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[quote=Mattyk;930170][url=http://blog.redskins.com/2012/08/10/was-griffin-iii-robbed-of-perfection/]The Redskins Blog | Was Griffin III Robbed Of Perfection?[/url][/quote]

I hadn't seen the photo, I guess that might count a bad call too.

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[quote=SmootSmack;930086]Banks got a lot of targets because it's preseason and they're trying to determine his worth, if any, to the team. Expect Robinson and/or Austin to get the same next week[/quote]

I hope Robinson shows well, in both the passing and return game. Coach seemed to make a point to have someone pull double duty.

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Finally saw the game late last night.
Defense line played well. Even some of the backups looked strong. On the goal line stance the second unit Jarvis Jenkins and Co. looked stout.
#48 (R) Jordan Bernstein caught my eye on a couple plays run blitzing and filling the hole aggressively to help stop RB''s for no gain. They list him at 5'11" & 210. He looks bigger.
Same with Garcon, he really hit the weight room this off season. You can tell he is excited to play with Bob.

Lorenzo Alexander looks leaner and faster. We have a good and deep LB group.
Of course Kerrigan is the man. Starters looked great.
OLB 55 M. White got caught not keeping contain on the edge a few times. I like his size and physical play. He needs to play smarter and in control. Still waiting for Orakpo to step up to Kerrigan's level. Not knocking Orakpo, but he is a whisker away from reaching his potential.

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So I've been listening to the radio lately and all the comments about RG3. Been hearing about how the OL did pretty well and kept RG3 clean. Hearing how, although the Bills DL is stout, they didn't blitz the QB.

The last comment is what kinda has me thinking. Do the coaches talk prior to the games? Do they make agreements in regards to specifics? Like maybe there was a gentlemans agreement or perhaps M.Shanahan requested the Bills not blitz during the first game so RG3 would get just a vinilla defensive scheme in order to utilize some of the skills he has been taught?

I know its common for teams to be vinilla right now cause they don't want to give anything away for the season, I also know teams will expierment with plays, but I wonder if RG3 already knew in advance that perhaps an agreement was made that they wouldn't blitz, and they wouldn't try to hit him, just give him a chance to get his feet wet and get the feel of a real game. So instead of the Bills working on getting to RG3 and confusing him they simply work on man to man with the OL giving the Skins an opportunity to see which OL handle their blocking properly.

Then the next game they can step up RG3's pressure a little and add more plays.

or am I thinking too much outside the box?

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Vinilla eh? As far as a whole "gentleman's agreement" goes, I doubt it. The Bills weren't in the know when G.W. went with 10 guys the game after S.T. died, so I doubt they communicate too much. I think the Bills were just planning on going vanilla anyways, and obviously we didn't have a complaint with that.

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sometimes they do, i know gibbs did vs the ravens for one of their preseason games.

It was the first preseason game. I think that's all you have to keep in mind regarding the lack of blitzes. Most teams keep it simple to start and ramp things up as the preseason goes on.

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^No I agree with you guys and figured I'd get the ...."just enjoy the first game" comments.

I just remember a few yrs ago (or longer) when we would scrimmage other teams there were agreements between the clubs not to do certain stuff or maybe to do certain stuff cause the coaching staff wanted to see how their players would handle it. I was just wondering if perhaps the clubs still do these agreements with preseason games.

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it's more common for scrimmages like the pats/saints thing they did this year, or the couple times the skins did a combined practice with the ravens.

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Loved the RGIII hard-count on the conversion.

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RGIII looking good thus far is a very good sign, but doesn't necessarily mean things are going to be so rosy come week 1. He is still going to be light years better than Grossman though.

