[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1050203]Well, about the only legal requirement that would probably still pass Constitutional muster is that both parties must be consenting adults. Animals and minors cannot legally give consent. So no dogs, cats, horses or children (Although, I think some states allow parents to give consent for older teens - not sure).[/QUOTE]

What about parakeets?

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[quote=firstdown;1050335]Well if you take the S out of horse you get hore.[/quote]


Ok I'll do it , what is a hore ?

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[quote=RedskinRat;1050090]How long until someone marries a horse?

J/K!

Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk[/quote]Well, folks used to joke that after banning cigarettes, liberals would go after soft drinks next. ;)

[QUOTE=HailGreen28;1050439]Well, folks used to joke that after banningqq a. Et cigarettes, liberals would go after soft drinks next. ;)[/QUOTE]

Well that A-hole bloomberg in NY banned large softdrinks.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2014/story/_/id/10358250/2014-winter-olympics-mayor-anatoly-pakhomov-says-there-no-gay-people-sochi]2014 Winter Olympics -- Mayor Anatoly Pakhomov says there are no gay people in Sochi - ESPN[/url]

sigh

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[quote=Chico23231;1057536][url=http://espn.go.com/olympics/winter/2014/story/_/id/10358250/2014-winter-olympics-mayor-anatoly-pakhomov-says-there-no-gay-people-sochi]2014 Winter Olympics -- Mayor Anatoly Pakhomov says there are no gay people in Sochi - ESPN[/url]

sigh[/quote]

He probably has gays in his own political organization, never the less the town. Dude is a moron to say the least.





Speaking of "bans", when did Firstdown get the official "banned" hammer? Did that moron post something with porn again?

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[url=http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/religious-leaders-to-ag-reconsider-or-face-impeachment/article_faf3ba8a-890d-11e3-9a3c-0017a43b2370.html]Religious leaders to AG: reconsider or face impeachment - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Virginia News[/url]

Welcome to Virginia

*sigh*

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[quote=Chico23231;1057850][url=http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/religious-leaders-to-ag-reconsider-or-face-impeachment/article_faf3ba8a-890d-11e3-9a3c-0017a43b2370.html]Religious leaders to AG: reconsider or face impeachment - Richmond Times-Dispatch: Virginia News[/url]

Welcome to Virginia

*sigh*[/quote]

From the article:

[quote]Rabbi Carlos A. Parker of Barhamsville said that tragedies like the terror attacks from Sept. 11, 2001, and the 2008 financial crisis are a message from God about repentance.

“We have parted from God’s ways and from God’s word,” Parker said. “The message from 9/11 was ... to repent, and we did not do that,” he said.[/quote]

Apparently, his synagogue is just down the street from the Westboro Baptists Church.

Stupid sh** like this reallllyyy makes arguing with Rat a drag.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1057855]Apparently, his synagogue is just down the street from the Westboro Baptists Church.

Stupid sh** like this reallllyyy makes arguing with Rat a drag.[/quote]

:laughing-


Thanks for the laugh.


I don't take quite the stance that RR does. To make the claim their isn't a god, means the burden of proof is now on you to back up the claim.

[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1057869]

I don't take quite the stance that RR does. To make the claim their isn't a god, means the burden of proof is now on you to back up the claim.[/QUOTE]

Bertrand Russell's Teapot! Not a laughing matter, sir! Good day!


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The Teapot is inapplicable to NC's assertion that "To make the claim their isn't a god, means the burden of proof is now on you to back up the claim". It [I]is [/I]applicable to the assertion "You can't prove I am wrong about the existence of God so you should believe God exists."

I don't think you have ever claimed you could prove God's non-existence. Rather, your "assertion" has always been "through the use of the scientific method, prove the existence of deity and I will believe in that proven deity."

You're just particularly obnoxious about doing so and are prone to ignoring your own logical fallacies in arguing the point.

You could have said 'You're just particularly obnoxious' and you'd have been correct. Everyone should have a hobby.

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While I believe homosexuality is biological and not a choice, I have a problem with gay marriage. Give it equal rights but call it a "civil union" or something else, anything but marriage. Leave marriage between a man and wife the way it always has been.

[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1057982]While I believe homosexuality is biological and not a choice, I have a problem with gay marriage. Give it equal rights but call it a "civil union" or something else, anything but marriage. Leave marriage between a man and wife the way it always has been.[/QUOTE]

I agree. I would like to see all people who want to commit publicly to one other person move away from marriage and adopt civil unions so that marriage becomes shorthand for 'religious bigot'.

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[quote=RedskinRat;1057983]I agree. I would like to see all people who want to commit publicly to one other person move away from marriage and adopt civil unions so that marriage becomes shorthand for 'religious bigot'.

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See, you could have just said "I agree."

[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1057984]See, you could have just said "I agree."[/QUOTE]

Then I wouldn't have conveyed the important message and reason why.

You're no fun these days, is it the cold? I can send you a blanket I'm not using?

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[url=http://wtvr.com/2014/03/13/bible-belt-states-watch-the-most-gay-porn-stats-show/]Bible Belt states watch the most porn, stats show | WTVR.com[/url]

hilarious

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[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/RH6dcVJ.jpg[/IMG]

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[url=http://www.wtop.com/120/3680869/Delay-denied-in-ruling-on-Va-gay-marriage-ban]Delay denied in ruling on Va. gay marriage ban - WTOP.com[/url]

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Pretty good article
[url=http://theweek.com/article/index/266196/how-american-christians-can-stop-being-bullies-and-start-winning-converts]How American Christians can stop being bullies and start winning converts - The Week[/url]
[QUOTE]For Christians, this history of histrionics has been bad for business. In a 2010 Barna Research survey, for example, [B]one in five Americans and 35 percent of those associated with non-Christian faiths said that Christians' most negative contribution to society was "violence or hatred incited in the name of Jesus Christ[/B]." Twenty-five percent of respondents said they couldn't even think of one positive contribution made by Christians.[/QUOTE]

I'm personally [URL="https://www.google.com/search?q=agnostic&oq=agnostic&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8"]agnostic[/URL] and not one to believe in miracles and the like but I do believe that there's a lot of value in the teachings of Jesus Christ. And though I have seen more then my fair share of harm done by religious institutions I've also seen it help people that were basically at rock bottom.

