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Pats handed yet another game by the refs.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1046868]Pats handed yet another game by the refs.[/quote]

I said it in my previous post, they also had two possibly taken away. So they are about even in the ref department.

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Y do people hate NE so much? Is it because they win all.the time and we don't?? I don't get it and Wilson had a typical wilson game , 200 yards haha people saying he's the MVP r stupid

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1046996]Y do people hate NE so much? Is it because they win all.the time and we don't?? I don't get it and Wilson had a typical wilson game , 200 yards haha people saying he's the MVP r stupid[/quote]

Did you see the nasty D they faced? Wilson is a very smart QB and makes things happen, it's not all about statistics and numbers.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1047000]Did you see the nasty D they faced? Wilson is a very smart QB and makes things happen, it's not all about statistics and numbers.[/QUOTE]

His career is against SF?

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1046996]Y do people hate NE so much? Is it because they win all.the time and we don't?? I don't get it and Wilson had a typical wilson game , 200 yards haha people saying he's the MVP r stupid[/quote]

He had a similar performance to Drew Brees when they played the 49ers.

He wasn't the MVP, wasn't even close but no one is close to Peyton Manning right now.

He is definitely better than RG3 and Luck at this point of their careers. I feel like in 10 years we are going to be hearing stories about all the teams that passed on Wilson, similar to the Brady story.

It is because New England wins. They are pretty arrogant too, even though not exceedingly arrogant like some may try to paint them to be, but in the end it is because they have been the best franchise the last 15 years.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047004]His career is against SF?[/quote]

You are not 11-2 without a smart QB and average WR's. He almost made that 1st down pass to Tate which barely hit the ground, the guy is always thinking and is aware of where his receivers are at all times.

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1047007]You are not 11-2 without a smart QB and average WR's. He almost made that 1st down pass to Tate which barely hit the ground, the guy is always thinking and is aware of where his receivers are at all times.[/QUOTE]

I don't hate Wilson I actually like him but he's not a top 5 QB and to say he's already better than luck and Griffin is premature , when u never have to worry about carrying your team every week it's a lot easier to look great.

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[quote=donofriose;1046865]It always seems to be the Patriots that have calls decide games, NO, NYJ, CAR, and now Cleveland. I'm sure there were others as well but those were the late calls that I can remember.[/quote]

Yet you don't see Cleveland's coach b*tching as much as Belichick b*tched when he lost to the Panther. Pats should be 8-5, lucky f*cks.

Guys NE has won 3 SBs and been to 5 under Brady , give it a rest . All they do is win refs blah blah they got robbed against Car and NYJ also so it's even

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047008]I don't hate Wilson I actually like him but he's not a top 5 QB and to say he's already better than luck and Griffin is premature , when u never have to worry about carrying your team every week it's a lot easier to look great.[/quote]

So right now who would you say is the best out of the three? For me it is Wilson because of his statistics, watching him play, and his performance when his team needs a play.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047012]Guys NE has won 3 SBs and been to 5 under Brady , give it a rest . All they do is win refs blah blah they got robbed against Car and NYJ also so it's even[/quote]

I'm entitled to my opinion as you are. Despite being one of the best coaches in this era, Belichick is a classless whining prick. Maybe I'm spoiled on how a winning coach should carry themselves being a fan of Joe Gibbs (during his first tenure).

Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047015]Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though[/quote]

I think any decent QB can win Seattle's defense, running game, and home field advantage. But I do agree that Luck is prob the best out of that trio.

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1047020]I think any decent QB can win Seattle's defense, running game, and home field advantage. But I do agree that Luck is prob the best out of that trio.[/QUOTE]

I just think Griffin would look just as good in Seattle

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047015]Andrew luck, he has no D and no WRs and puts up good numbers and wins. He carries that team , Wilson is a good QB but their D wins their games and everyone knows that. I will say he's better than Griffin right now though[/quote]

I would have understood Luck until his last 5 performances. I would have still disagreed but it was debatable. Now for the past month he has looked pretty bad. Even against Cincy he didn't look good and only piled on the stats toward the end, similar to RG3 against Philly. Luck has played poorly and gotten blown out three times in 5 games, while Wilson has looked exceptional. Hell Luck is just lucky his team played Tennessee twice, and one of those Tennessee games he threw three picks and still won. I can make the case the Colts are helping carry Luck to wins. Wilson has Less picks, more TD passes, Luck averages only 10 more yards a game passing, and Wilson has the wins going for him as well. Not sure what else he needs to do. But it is an opinion.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047026]I just think Griffin would look just as good in Seattle[/quote]