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very small sample, but griff looked good. o line and running game looked sloppy

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[quote=SmootSmack;930053]Griffin looked solid. Not sure he should have said "practice is harder than the games" That's borderline bulletin board material for opposing defenses. I like the confidence but slow your roll a bit

Definitely didn't like the Garcon flip. No need for that right now

When we drafted him, I thought Crawford would be one of those "damn, he sure is trying his best but he just can't keep up physically" kind of players. Seems I've been wrong. Though it does seem to characterize Brandon Banks somewhat

I think the weak link on the line yesterday was actually the guy with the most experience. He's valuable as a reserve, but I'm not sure the team fully benefits from having Will Montgomery starting right now

Kirk was average. Work in progress for sure

I had the chance to talk with Chris Baker a couple of times last year. You could tell he was pretty passionate about putting in the work and he wasn't going to give up on being an NFL player. So good for him that he's doing so well.[/quote]

I took it as meaning the repetitions and mental aspect were tougher.. plus he has to go against a D that knows the O. I found the same to be true in football. Kind of coincided with KS saying he wanted RG3 to go out and "have fun"

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[quote=CapitalDefense;930165]Disagree, if RG3 goes down our season is toast, no need to let Rex win us 2 games. Why not let the youngster play and learn on the job for possible trade bait down the road. Part of Cousins problem was he had to use Banks as a primary receiver, I think some of that was by design from the coaches to see if he can play WR. We shall see, 3 more games to play for Mr Cousins.[/quote]

Lose the locker room if you give up on the season that early. What would they playing for? Why would they want to stay here?

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[quote=mooby;930253]Vinilla eh? As far as a whole "gentleman's agreement" goes, I doubt it. The Bills weren't in the know when G.W. went with 10 guys the game after S.T. died, so I doubt they communicate too much. I think the Bills were just planning on going vanilla anyways, and obviously we didn't have a complaint with that.[/quote]

Happens plenty in the preseason.. jets not going wildcat this year... the Payton/Harbaugh fiasco last year etc

Not a lot of pass blitzing in the preseason

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[quote=That Guy;930269]it's more common for scrimmages like the pats/saints thing they did this year, or the couple times the skins did a combined practice with the ravens.[/quote]

I guess this is why I ask. I was just ahead of a story with any sort of agreements.....

[url=http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/rex_ryan_marvin_lewis_asked_me_not_to_run_the_wildcat/11434393]Lewis asked Jets not to run Wildcat? | Yardbarker.com[/url]

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Head coach Rex Ryan didn't run the Tebow-based Wildcat at all on Friday night against the Cincinnati Bengals and claims the reason was an unusual agreement he made with his opposing coach, Marvin Lewis, before the exhibition game.
Ryan explained that the [URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000048713/article/marvin-lewis-asked-rex-ryan-for-wildcatfree-game"][COLOR=#0000ff]Bengals coach called him[/COLOR][/URL] before the game and asked him not to.
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I'm sure the Skins wouldn't have done anything like this with a new Rookie QB.

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Finally got to watch the game from DVR. The defensive front 7 looked good. Very stout and stingy up front. The secondary wasn't as sharp, although personally I think it (already) looks better than last season.

Griffin looked poised and confident, even when he had the defense flying at him. In regular season he'll take off with the ball a few times and the defenses will start staying home to simply contain him...bet on it. Garcon already has won me over with his toughness. I went back and peeked at vids of Garcon and he has been pretty fearless over the middle, but he struggled underneath in space and I think that's why Waybe was the consistent go to guy. We already have a very good WR working underneath and finding open space in Moss, so I think Garcon and Moss will compliment each other well this season. Not really sure what to think of Morgan. He doesn't look very sure-handed though.

I think we should be very tough by the second half of the season, which is a good thing looking at our schedule.

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Did anyone notice how poorly Niles Paul played? His blocking was suspect and so far at least he has terrible hands. Kinda makes me question why we didn't grab Ballard or another quality TE during the off-season.

Also, Morris looks very promising. I wonder if he'll be an upgrade over Royster? Helu is still our fastest guy and his vision is improving, definitely a keeper. Hopefully, Hightower can be 100% this season though. Maybe Hightower, Helu and Morris? If Hightower can't go hard Royster gets to stay?

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[quote=The Goat;930527]Did anyone notice how poorly Niles Paul played? His blocking was suspect and so far at least he has terrible hands. Kinda makes me question why we didn't grab Ballard or another quality TE during the off-season.[/quote]

Yes, I too question why we didn't grab a TE who won't play this season

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If Paul has 2 more games like that one, he won't make the cut.

