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So is it offical that its 3 firsts and a 2nd? Or might be we be getting a later round pick(s) somewhere too?

I mean, I wanted RGIII, I'm happy we got him... think it's too much, no doubt...

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[quote=GTripp0012;894414]I feel like you are a huge douche.[/quote]

Hear hear.

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[quote=WaldSkins;894436]I dont like this trade at all. I dont mind the 3 first but the 2nd is what kills it[/quote]Agreed. That ups the value of the compensation by like 40%.

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In team sports one guy isn't going to make a huge difference, unless you have a decent supporting cast. This team is deficient in too many areas to win, even with RG III. That is why I think this might bite us in the ass. Yeah Manning, Brees, Favre, and Rodgers won SBs, but their respective teams were teeming with Pro Bowl talent, talent in which we do not have right now. If we had a raelly good O line and a solid Wr corp and a D that could at least hold a team below 21 points, this deal would have been fine, but the team is like swiss cheese with the gaping holes we have in true starting caliber players. It is a great way to keep Fedex packed though!

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[quote=GTripp0012;894414]I feel like you are a huge douche.[/quote]

Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago

Jared Veldheer

I said he never gave up a sack in college

Your smartass self said that you've 'seen' him give up a sack. Apparently you don't know what a sack is cause he never gave one up in college.

Fastforward to draft day raiders pick him Kiper says 'he never allowed a sack in college'

fastforward some more and Veldheer got a probowl alternate nod and recognition from other writers all of who bringing up that he never allowed a sack in college.

CultBrennan59: 1

Gtripp: 0

don't hate those that are wiser

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So Shanny now keeps his job for the remainder of his contract. Nice!

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[quote=GTripp0012;894437]Not only that, but Ryan Tannehill has to bust out of the league pretty quickly, or we would have been way better off with him at no. 6.[/quote]

Yes. If Tannehill turns out to be very good, we will have been not just raped, but gang raped.

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[quote=GMScud;894413]Everyone needs to realize it's 2 1sts and 2nd. We swapped 1st rounders, so when you say we gave up a 1st rounder, it was for a 1st rounder, so that's essentially actually a net gain, since that swap represents four slots at the top of the 1st round.

So 2 1sts and a 2nd. I don't love that it's the 2nd this year and not the 3rd, but hey,[B] if he ends up a top NFL QB, then who cares really[/B]? Gotta give to get.[/quote]

Good post Scud. In the end it's all about the bottom line (in your post.) If he turns out to be an elite qb, nobody will care about the price we paid to get him.

And on a side note, it definitely feels good to have the qb position taken care of, hopefully for the next decade minimum.

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I wonder if the Browns were offering their two #1s this year and their #1 next year.

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skins are still interested in Manning

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Still pursuing PM as well according to Schefter. LOL

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Fred Davis as tight end
Hankerson as reciever
possibly jackson as the other
good running game
finally a quarterback to provide leadership and ability
an underrated oline that needs depth because of injuries
a good pass rush with two possible premier pass rushers
only problem areas are safety, corner, we need another inside linebacker, and oline depth. if we draft well we could be a playoff contender for years to come.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894444]Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago

Jared Veldheer

I said he never gave up a sack in college

Your smartass self said that you've 'seen' him give up a sack. Apparently you don't know what a sack is cause he never gave one up in college.

Fastforward to draft day raiders pick him Kiper says 'he never allowed a sack in college'

fastforward some more and Veldheer got a probowl alternate nod and recognition from other writers all of who bringing up that he never allowed a sack in college.

CultBrennan59: 1

Gtripp: 0

don't hate those that are wiser[/quote]

Douche points in this thread alone: Cultbrennan 2
Everyone else: 0

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894444]Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago

Jared Veldheer

I said he never gave up a sack in college

Your smartass self said that you've 'seen' him give up a sack. Apparently you don't know what a sack is cause he never gave one up in college.