Where I draw the line is when a person or group of people start trying to impose their dogma on others when it has nothing to do with them. Gay marriage does nothing to directly affect the marriage of any heterosexual couple. To suggest that the exact same arrangement, ie two consenting adults in love or in need of a green card, will somehow lead to bestiality and child marriages is absurd.

It sickens me to see many Christian sects of which the main principles are suppose to be tolerance and forgiveness use their influence to spread fear, hate, and stubbornness among not just gays but anyone they perceive as a threat.

Still I can't wait to fight the next generation on weather or not the use of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_amplification"]AI implants[/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_therapy#Human_genetic_engineering"]gene therapy[/URL] should be legal.

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25 percent of respondents aren't aware of all the charity done in the name of Christianity?

hrm... that tells me more about the respondents than the Christians :)

the gay marriage debate is full of disingenuous arguments (from both sides, as usual)... so many I pretty much stay out of the conversation these days.

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It's a pretty good day for the LGBT community eh?

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[quote=Mattyk;1114634]It's a pretty good day for the LGBT community eh?[/quote]

yeah, bout time.

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Get shit on you Bible thumpers!! :headbanger::woot:

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103 page opinion or something like that, dissents included.

I havent read the majority opinion yet but i think the headlines are misleading.

to my understanding (havent read opinion yet), this case law holds that all states must recognize out-of-state same sex marriages.

this case does not mean a same sex couple can get married in Texas tomorrow.

This case means Texas has to recognize and treat equal a same sex couple who got married, say, new hampshire or NY or DC etc .....

I imagine a same sex couple can apply for a license in Texas, get denied then bring suit which may force the SCOTUS to overturn any state law prohibitnig the marriage.

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[url]http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/14pdf/14-556_3204.pdf[/url]

^^^ SCOTUS opinion

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Conservatives in general are having a bad time lately. The confederate flag... ACA... gay marriage... LOL

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[quote=Mattyk;1114643]Conservatives in general are having a bad time lately. The confederate flag... ACA... gay marriage... LOL[/quote]

When it comes down to it, these dividing social issues are generally silly. We lose focus arguing things that are important to a smaller segment of the population. No cops shouldn't be killing minorities, no the confederate flag shouldn't be flag over a state capital, of course people should be able to marry who ever in a free society...this shit is really easy.

Looking outside our borders, our world is the most unstable since world war 2...but the typical dipshit walking down the street is completely fine with it.

Fuck the confederate flag we open genicide in the Middle East, a re emerging Russia, a stagnate world economy, threat of nuclear weapons in Iran, etc.

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[quote=Mattyk;1114634]It's a pretty good day for the LGBT community eh?[/quote]

LOL , yes it has and it has been a bad week for the Tea Party !!!:laughing2

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[QUOTE=NC_Skins;1114636]Get shit on you Bible thumpers!! :headbanger::woot:[/QUOTE]


I second this emotion!

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So does this mean that states with gun bans have to respect concealed carry and even open carry of firearms of people from states that allow it? :cool:

BTW, as a Christian I'm OK-ish with the federal government saying same sex and normal marriage are the same. Not crazy about it, but we should be a land of tolerance. Just hope this doesn't get extrapolated into churches being persecuted for not catering to gay relationships their faith in the bible proscribes against. If some congregations are OK with it... their choice, just don't mandate everyone's religious beliefs at church. Agreed that a christian in a public sector job has to toe the federal gov line at that job, because that's the job they chose to take.

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Please get this asshat out of office

[url=http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/02/436893283/heres-what-we-know-about-the-ky-clerk-refusing-gay-marriage-licenses]Here's What We Know About The Kentucky Clerk Refusing Marriage Licenses : The Two-Way : NPR[/url]

Fucking hypocrite hiding behind her religion when it's convenient for her

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The bible is such a book of interpretation. Never understood how anyone could draw such conclusive facts from it. Yeah Matty I agree. Hope she gets jail time and comes out a lesbian.

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well, if she's interpreted something that's not actually spelled out in the bible and ignored the very specific rules on divorce... that means she's taking the legal view in one case and a vague quasi religious view in another.

convenient.

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Whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative, but the bible is....quite specific on the topic....

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1118855]Whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative, but the bible is....quite specific on the topic....[/QUOTE]


[url]http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/886102[/url]

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[QUOTE=Hog1;1118855]Whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative, but the bible is....quite specific on the topic....[/QUOTE]


So is the law she swore to uphold.

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^ true dat

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[quote=Hog1;1118855]Whether you agree with it or not is your prerogative, but the bible is....quite specific on the topic....[/quote]

its much more specific on eating shellfish, yet no one seems to give two sh#$ts about that.

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A go fund me page will be started for Kim Davis and she will receive thousands of dollars and be brought up on stage by a Bobby Jindal or someone like that as a mesiah against the persecution of the christian faith by the lefties and MSM.

I drink beer, eat bacon and watch sports so I can live a peaceful happy uncomplicated life and not deal with public opinions as much as i can.

God bless america, there is room for all of us, no matter how you choose to live your one life on this rotating piece of space rock.

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She's straight garbage. If you aren't going to do your job, fine. Step down.