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[quote=12thMan;997505]Bruce Allen tearing in the NFL for their bogus salary cap bullsh*T.[/quote]

Yea he's saying we got unfairly screwed in a big way.
Give 'em hell Brucey!

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[quote=warriorzpath;997504]This guy does his damage on a consistent basis though. And I think he'll be glad to answer this question - "what have you done for me lately?"

Unless he drops off immediately, this is one hell of a steal for the Niners.[/quote]

How many times in the playoffs did Boldin motion to the slot, Flacco drops back and throws a sh*tty pass to the end zone; Boldin goes up over a linebacker or safety, completely punking them in the process, for the touchdown? They dont sniff the superbowl trophy this year without Boldin. He was a key on offense.

Playoffs this year: 22 receptions, 380 yards 4 TDs = beast

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[quote=warriorzpath;997493]Anquan Boldin for a sixth rounder -- what??? What is this - a family discount between the Harbaughs?[/quote]


[quote=Mechanix544;997496]ummmm, I would have given a fifth rounder for him. Cant believe he only fetched a 6 rounder. Thats weird.[/quote]


He was going to be cut because he wouldn't take a 2mil pay cut with the Ravens. He's not going to be reducing his contract either in San Fran so the Ravens basically got a 6th rounder for nothing.

[QUOTE=warriorzpath;997511]Adrian Peterson ‏@AdrianPeterson on Harvin trade:
[B][I]The best all around player I ever seen or you'll ever see! Goes to Seattle! I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach. Several times!!! [/I][/B]

At least we all know that Peterson will recover quickly from getting kicked in the stomach.[/QUOTE]

tell us how u really feel AD

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[quote=Chico23231;997514]How many times in the playoffs did Boldin motion to the slot, Flacco drops back and throws a sh*tty pass to the end zone; Boldin goes up over a linebacker or safety, completely punking them in the process, for the touchdown? They dont sniff the superbowl trophy this year without Boldin. He was a key on offense.

Playoffs this year: 22 receptions, 380 yards 4 TDs = beast[/quote]


In fact, the reason Joe looked so good was because his WRs were simplying beasting. That 4th and inches catch by Boldin was incredible. Boldin and the other Ravens WRs pretty much carried Flacco to that Super Bowl.

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[quote=Chico23231;997514]How many times in the playoffs did Boldin motion to the slot, Flacco drops back and throws a sh*tty pass to the end zone; Boldin goes up over a linebacker or safety, completely punking them in the process, for the touchdown? They dont sniff the superbowl trophy this year without Boldin. He was a key on offense.

Playoffs this year: 22 receptions, 380 yards 4 TDs = beast[/quote]

Ironic how he "Mossed" a few defenders in the playoffs and Superbowl, now that he's going to the same team as Moss.

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[quote=NC_Skins;997515]He was going to be cut because he wouldn't take a 2mil pay cut with the Ravens. He's not going to be reducing his contract either in San Fran so the Ravens basically got a 6th rounder for nothing.[/quote]

I just don't think the Ravens played their cards right. They didn't even really give themselves a chance to shop Boldin to other teams.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;997502]He won't really try hard IMO, he said just a couple weeks ago that if not Baltimore he would retire.[/quote]

Eh, things change quickly. He's going from the SB champs to a team that likely has a better shot than his old team to win it all next year. One thing I would never question about him is his heart or effort. He always brings it.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;997456]Healthy, focused Harvin is a playmaker and can attack a defense in a lot of different ways.

Injured, head-case Harvin is a pain in the patootie that sulks on the bench.

[B]Maybe the change of scenery will do him good.[/B] Carroll's "rah rah" approach will either resonate with Harvin or drive him off the deep end. I don't see a middle ground.[/quote]


Washington just legalized weed, right? Percy Harvin can benefit from medical marijuana, right? I feel like the NFLPA would back him if he failed a test, because of his legit seizure causing headaches, and the NFL would be a tough position of suspending someone for what he can/will blame for medical reasons. He also has the money to fight it, and more importantly big enough game checks to not not fight it.

