-dc/2159141#ixzz1lMBgfOZ5]Top five: Reasons to discredit Manning to D.C. doubters | Kevin Dunleavy | Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner[/url]

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Maybe Andrew Luck is going to be like "This is madness! I can't play for an owner who takes to Twitter to air his grievances with players. I need stability. I need someone who won't tweet. I need to play for Dan Snyder"

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[quote=SmootSmack;881669]Maybe Andrew Luck is going to be like "This is madness! I can't play for an owner who takes to Twitter to air his grievances with players. I need stability. I need someone who won't tweet. I need to play for Dan Snyder"[/quote]

Maybe Jim Irsay will come out and explain how he thought Twitter was his private diary too. :laughing-

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[quote=SmootSmack;881669]Maybe Andrew Luck is going to be like "This is madness! I can't play for an owner who takes to Twitter to air his grievances with players. I need stability. I need someone who won't tweet. [B]I need to play for Dan Snyder[/B]"[/quote]

I heard that to...Check [COLOR=Red]My BLOG[/COLOR]....
If I was PM, I would be looking for a team in position to make a SB run and needed a QB. He only has a few seasons left...probably. That really is not us as we have a little more work to do I would think.

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[quote=Mechanix544;881640]WOW, where in the world did you get your MD? CJU?

Whew, so relieved to know we have some inside information here at the warpath. SmootSmack is one thing, but this guy IS PEYTONS SHOULDER!!!!! FANTASTIC!!!!!![/quote]

I'm not a doctor. Teacher. They are close enough right? I guess it's forbidden to have a bit of fun around here nowadays... I suppose I have to have more posts under my belt to be over the top around here? ;)

I try to make honest, common sense conversation around here most of the time. At least I'm not johnny5dickey...

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Maybe you slept at a Holiday Inn....Express?

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[quote=Hog1;881724]Maybe you slept at a Holiday Inn....Express?[/quote]

You know what is really weird? They built a Holiday Inn right next to Holiday Inn Express in Richmond. Then what the heck are you supposed to do?!? That's a tougher choice than Luck vs. RGIII...

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Lol

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The Off-season..
It's just to much.......I'll be in the drunk thread..

Re: Peyton manning cleared to play
 

[quote=SmootSmack;881669]Maybe Andrew Luck is going to be like "This is madness! I can't play for an owner who takes to Twitter to air his grievances with players. I need stability. I need someone who won't tweet. I need to play for Dan Snyder"[/quote]

We need Andrew Luck to put down his gameboy, and pick up a playboy.

[QUOTE=Hog1;881734]The Off-season..
It's just to much.......I'll be in the drunk thread..[/QUOTE]

Like this every year.. soon youll see a new thread.... "The skins are interested in drew brees " just wait

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[quote=SmootSmack;881669]Maybe Andrew Luck is going to be like "This is madness! I can't play for an owner who takes to Twitter to air his grievances with players. I need stability. I need someone who won't tweet. I need to play for Dan Snyder"[/quote]

....what was I thinking?:silly:

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[quote=Mattyk;881659]2. He's an indoor quarterback ?» Yeah, and Michelangelo was a ceiling painter. In his last two seasons, Manning was a better passer outside of Lucas Oil Stadium. In 2010, his passer rating was 98.0 on the road and 85.4 at home. In 2009, it was 112.6 on the road and 89.9 at home.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: [URL="http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/cheers-jeers/2012/02/reasons-bring-manning-dc/2159141#ixzz1lMBgfOZ5"]Top five: Reasons to discredit Manning to D.C. doubters | Kevin Dunleavy | Cheers & Jeers | Washington Examiner[/URL][/quote]



Passer ratings don't mean a thing an you know it but you are right ... an aging QB with possible injury problems would rather play in the cold in the N.East then indoors or at least where they can close the roof and most of the opponents have the same (or close to it)...my bad:)

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[quote=SkinzWin;881725]You know what is really weird? They built a Holiday Inn right next to Holiday Inn Express in Richmond. Then what the heck are you supposed to do?!? That's a tougher choice than Luck vs. RGIII...[/quote]

Kinda like the Starbucks across the street from a Starbucks.

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[quote=mooby;881607]*Holds breath until after 10 posts.*

Seriously though people with good grammar are always welcome in my book. Unless all they're interested in is self promotion. You feel new, so my natural course of action is to say welcome, and yet you've been lurking for 4 years. So... enjoy your stay! Also, the foof thread is for adults only. ;)[/quote]

So you just gonna throw me under the bus?

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[quote=SmootSmack;881562]man...first post over 4 years after joining. Earthquake and Colt have quite an effect on people[/quote]

What can I say? I'm a winner.

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[quote=Higskin;881568]I'm not a Dr. but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. Does that count?

Seriously though, the nerves that fire to his tricep are what's holding things up. Problem is you get muscular atrophy because muscles need nerve stimulation to exist. There's treatments like steriods (LOL), electrical stimulation, rigorous exercises trying to jump start those nerves, etc.

His neck is what all the Doc's are okaying.[/quote]

So we are gonna steal EARTHQUAKE'S jokes now? LOL

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[quote=SkinzWin;881563]Based on the evidence of spinal stenosis being a narrowing of the spine that deteriorates over time and that three spinal fusions in the same place over a 10 month period is not reassuring in the fact that it is getting better, more likely that it is getting worse.

Although I am not a Dr. or medical expert, I am fairly confident from what I have looked into the matter that a typical spinal fusion is only needed on a specific vertebrae once. People often have multiple fusions if they have a neck and spinal disorder, but on different vertebrae. The fact that he has had three surgeries on the same area is, IMO, a very telling outcome and not in a positive way.[/quote]

Seeing as how Peyton doesn't have Spinal Stenosis what are you talking about?