[QUOTE=CASKINS;1034459]in 1999 We beat the Giants 51-21

Bad Brad Johnson[/QUOTE]

Yeah i remember that but i think the original post referenced 99 as the last time. Rave nailed it with the 52 we put up on san fran. Amazingly i dont remember the game.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1034463]Things are not bad enough to fire anyone (yet). Players and coaches need to figure things out and play more consistent period.[/quote]

2-4 is not bad enough going to Denver? Skins could easily be 0-6 if Terrell Pryor played for OAK, today they barely escaped. The defense and ST are under performing, 4 years of the same type of play and no improvement is unacceptable. I don't about you, but I don't like mediocrity.

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[quote=jamf;1034464]First thing they need to do is add some speed at KR. Paul and Morgan struggle to get the ball past the 20 yard line.

We need to figure out if Chris Thompson can help us or not. he looked good in preseason but we gave up on him, not sure what Morgan brings to the table that Thompson doesn't. It's sad to think that we can't get a return past the 20.[/quote]

I think we already have our answer on Thompson. Inactive again today.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1034471]2-4 is not bad enough going to Denver? Skins could easily be 0-6 if Terrell Pryor played for OAK, today they barely escaped. The defense and ST are under performing, 4 years of the same type of play and no improvement is unacceptable. I don't about you, but I don't like mediocrity.[/quote]

But the problem, as Matty ably indicated, is that the market is bare. If we fire Burns - whom I don't like - who is out there to replace him and be better?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1034466]You think this defense has top talent? I don't.[/quote]

I didn't say top talent, need MLB, CB and S help. D should be better than last year.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1034471]2-4 is not bad enough going to Denver? Skins could easily be 0-6 if Terrell Pryor played for OAK, today they barely escaped. The defense and ST are under performing, 4 years of the same type of play and no improvement is unacceptable. I don't about you, but [B]I don't like mediocrity[/B].[/quote]

Technically, 2-4 is not good enough to be mediocre. But we're getting there.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1034471]2-4 is not bad enough going to Denver? Skins could easily be 0-6 if Terrell Pryor played for OAK, today they barely escaped. The defense and ST are under performing, 4 years of the same type of play and no improvement is unacceptable. I don't about you, but I don't like mediocrity.[/quote]

But they are not 0-6 and could've/would've/should've doesn't work in real life. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem, but just blindly firing everyone is not going to solve everything.

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[quote=jamf;1034464]First thing they need to do is add some speed at KR. Paul and Morgan struggle to get the ball past the 20 yard line.

We need to figure out if Chris Thompson can help us or not. he looked good in preseason but we gave up on him, [B]not sure what Morgan brings to the table that Thompson doesn't. [/B] It's sad to think that we can't get a return past the 20.[/quote]

Morgan brings ball security that Thompson lacks.

Otherwise they are similar:
Thompson 20.0 per kick return, 5.1 per punt return
Morgan 21.0 per kick return, 4.3 per punt return

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[quote=Ruhskins;1034477]But they are not 0-6 and could've/would've/should've doesn't work in real life. I'm not saying that there isn't a problem, but just blindly firing everyone is not going to solve everything.[/quote]

I say give Raheem a chance as a DC at least.

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Hester is one of the top return men of all time. I can't get too upset over him making a play. Teams are still a concern but at least it didn't cost us the game. Just gotta hope they can improve.

On another note it was great to see another defensive score. Rak finally gets the monkey off his back with his first pick and he did it in style with the pick 6.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1034479]I say give Raheem a chance as a DC at least.[/quote]

I think teams "try sh*t out" when they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs. That's not the case right now.