Fastforward to draft day raiders pick him Kiper says 'he never allowed a sack in college'

fastforward some more and Veldheer got a probowl alternate nod and recognition from other writers all of who bringing up that he never allowed a sack in college.

CultBrennan59: 1

Gtripp: 0

don't hate those that are wiser[/quote]

Dear lord.

With every post you are just further embarrassing yourself. I want to say things a lot harsher than this, but I'm practicing self restraint. You should too.

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[quote=Lotus;894421]I second that.[/quote]

Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB!

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894444]Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago

Jared Veldheer

I said he never gave up a sack in college

Your smartass self said that you've 'seen' him give up a sack. Apparently you don't know what a sack is cause he never gave one up in college.

Fastforward to draft day raiders pick him Kiper says 'he never allowed a sack in college'

fastforward some more and Veldheer got a probowl alternate nod and recognition from other writers all of who bringing up that he never allowed a sack in college.

CultBrennan59: 1

Gtripp: 0

don't hate those that are wiser[/quote]

You're the same person that was rooting against the Skins for the PAST two years around midseason. The Skins still had to give up a lot to get their QB and without tanking games like you wanted.

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I get sick of hearing how deficient this team is currently. Think about our games last year; If Grossman and Beck wasn't our QB we could've easily won probably 5 more games.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;894450]Still pursuing PM as well according to Schefter. LOL[/quote]

Yeah, no joke. We don't give up the bounty that we did to watch Griffin sit...even behind Manning.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;894439]Dude!! If that happens I would fly to OK, give you a big hug.[/quote]

LOL Just buy me dinner..

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RG III would have to be a lot better than Elway, Favre, Young, Marino, to to win with our team as it stands right now. We basically put all our eggs in one basket ala Shuler way back when. Thing is if RG III is a dud, we don't have a Frerotte or Trent Green to at least keep us somewhat competitve. Beck and Grossman suck!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894454]Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB![/quote]

I don't think they're upset you're right. I think they're upset that you keep trying to rub their nose in it. You were right, yes, everyone knows that. Now handle it like a man.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894454]Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB![/quote]

No, you are not right. The price was three firsts and a second, which you did not predict. You remain always a traitor, though.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894444]Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago

Jared Veldheer

I said he never gave up a sack in college

Your smartass self said that you've 'seen' him give up a sack. Apparently you don't know what a sack is cause he never gave one up in college.

Fastforward to draft day raiders pick him [B]Kiper[/B] says 'he never allowed a sack in college'

fastforward some more and Veldheer got a probowl alternate nod and recognition from other writers all of who bringing up that he never allowed a sack in college.

CultBrennan59: 1

Gtripp: 0

don't hate those that are wiser[/quote]

Im not saying your wrong or right but to use Kiper as your backing does not help your cause.

Is this the same Mel Kiper that said Jimmy Clausen was gonna go in the top 5?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894454]Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. [B]Real mature.[/B] You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB![/quote]

really?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894444]Oh I remember another told you so moment with me and you a few years ago[/quote]Well, you're on a torrid pace. At this rate, you'll be right again in 2014!

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One thing this deal does for us, getting it done now, is give us some leverage with courting potential free agents, especially a big time receiver.

Gotta figure out how to shore up the D and the O-line as well...not going to be easy.

But hey, chances are RG3 will be a good one for some time, but dang...can't get over the price. Hopefully this time next year I will be over it :)

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[quote=DynamiteRave;894460]I don't think they're upset you're right. I think they're upset that you keep trying to rub their nose in it. You were right, yes, everyone knows that. Now handle it like a man.[/quote]

True True True. I'll stop, its all the excitement of getting Mr. Griffin that has me acting like a kid again.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;894466]True True True. I'll stop, its all the excitement of getting Mr. Griffin that has me acting like a kid again.[/quote]

But you were not right. You did not predict 3 #1's and a #2. Smug without a cause are you.

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Wooooooooooo!!!!!!

