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CultBrennan59 02-10-2012 01:21 AM

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I read somewhere (either profootballfocus or twitter) that Stanford Routt led the league in TD's allowed (9) and penalties (17) among corners. No Thanks! Also I loved the idea of getting Brandon Carr, then I noticed that Carr would go against the teams no. 2 WR, which makes him less attractive to me as a FA option.

That Guy 02-10-2012 02:15 AM

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the only real CBs i'd look at would be grimes or drafting claiborne.

CultBrennan59 02-10-2012 02:20 AM

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[quote=That Guy;883870]the only real CBs i'd look at would be grimes or drafting claiborne.[/quote]

Finnegan, Tarrell Thomas, Tracy Porter..you wouldn't go for one of them either?

tc2deuce 02-10-2012 02:56 AM

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You can add Carr to the list

skinsfaninok 02-10-2012 06:03 AM

Kc says they are wanting to keep carr

biffle 02-10-2012 09:39 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;883875]Kc says they are wanting to keep carr[/quote]

I'm sure they are. But they just gave 9 mil per year to Flowers, so you have to wonder how wise it would be to sign another CB to elite level money.

I'll be watching what kind of a tender Will Middleton gets. He could be a major FA sleeper, imo.

NC_Skins 02-10-2012 09:48 AM

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[quote=30gut;883633]Interesting stuff.
Bates back with Cutler is a good move for the Bears because Mike Tice in charge of the passing game was sure to be a disaster.

The Chiefs kinda screwed Zorn over though.[/quote]

Not sure how. He turned down their offer to be the OC.


I don't understand why they are willing to let him walk, but not interview for the other OC job in Chicago.

SmootSmack 02-10-2012 10:09 AM

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I never met Zorn but from all accounts I've heard from others who have he's a really nice guy who people foolishly believe is a pushover. He's not the innocent victim in these multiple dismissals from teams he's had over the years. He shrewdly plays sides is what I've heard and that ultimately leads to locker room strife

30gut 02-10-2012 10:32 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;883917]Not sure how. He turned down their offer to be the OC.
I don't understand why they are willing to let him walk, but not interview for the other OC job in Chicago.[/quote]Not sure how they screwed him over? Scratches head.
He [I][B]did not[/B][/I] turn down their offer to be OC.

You explain how they screwed him over in your own post.
They denied him an interview with the Bears and [I]then[/I] passing him over for their own OC job.

In the meantime the Bears hired Bates as their QB coach and other coaching spots around the league have been filled.

CultBrennan59 02-10-2012 11:40 AM

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[quote=tc2deuce;883874]You can add Carr to the list[/quote]

I was replying to his comment which mentioned Carr...

CultBrennan59 02-10-2012 11:45 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;883922]I never met Zorn but from all accounts I've heard from others who have he's a really nice guy [B]who people foolishly believe is a pushover.[/B] He's not the innocent victim in these multiple dismissals from teams he's had over the years. He shrewdly plays sides is what I've heard and that ultimately leads to locker room strife[/quote]

[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/trout1zorn.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zorntaylorthrow.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zornportisamused.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zornorbs2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/facesofzornbigorb.bmp[/IMG] [IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zornwhat2.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zornfreeze.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/zornstaring.jpg[/IMG]
....go on...

mbedner3420 02-10-2012 11:56 AM

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^ hahahahahahaha post of the day

skinsguy 02-10-2012 12:09 PM

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LOL! The many faces of Zorn! Love it!

skinsfaninok 02-10-2012 12:10 PM

Lmmfao!! U know Zorn was a cool ass dude

NC_Skins 02-10-2012 12:30 PM

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CB59, that post was awesome.


[IMG]http://dc-hub.interactiveone.com/files/2010/01/jim-zorn-thumbs-up.jpg[/IMG]


[quote=SmootSmack;883922]He shrewdly plays sides is what I've heard and that ultimately leads to locker room strife[/quote]

Looks to me he's choosing the wrong side to pick. :cheeky-sm

los panda 02-10-2012 02:15 PM

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yes. that's about the only thing i miss from zorny

That Guy 02-10-2012 04:40 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;883873]Finnegan, Tarrell Thomas, Tracy Porter..you wouldn't go for one of them either?[/quote]

I'd add carr... I'm not sure those other 3 are anything more than trading out one part for another. if we can cut hall, sign them and save cap i guess, but eh...