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[quote=mlmpetert;997531]Washington just legalized weed, right? Percy Harvin can benefit from medical marijuana, right? I feel like the NFLPA would back him if he failed a test, because of his legit seizure causing headaches, and the NFL would be a tough position of suspending someone for what he can/will blame for medical reasons. He also has the money to fight it, and more importantly big enough game checks to not not fight it.[/quote]

The league is definitely not on board when it comes to marijuana.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000091645/article/marijuana-legalization-wont-change-nfl-drug-policy]Marijuana legalization won't change NFL drug policy - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;997519]In fact, the reason Joe looked so good was because his WRs were simplying beasting. That 4th and inches catch by Boldin was incredible. Boldin and the other Ravens WRs pretty much carried Flacco to that Super Bowl.[/quote]


Completely agree. Ive always felt Flaco is good QB, and until recently have felt he was underrated, but the dudes not as good as how much he got paid. I dont know if hes smart or dumb for not tkaing less in order to keep Boldin around.

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[quote=warriorzpath;997511]Adrian Peterson ‏@AdrianPeterson on Harvin trade:
[I]The best all around player I ever seen or you'll ever see! Goes to Seattle! I feel like I just got kicked in the stomach. Several times!!! [/I]

[B]At least we all know that Peterson will recover quickly from getting kicked in the stomach[/B].[/quote]


LOL :laughing2

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[quote=Mattyk;997534]The league is definitely not on board when it comes to marijuana.

[URL="http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000091645/article/marijuana-legalization-wont-change-nfl-drug-policy"]Marijuana legalization won't change NFL drug policy - NFL.com[/URL][/quote]


Of course not.... at least yet.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But allowing a player with a well documented medical history of severe and dangerous headaches, who by the course of his employment exposes himself to regular head injuries, to use weed for medical reasons in a state where marijuana is legal could be the first step in the inevitability of gradualness the NFL is likely looking for to keep this thing from turning into a very public legal battle as more and more states legalize the weed. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=mlmpetert;997542]Of course not.... at least yet.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But allowing a player with a well documented medical history of sever and dangerous headaches, who by the course of his employment exposes himself to regular head injuries, to use weed for medical reasons in a state where marijuana is legal could be the first step in the inevitability of gradualness the NFL is likely looking for to keep this thing from turning into a very public legal battle as more and more states legalize the weed. [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Yeah that's opening up a pretty big can of worms. Not sure the league wants to even touch that anytime soon.

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I honestly think San Fran got the better player (and value) today over Seattle.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997548]I honestly think San Fran got the better player (and value) today over Seattle.[/quote]


Might agree, Harvin & Tate kind of the same player IMO.

Jets sign garrard

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;997549]Might agree, Harvin & Tate kind of the same player IMO.[/quote]

I don't like it. To me guys like Harvin are great when you have a QB that can't throw to save his life and you need to rely on gadget plays to give your running game some room, but when you have a guy like Wilson that can throw in a more traditional, less gimicky offense, then those gadget players can become a distraction because the temptation to call a play just to get someone involved has the potential to disrupt the rhythm and organic development of an offense.

On top of that top flight kick returners frequently are at risk to fall off the face of the Earth.

Now with that said if Harvin can develop into a more traditional receiving option, get better at running routes, especially now that he has a QB that can get him the ball downfield, and combine that with his amazing athletic ability then he will be a steal but for now I'm very skeptical that this will work.

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Boldin is the toughest wideout in the game- He played with a wired jaw the week after it was broken. Oh and he refused to take painkillers during recovery.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997548]I honestly think San Fran got the better player (and value) today over Seattle.[/quote]

Certainly the better value. A 6th rounder for a solid, occasionally beast like, WR [I]OR[/I] a first rounder (and more) for a headcase, fragile playmaker.