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894454]Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB![/quote]

And gloating like a prick is real mature?

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I don't like what we gave up. But in reality no one truly knows how RGIII will be as an NFL QB or how the Rams picks will turn out for at least a season or two. As of this very second, the score is 0-0...stay tuned.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894454]Again, I'm right, you all and Ruhskins are wrong and upset that I'm right so the only way to respond is saying that. Real mature. You all will always hear this now when we have an heated argument of whose right and whose wrong.


but back to getting Mr. Griffin! We may have gotten our franchise QB![/quote]

:doh: I'm embarrassed we root for the same team. Are you going to be rooting for the Redskins to lose games this year too?

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[quote=Lotus;894468]But you were not right. You did not predict 3 #1's and a #2. Smug without a cause are you.[/quote]And Veldheer's sack against came in a D-II playoff game. So he was was only right on that one on a technicality he wasn't aware of.

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[quote=Gmanc711;894440]So is it offical that its 3 firsts and a 2nd? Or might be we be getting a later round pick(s) somewhere too?

I mean, I wanted RGIII, I'm happy we got him... think it's too much, no doubt...[/quote]

I have seen some people say 2nd. Other say the 2nd isn't finalized yet. I hope like shit it's not....

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[quote=GTripp0012;894464]Well, you're on a torrid pace. At this rate, you'll be right again in 2014![/quote]
That was actually specifically for you (the veldheer thing) cause that always stuck in the back of my mind and I was going to politely bring that up to you on a draft board but like I said I'm so amped right now I'm jumping around like a kid at christmas that we got griffin. Predicting the NFL is 50-50. I think we all can go on this board and point out the he's right/you're rights about so many subjects.

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Dude Cult U called it I'll say that but lets get back to RGIII

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[quote=Gtothearry;894456]I get sick of hearing how deficient this team is currently. Think about our games last year. If Grossman and Beck wasn't our QB we could've easily won probably 5 more games.[/quote]

You must have missed a lot of drops by our receivers, or the terrible O line play due to starters being injured, etc. Fred Davis, Fletch, Kerrigan and Helu were our heroes last season, that was pretty much it. Hightower was fine till he got banged up, then he broke his leg. Just before he broke his leg he was only getting 2 ypg his last two games. Also, I think our starting O line isn't really all that hot. Throw in the probability of losing Landry and Fletch and well you have a lot of holes, especially if they trade Orakpo to try and get some picks back. Now we have to pray we find another Cooley gem or two in the mid to late rounds this season to actually make the 2-7 rounds worthwhile.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;894417]Stupid. You just traded away 3 badly needed starters for one. What happened through getting more picks like NE and building steadily. This kid isn't a Manning or Elway or Luck type out of college. He is a very good QB no less, but played in a weakend Big 12 that happens to be defensively deficient most of the time. Snyder has done it again, got the fans snagged on the hot sexy pick, hoping it will pan out. I think BA and Shanny are feeling the heat so they went against the plan to save their asses. I like RG III a lot, but 3 first rounders for a still unproven commodity at the NFL level is not wise.[/quote]

I agree. Someone else in this draft or in free agency is going to turn out to be a better QB and the team who didn't give everything up to get that QB will be more successful. Flynn, Tannehill, Weeden, Cousins, etc. Do we even know Cleveland was a threat? If they got Flynn, we would have been in the driver's seat. This seems like a move of the previous regime. Competing against themselves.

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Glad we got RGIII! But will he be able to handle this Ricky Williams level pressure to perform, since so much was traded to get him?

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[quote=mooby;894472]:doh: I'm embarrassed we root for the same team. Are you going to be rooting for the Redskins to lose games this year too?[/quote]

Nah, we got our QB. I wanted us to lose for Luck. Hey, atleast with that we wouldn't be giving up 3 firsts! But I'm happy with Griffin. It is chemistry to. If we had tanked our season some glue guys like Fletch wouldnt have come back.

I'm just happy to have Griffin.