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[quote=SmootSmack;930536]Yes, I too question why we didn't grab a TE who won't play this season[/quote]

:laughing2

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paul was moved to TE because he wasn't going to make it as a WR, but his blocking was/is good.

they didn't move him there because he's a pro bowler that's just been playing the wrong position all his life.

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Paul is going to be fine.

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[quote=SmootSmack;930536]Yes, I too question why we didn't grab a TE who won't play this season[/quote]

Awesome.

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[quote=SmootSmack;930536]Yes, I too question why we didn't grab a TE who won't play this season[/quote]

I meant to laugh at him for that the other day. ....lol

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Maybe its me, but I don't see Niles Paul making a lot of plays this year anyway. I read something about RG3's targets in camp and its been 60-70% Garcon and Moss with a little Hankerson,Davis,Cooley RBs thrown in. If he keeps dropping passes, he may still make the team but get deactivated on game day. The problem right now is that with no Daryl Young, you have Cooley playing FB when you really need he and Davis playing TE.

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[quote=SmootSmack;930536]Yes, I too question why we didn't grab a TE who won't play this season[/quote]

I mean, really? Setting the poor attempt at humor aside, what's your beef with my question/concern? The Pats have far superior TEs than we do and still brought in Ballard...for insurance, for playmaking, for whatever. We have Davis who's a puff away from year suspension, Cooley who just doesn't appear to have the speed to compete at TE anymore and Paul who doesn't look even close to contributing.

...seriously what's with a rabid defense of everything FO related right now?

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[quote=The Goat;931002]I mean, really? Setting the poor attempt at humor aside, what's your beef with my question/concern? The Pats have far superior TEs than we do and still brought in Ballard...for insurance, for playmaking, for whatever. We have Davis who's a puff away from year suspension, Cooley who just doesn't appear to have the speed to compete at TE anymore and Paul who doesn't look even close to contributing.

...seriously what's with a rabid defense of everything FO related right now?[/quote]

:confused::Smoker::pffff::blah::drink:rolleyes:

Not sure what else I should add at this point

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Are there no more sarcastic Emoti....things available?

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Maybe something substantive? I thought you've said many times Cooley has been on the chopping block. It would seem TE is something we'd look at.

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[quote=The Goat;931002]I mean, really? Setting the poor attempt at humor aside, what's your beef with my question/concern? The Pats have far superior TEs than we do and still brought in Ballard...for insurance, for playmaking, for whatever. We have Davis who's a puff away from year suspension, Cooley who just doesn't appear to have the speed to compete at TE anymore and Paul who doesn't look even close to contributing.

...seriously what's with a rabid defense of everything FO related right now?[/quote]

Well, maybe I owe you a better response. First of all, it was pretty damn funny if I say so myself.

Secondly, why didn't we address the TE situation is a fair question. But why didn't we bring in Ballard makes little to no sense with your concerns. Niles Paul is raw, so how does bringing in a TE who can't even play this year help at all? Will that help Paul's development in any way? Why not just work on developing Paul, and why are we casting him aside after one preseason game? Fred Davis is one puff away from a year long suspension. So he's out for this year and so is Ballard, how does that help.

The only argument I can maybe see is Cooley, but again you're talking about bringing in someone who offers us nothing this year. I just don't see why anyone would knock the FO for that

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I forgot Ballard was done for the season...

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[quote=The Goat;931012]I forgot Ballard was done for the season...[/quote]

brain farts happen. I was a lil surprise NE picked him up...might have been Belichick being a dick than anything else

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So...you admit my joke was kind of funny now?

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[quote=Chico23231;931015]brain farts happen. I was a lil surprise NE picked him up...might have been [B]Belichick being a dick[/B] than anything else[/quote]

that's what he does best...and winning :)

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[quote=SmootSmack;931018]So...you admit my joke was kind of funny now?[/quote]

Really, really funny. A lot.