Seriously, for a 6th rounder, anything they get from Boldin will be gravy. Given what I have seen as the price for Harvin, he [I]has[/I] to be a consistent playmaker to be worth what was given.

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Percy Harvin will be in a Seattle Seahawks uniform. The Seahawks are about to be a tiny bit better than what they already were.

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Speaking of ravens and 49ers

It looks like Ed Reed could be headed to San Fran according to PFT

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Talib remains a possibility for us, according to USA Today

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Holy hell, not only did Seattle give up their 1st rounder, but they also gave up 2 more picks. WTF??

[quote]The deal reportedly involves at least Seattle's 2013 first-round pick, No. 25 overall, Seattle's seventh-round pick in as well as a mid-round pick in 2014[/quote]

This has Roy Williams 2.0 written all over it.



A good read about the Harvin/Minnesota situation.

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/11/4091456/percy-harvin-trade-christian-ponder]Percy Harvin trade: Christian Ponder was the final straw - SBNation.com[/url]

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/53954/percy-harvin-got-to-be-more-right]Percy Harvin: Has to be more to story - NFC North Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=NC_Skins;997599]Holy hell, not only did Seattle give up their 1st rounder, but they also gave up 2 more picks. WTF??



This has Roy Williams 2.0 written all over it.



A good read about the Harvin/Minnesota situation.

[url=http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/11/4091456/percy-harvin-trade-christian-ponder]Percy Harvin trade: Christian Ponder was the final straw - SBNation.com[/url]

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/53954/percy-harvin-got-to-be-more-right]Percy Harvin: Has to be more to story - NFC North Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

The price for Harvin is crazy, given the fact that he has yet to have a 1,000 yard season and has attitude problems.

IMO Minnesota wins that trade.

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according to rotoworld Greg Toler resigns with Arizona

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bad move seattle. they would have been better off using those picks in april.

unless harvin gives them 1200 yards, 8TDs and plays in 16 games, it's wasteful.

boldin on the other hand is a great pickup. if a 6th round WR gives you 200 yards in his first year, you'd be happy, so, barring a fast and serious injury i think he gives them at least 600-800 and everyone in SF is pretty happy with the move.

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[quote=musicmaster45;997612]according to rotoworld Greg Toler resigns with Arizona[/quote]

yeah I just saw that...

Damn. We gotta go after Biggers now. Or all in for Talib.


EDIT

Kent somers saying he hasnt re-signed w/ AZ. Will be a FA on Tuesday

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Yea my bad rotoworld misreported

Updating a previous item, the Cardinals have not re-signed free agent CB Greg Toler.
Tim Ring of KTVK Phoenix withdrew his "report" after claiming he mixed up Toler's three-year deal with Rashad Johnson's. Toler remains in the mix for the Browns and Redskins. Per reliable Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic, there's every reason to believe Toler will hit the open market Tuesday at 4PM ET.

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[quote=That Guy;997614]bad move seattle. they would have been better off using those picks in april.

unless harvin gives them 1200 yards, 8TDs and plays in 16 games, it's wasteful.

[B]boldin on the other hand is a great pickup[/B]. if a 6th round WR gives you 200 yards in his first year, you'd be happy, so, barring a fast and serious injury i think he gives them at least 600-800 and everyone in SF is pretty happy with the move.[/quote]

I get to watch a lot of Ravens game and dude is a glue guy. When the chains need to be moved, he will make the difficult catch.

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The Seahawks probably did not see anyone of value in this year's draft in the first round. They have been trying to get a big play receiver the past couple of years and have missed out, second round and possibly a third round pick is what I would have given up but if you are going to trade a 1st round draft pick this is the year to do it. Honestly I would take Harvin over every receiver the Redskins currently have on their roster.