SmootSmack 02-12-2012 03:08 PM

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Damn, this is tragic

[url=http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2012/02/tommie_harris_wife_on_life_sup.html]Tommie Harris' wife on life support - Inside the Bears[/url]

Hog1 02-12-2012 03:12 PM

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Wow...to young for this type of thing to happen. I hope there is some way this comes out good....

NYCskinfan82 02-12-2012 04:04 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;884603]Damn, this is tragic

[url=http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2012/02/tommie_harris_wife_on_life_sup.html]Tommie Harris' wife on life support - Inside the Bears[/url][/quote]

I will pray for a miracle.

Skinsfanmania 02-12-2012 05:03 PM

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[quote=Hog1;883188]What's the testing frequency for multiple losers? I assume they step up the testing schedule........?[/quote]

Everytime they urinate they pee into a cup!

mooby 02-12-2012 07:40 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;884603]Damn, this is tragic

[url=http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2012/02/tommie_harris_wife_on_life_sup.html]Tommie Harris' wife on life support - Inside the Bears[/url][/quote]

Wow. I really hope she pulls through, sounds like she needs all the support she can get now.

NC_Skins 02-12-2012 08:01 PM

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7565340/tampa-bay-buccaneers-bid-san-francisco-49ers-dbs-coach-ed-donatell-denied-source-says]Tampa Bay Buccaneers' bid for San Francisco 49ers DBs coach Ed Donatell denied, source says - ESPN[/url]

Wonder if he's pissed he got denied a chance to take a defensive coordinator position?


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7568999/billy-cundiff-says-baltimore-ravens-supported-shanked-fg]Billy Cundiff says Baltimore Ravens supported him after shanked FG - ESPN[/url]

mooby 02-12-2012 08:36 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;884700][url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7565340/tampa-bay-buccaneers-bid-san-francisco-49ers-dbs-coach-ed-donatell-denied-source-says]Tampa Bay Buccaneers' bid for San Francisco 49ers DBs coach Ed Donatell denied, source says - ESPN[/url]

[B]Wonder if he's pissed he got denied a chance to take a defensive coordinator position?[/B]


[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7568999/billy-cundiff-says-baltimore-ravens-supported-shanked-fg]Billy Cundiff says Baltimore Ravens supported him after shanked FG - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I've pondered that as well. I know in this case it's probably Jim Harbaugh who denied him permission because that's in Harbaugh's best interests of the team and keeping it together, but if I were Donatell I'd probably be slightly upset at first that I've been denied the opportunity to interview for a chance to keep moving up the coaching ladder.

Sure, I'd probably get over it eventually and just get back to work intent on proving myself some more, but whose to say he would feel the same way as me? You never know how many opportunities you're going to get, so you gotta take advantage of them when they present themselves.

skinsfanthru&thru 02-12-2012 08:52 PM

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[quote=mooby;884707]I've pondered that as well. I know in this case it's probably Jim Harbaugh who denied him permission because that's in Harbaugh's best interests of the team and keeping it together, but if I were Donatell I'd probably be slightly upset at first that I've been denied the opportunity to interview for a chance to keep moving up the coaching ladder.

Sure, I'd probably get over it eventually and just get back to work intent on proving myself some more, but whose to say he would feel the same way as me? You never know how many opportunities you're going to get, so you gotta take advantage of them when they present themselves.[/quote]

I think this brings the Bucs total of being denied an interview of a positional coach for either OC or DC to 3 times if memory serves correctly with another straight up rejection by a candidate to boot.

REDSKINS4ever 02-12-2012 10:04 PM

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I wonder which quarterback Mike Shanahan was most impressed with who participated in the Senior Bowl.

los panda 02-13-2012 02:30 AM

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probably johnny utah

MTK 02-13-2012 08:06 AM

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sad story

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/13/report-wife-of-tommie-harris-dies-at-29/]Report: Wife of Tommie Harris dies at 29 | ProFootballTalk[/url]

NC_Skins 02-13-2012 08:33 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;884806]sad story

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/13/report-wife-of-tommie-harris-dies-at-29/]Report: Wife of Tommie Harris dies at 29 | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

That's absolutely horrible. Too young. I feel for Tommy and his kids. No kid should grow up without both of their parents.