It just feels good to beat someone again. Obviously we don't seem to be a playoff contender but I would like to get 8 wins somehow

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[quote=Green Monk Machine;1034396]Couldn't we have gotten Tebow for cheaper than Robert? Why are we so committed to the run game and not to being consistent passing? Sure Reed caught a ton and Helu/alf got going but we need to stop scripting Rob runs and spread the ball.[/quote]

I couldn't agree more. why spend a bunch of 1st rounders to get a running back, that may last 4yrs. The more hits you take, the less you play in this league. If they could actually coach players to play in todays NFL, not college thaty would be good coaches but...
If you need a Herculean effort from the QB every game you have a serious problem as a coach, "GET THE MAN SOME HELP". They couldn't run until Bob 3 sticks started running, they couldn't throw until Bob 3 Sticks started running, they couldn't score in the red zone until Bob 3 sticks started running, is anyone getting a picture here? The Shannys have to go!

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Keep running the ball Kyle. That's the key for this team, running the football.

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[quote=punch it in;1034470]Yeah i remember that but i think the original post referenced 99 as the last time. Rave nailed it with the 52 we put up on san fran. Amazingly i dont remember the game.[/quote]

I do! WE beat SF in SF to clinch the NFC EAST TITLE....I ran around the room like an idiot in my Stephen Davis Jersey

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1034483]It just feels good to beat someone again. Obviously we don't seem to be a playoff contender but I would like to get 8 wins somehow[/quote]

We still have four division games in a mediocre NFC East, who knows what will happen. Regardless of what happens this year, having actual cap space next year will help the team get better.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1034483]It just feels good to beat someone again. Obviously [B]we don't seem to be a playoff contender [/B]but I would like to get 8 wins somehow[/quote]

We will play in the NFC championship game.

[QUOTE=Lotus;1034488]We will play in the NFC championship game.[/QUOTE]

If u r right I'll buy u a steak

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[quote=whistler;1034484]I couldn't agree more. why spend a bunch of 1st rounders to get a running back, that may last 4yrs. The more hits you take, the less you play in this league. If they could actually coach players to play in todays NFL, not college thaty would be good coaches but...
[B]If you need a Herculean effort from the QB every game you have a serious problem as a coach[/B], "GET THE MAN SOME HELP". They couldn't run until Bob 3 sticks started running, they couldn't throw until Bob 3 Sticks started running, they couldn't score in the red zone until Bob 3 sticks started running, is anyone getting a picture here? The Shannys have to go![/quote]

RG3 did a lot, but he was helped by a good outing by Morris (95 yds), Helu (3 TDs), and Reed (143 yds/TD). Not to mention a TD by the defense. We may not have a lot of talent, but RG3 is not doing it all by himself.

Saying that we should've gotten Tebow over RG3 is idiotic.

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[quote=Mattyk;1034473]I think we already have our answer on Thompson. Inactive again today.[/quote]

He's a rookie. Gotta give the kid some time. But he certainly did not look like a natural returner.

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[quote=Lotus;1034488]We will play in the NFC championship game.[/quote]

It seems we are both drinking the same Kool Aide.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1034489]If u r right I'll buy u a steak[/quote]

I've said it before and I am not kidding. Get that steer ready. :)

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[quote=Lotus;1034494]I've said it before [B]and I am not kidding[/B]. Get that steer ready. :)[/quote]
You have always been my favorite......

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[quote=Ruhskins;1034491]RG3 did a lot, but he was helped by a good outing by Morris (95 yds), Helu (3 TDs), and Reed (143 yds/TD). Not to mention a TD by the defense. We may not have a lot of talent, but RG3 is not doing it all by himself.

Saying that we should've gotten Tebow over RG3 is idiotic.[/quote]

I didn't say that Tebow is or ever was a better player, I am saying that if you are going to run your QB to this degree in the NFL he won't be your QB for long, if he doesn't have another serious injury, he will loose the speed to get around the corner. The NFL teams that have major success are the teams that can pass without play action (or the threat of the QB taking off) when they are in the hurry up. Don't get me started on the Shannys desire to control the game with their use of the hurry up and the lack there of within the last 5 minutes of the halves.