Boldin was a great pickup for the 49ers. Crabtree, Davis, Boldin, their OLine, and their running backs. I do not see anyone stopping that offense. Especially with Kapernick looking more and more like the real deal. Of course their defense took a huge step back mainly due to Justin Smith being injured but the man is turning 34 and when you are that old injuries have a way of lingering more often that not. But the NFC West should still run through them but I think it will be a lot closer than it was last year. Seahawks have an excellent chance of winning that division with the Rams creeping up. Cardinals will always miss Kurt Warner.

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[quote=musicmaster45;997612]according to rotoworld Greg Toler resigns with Arizona[/quote]


Whoops. As musicmaster45 just shared...we can still get him.

Toler has not re-signed...
[quote]CORRECTION: Rashad Johnson has signed a 3-year deal with Cardinals. Wires crossed with source. My apologies everyone.[/quote]
[URL]https://twitter.com/timring3TV/status/311317528871841793[/URL]



Wonder if we can afford to sign Toler and Talib after cutting Hall?

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F Seattle getting Harvin. I hate Seattle.

Maybe he'll continue to get hurt and burn them like Matt Flynn.

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besides a young QB (lacking experience, not talent), SF looks to have all the pieces.

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[quote=donofriose;997655]The Seahawks probably did not see anyone of value in this year's draft in the first round. They have been trying to get a big play receiver the past couple of years and have missed out, second round and possibly a third round pick is what I would have given up but if you are going to trade a 1st round draft pick this is the year to do it. Honestly I would take Harvin over every receiver the Redskins currently have on their roster.

Boldin was a great pickup for the 49ers. Crabtree, Davis, Boldin, their OLine, and their running backs. I do not see anyone stopping that offense. Especially with Kapernick looking more and more like the real deal. Of course their defense took a huge step back mainly due to Justin Smith being injured but the man is turning 34 and when you are that old injuries have a way of lingering more often that not. But the NFC West should still run through them but I think it will be a lot closer than it was last year. Seahawks have an excellent chance of winning that division with the Rams creeping up. Cardinals will always miss Kurt Warner.[/quote]

Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997710]Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

[B]Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first[/B].[/quote]

Or PFT

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/speculation-mounts-that-ed-reed-will-be-a-49er/]Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;997713]Or PFT

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/speculation-mounts-that-ed-reed-will-be-a-49er/"]Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]


LOL!

Or ESPN

OR CNN

LOL!

That made me laugh. CB59 you are such a insider; SS don't ever come back.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997710]Its still a lot to give up for a player. Just because this ''isn't a good year for first rounders'' doesn't mean there are no players you could have gotten at other positions in the first or stockpile picks. Or perhaps they could have made another reach and gotten a 2nd round guy in the first again (Bruce Irvin example).

[B]Rich Eisen pointed out that the last 3 WR trades involving first rounders have been awful (Peerless Price, Roy Williams, Deion Branch). [/B]Add to that that Percy Harvin has yet to play a full season in the NFL, suffers from migraines, wants Calvin Johnson money, and couldn't even get along with Leslie Frazier, and IMO you have a trade that has more bust than boom.

Also Ed Reed to San Fran; you heard it here first.[/quote]

True, but many more examples of 1st or 2nd round WR busts. Your blind if you cant see how this makes perfect sense for Seattle. That offense needs a play maker to compliment Wilson. Why not surround him with one? Not too many potential playmakers in the league like Harvin. PR/KR, WR and RB...he does it all. Is there a risk? OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this. Was there a risk with RG3, OF COURSE, there always is with talent like this.

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[quote=Mattyk;997713]Or PFT

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/12/speculation-mounts-that-ed-reed-will-be-a-49er/]Speculation mounts that Ed Reed will be a 49er | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation.

Heres another Victor Cruz to Minnesota

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[quote=CultBrennan59;997719]I'm saying it will happen not could happen. Definitive statement to speculation[/quote]

Ok, it wasn't clear, seemed that you were calling that shot on your own.