SmootSmack 02-13-2012 10:07 AM

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So I was just watching Randy Moss' impromptu ustream session and he says he'd like to return to the NFL

NC_Skins 02-13-2012 10:41 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;884839]So I was just watching Randy Moss' impromptu ustream session and he says he'd like to return to the NFL[/quote]


Eff Randy Moss. Nobody wants that clown anymore. He and TO need to buy a place together and be roommates. When talent is no longer able to compensate for the headaches you bring, you'll soon be unemployed.

skinsguy 02-13-2012 10:45 AM

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Moss must be broke.

mooby 02-13-2012 10:57 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;884806]sad story

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/13/report-wife-of-tommie-harris-dies-at-29/"]Report: Wife of Tommie Harris dies at 29 | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

Ouch. I can't imagine what Tommie Harris is going through right now. I feel for their kids.

TexSkins 02-13-2012 11:02 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;884839]So I was just watching Randy Moss' impromptu ustream session and he says he'd like to return to the NFL[/quote]

As long as he stays away from DC

NC_Skins 02-13-2012 11:04 AM

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ahmad-bradshaw-says-cowboys-won-t-win-tony-192548301.html]Ahmad Bradshaw says Cowboys won’t win with Tony Romo at QB | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Bradshaw should probably STFU. Kid almost blew the game for the Giants with his fumble and his bone headed score with time on the clock.

mooby 02-13-2012 11:07 AM

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[quote=NC_Skins;884860][URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ahmad-bradshaw-says-cowboys-won-t-win-tony-192548301.html"]Ahmad Bradshaw says Cowboys won’t win with Tony Romo at QB | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/URL]

Bradshaw should probably STFU. Kid almost blew the game for the Giants with his fumble and his bone headed score with time on the clock.[/quote]

I don't think it was a bone-headed score, that was the score that won the game for them. Was it ideal at the time? No, but as long as the Giants D took care of business (which they did) it wouldn't have mattered, (which it didn't). Besides, FG's are never guaranteed either, just ask our ST unit.

Lotus 02-13-2012 11:09 AM

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[quote=mooby;884861]I don't think it was a bone-headed score, that was the score that won the game for them. Was it ideal at the time? No, but as long as the Giants D took care of business (which they did) it wouldn't have mattered, (which it didn't). Besides, FG's are never guaranteed either, just ask our ST unit.[/quote]

Plus, the guy has had it drilled in his head his whole life to seek the goal line with gusto. Then, that one time, he's supposed to automatically fight that conditioning? Obviously it can be done, as Brian Westbrook proved. But it is difficult.

mooby 02-13-2012 11:12 AM

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[quote=Lotus;884863]Plus, the guy has had it drilled in his head his whole life to seek the goal line with gusto. Then, that one time, he's supposed to automatically fight that conditioning? Obviously it can be done, as Brian Westbrook proved. But it is difficult.[/quote]

That too. It's not easy to burst through a line at full speed, and then fall down at the 1 while making sure the ball doesn't break the plane, even in the event the Patriots defenders try to push you in (which I think they were preparing to do).

SmootSmack 02-13-2012 11:18 AM

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I don't know. I mean if it were for me, it'd be really hard to resist getting the opportunity to score a TD in the Super Bowl. I probably would have run up and down the goal line for a few seconds. Maybe done a moonwalk or something...and then scored.

Ruhskins 02-13-2012 11:23 AM

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[quote=mooby;884861]I don't think it was a bone-headed score, that was the score that won the game for them. Was it ideal at the time? No, but as long as the Giants D took care of business (which they did) it wouldn't have mattered, (which it didn't). Besides, FG's are never guaranteed either, [B]just ask our ST unit.[/B][/quote]

...or Billy Cundiff.

[quote=NC_Skins;884860][url=http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/ahmad-bradshaw-says-cowboys-won-t-win-tony-192548301.html]Ahmad Bradshaw says Cowboys won’t win with Tony Romo at QB | Shutdown Corner - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Bradshaw should probably STFU. Kid almost blew the game for the Giants with his fumble and his bone headed score with time on the clock.[/quote]

What do you expect him to say. The guy scored the game winning TD in the SB, he can say whatever the hell he wants in my book. Plus, since when do we care about what people say about the Cowpukes?


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