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[quote=whistler;1034497]I didn't say that Tebow is or ever was a better player, I am saying that if you are going to run your QB to this degree in the NFL he won't be your QB for long, if he doesn't have another serious injury, he will loose the speed to get around the corner. [B]The NFL teams that have major success are the teams that can pass without play action (or the threat of the QB taking off) when they are in the hurry up.[/B] Don't get me started on the Shannys desire to control the game with their use of the hurry up and the lack there of within the last 5 minutes of the halves.[/quote]

What?

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[quote=Hog1;1034495]You have always been my favorite......[/quote]

So you have me in the same category as Redskin Rat. :)

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[quote=skinsfan69;1034492]He's a rookie. Gotta give the kid some time. But he certainly did not look like a natural returner.[/quote]

He's not the answer this year at least is what I meant to say. He does need some time.

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1034489]If u r right I'll buy u a steak[/QUOTE]

Last time you made a bet like this we went on a huge run and made the playoffs! Lol

[QUOTE=punch it in;1034505]Last time you made a bet like this we went on a huge run and made the playoffs! Lol[/QUOTE]

True !! Lol

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/57738/rg-iii-returns-to-form-in-victory]RG III returns to form in victory - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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The blocking hasn't been there on returns...it's been less about ability than just plain nothing getting blocked well. Might as well focus on ball security if the aren't going be any good returns.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1034510][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/57738/rg-iii-returns-to-form-in-victory]RG III returns to form in victory - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/QUOTE]

20 carries for 160 yards. Wow.
Heeeeeee's baack.

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[B] ‏[SIZE="4"]@czabe

Brandon Merriweather: X button = "Helmet to Helmet Hit" Y button = "Miss Tackle". The other buttons don't do anything.[/SIZE][/B]


:laughing2



[quote=punch it in;1034520]20 carries for 160 yards. Wow.
Heeeeeee's baack.[/quote]


He had 11 carries for 84 yards.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1034522][B] ‏[SIZE="4"]@czabe

Brandon Merriweather: X button = "Helmet to Helmet Hit" Y button = "Miss Tackle". The other buttons don't do anything.[/SIZE][/B]


:laughing2






He had 11 carries for 84 yards.[/quote]

I think he was referring to the last two weeks.

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A couple thoughts about the game:

- Loved the balance of carries with Morris and Helu. Got to keep that going.

- Easily RG3's best game. He's getting his swagger back.

- I wasn't expecting much out of Reed coming into this year but man, kid is legit.

- Much needed win, no shame in winning a shoot-out, even if Cutler was out. The Bears are a solid team.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/57746/redskins-45-bears-41-ten-observations]Redskins 45, Bears 41: Ten Observations - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1034458]No need for anyone to hate on RG3 today. He made his share of mistakes but he sure made a ton of plays today. I just wish they would stop running him so much.[/QUOTE]

I completely disagree with the argument that they need to stop running him. It's pretty obvious he is not a pocket passer and will need ALOT of work to turn into one. He sees the field the best when he is in motion moving out of the pocket. His prettiest throws are always while moving. Whenever he plants his feet, quite honestly his throws looks like crap. I hope eventually he can evolve into some form of a pocket passer, but not now. There's a reason we gave up so much to get him, it wasn't cause of his ability to sit back and go through progressions.

I think if anything was learned from this game it's that Griff needs to run/bootleg more. Just need to be smart about it.

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I thought RG3s runs looked like his old self as well. He had this "glide" of speed last year that I didn't see until this game. Easier said that done, but if we get into a shootout with the Broncos, all it takes is one big play to go our way.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1034543]I thought RG3s runs looked like his old self as well. He had this "glide" of speed last year that I didn't see until this game. Easier said that done, but if we get into a shootout with the [B]Broncos[/B], all it takes is one big play to go our way.[/quote]

Did you have to mention the Broncos and bring me down from the Bears win?

Seriously, beating the Broncos in Denver would be just the thing to put the Skins back in the race for the NFC East title.

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crazy where all the haters go after a win