Not this year. He has overthrown so many passes this year, maybe next year.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047027]I would have understood Luck until his last 5 performances. I would have still disagreed but it was debatable. Now for the past month he has looked pretty bad. Even against Cincy he didn't look good and only piled on the stats toward the end, similar to RG3 against Philly. Luck has played poorly and gotten blown out three times in 5 games, while Wilson has looked exceptional. Hell Luck is just lucky his team played Tennessee twice, and one of those Tennessee games he threw three picks and still won. I can make the case the Colts are helping carry Luck to wins. Wilson has Less picks, more TD passes, Luck averages only 10 more yards a game passing, and Wilson has the wins going for him as well. Not sure what else he needs to do. But it is an opinion.[/QUOTE]

O I don't think Luck is elite yet either but just saying he doesn't have a Great team around him like Seattle.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047031]O I don't think Luck is elite yet either but just saying he doesn't have a Great team around him like Seattle.[/quote]

So it would be similar to Manning vs. Brady then. Like I said before there is too much in Wilson's favor to put any young QB ahead of him.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047032]So it would be similar to Manning vs. Brady then. Like I said before there is too much in Wilson's favor to put any young QB ahead of him.[/QUOTE]

Saying Wilson is Brady and luck is manning after 2 years is way out there my man .

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047034]Saying Wilson is Brady and luck is manning after 2 years is way out there my man .[/quote]

I am saying the debate is similar, people that think Manning is better than Brady believe Brady was more successful because of the team, but Manning was actually better he just didn't have the supporting cast.

I am in no way saying those two groups of QBs are comparable.

[QUOTE=donofriose;1047036]I am saying the debate is similar, people that think Manning is better than Brady believe Brady was more successful because of the team, but Manning was actually better he just didn't have the supporting cast.

I am in no way saying those two groups of QBs are comparable.[/QUOTE]

O ok yeah I see what your saying. I just hope Griffin is back to a baller next year

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Interesting to see how Carolina will respond being down in the road in a playoff atmosphere. This is exactly the situation I think they can't overcome, let's see how they play.

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Just saw the replay of the Cleveland pass interference call in the last minute of the game. Wow that was effing awful. And horseshoe up the ass t Brady threw for the score. Damn it.


I think the officiating this season has been terrible. League needs to do something

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[quote=Chico23231;1047086]Just saw the replay of the Cleveland pass interference call in the last minute of the game. Wow that was effing awful. And horseshoe up the ass t Brady threw for the score. Damn it.


I think the officiating this season has been terrible. League needs to do something[/quote]

Agreement on all. And u can thank the new rules to Gronks busted knee. Playin db in the nfl has got to be one of the toughest positions in sports.

Latest news is Houston is not interested in MS even if he's fired

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047170]Latest news is Houston is not interested in MS even if he's fired[/quote]

Wonder if they'd want Kyle back though, at least as OC.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/10108168/rob-gronkowski-new-england-patriots-tears-acl-mcl-knee]Rob Gronkowski of New England Patriots tears ACL, MCL in knee - ESPN Boston[/url]
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Gronk done

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1047170]Latest news is Houston is not interested in MS even if he's fired[/quote]

I hope they're not talking to Lovie. He's ours!! :)

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This was the worse news of week 14.

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/all-tapped-out-packers-fans-couldn-t-quench-their-thirst-120913]All tapped out? Packers fans couldn't quench their thirst | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

The 77,550 fans braving temperatures that went as low as 9 degrees Sunday at Lambeau Field were left with one other minor inconvenience: [B]The beer and soda lines were frozen,[/B] depriving those fans of even a little bit of solace.

[QUOTE=The Goat;1047258]I hope they're not talking to Lovie. He's ours!! :)[/QUOTE]

They do want Lovie

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[quote=firstdown;1047390]This was the worse news of week 14.

[url=http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/all-tapped-out-packers-fans-couldn-t-quench-their-thirst-120913]All tapped out? Packers fans couldn't quench their thirst | FOX Sports on MSN[/url]

The 77,550 fans braving temperatures that went as low as 9 degrees Sunday at Lambeau Field were left with one other [B]minor[/B] inconvenience: [B]The beer and soda lines were frozen,[/B] depriving those fans of even a little bit of solace.[/quote]

Minor? I guess that is minor when you consider that it might not be necessary to help distract from the product on the field. At FedEx, on the other hand....

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PTI Just took a steamer on the skins from top to bottom. Well deserved

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Ouch. The Cardinals' win over St. Louis came with a price.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10108830/tyrann-mathieu-arizona-cardinals-torn-acl]Tyrann Mathieu of Arizona Cardinals has torn ACL - ESPN[/url]

Mccown is on.fire and Jeffery is a baller

[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1047541]Mccown is on.fire and Jeffery is a baller[/QUOTE]

Jeffery is a beast, he had a great catch earlier.

It's crazy that the natural grass field in Chicago is so much better than the grass at FedEx. It looks like they just put down new sod thru the middle. How is it theirs can hold together thru the cold and the snow and ours is always complete crap. Why does everything about the skins have to suck...

He was a stud at SCAR as well

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Sick catch by Jeffrey.