Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

Sign him. Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3.. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down

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[quote=Meks;1051117]Sign him. [B]Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3[/B].. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down[/quote]This I can agree with. The 3-4 was never going to reach it's full potential without a Haloti Ngata/Vince Wilfork type at nose tackle. Cofield is a good player, but not a dominant guy who eats multiple blocks and allows his ILB's to make plays running downhill. Bottom line, I don't want to see Rak lost in space chasing a TE or a RB when he should be wreaking havoc in the backfield every down.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

[quote=Meks;1051117]Sign him. Put he and kerrigan in the dirt in the 4-3.. We never had the person ell for the 3-4, ever, and still don't. Please go back and let these guys do what they do best... Blast off the line and make plays every down[/quote]

They should be outta the Orakpo business. I agree go back to the 4-3 (maybe a hybrid) and sign a younger, cheaper, and possibly better player or two.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

I think with the injury, we could possibly get him for 8 mil per year, more realistically 9 or 9.5, but 4 years 36-39 mil for Orakpo is a good deal. Unless he is wanting 10 mil per or more, sign him and keep your bookends intact, so that when we DO get a competent secondary, Our defense will finally look MUCH improved. I don't think he will command over 10 mil per year.

Yes he is the best we have. But there is no way he is top 5 at his position right now, just no way. He MIGHT scratch the top 10, but 10 mil per year is too much.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

Hope y'all had a very merry Christmas.

Assuming we have new HC and DC, it'll be interesting what their "outside" perspective is on orakpo and his value. I think a 4-3 coach will see a ton of value in Rak and want to coach him into elite echelons.

Regardless, I think we should up the best offer he gets by a bonus. He's earned it.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051299]Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.[/quote]

And who do suggest we replace him with? Did u see what happened after got hurt against the cowboys? No pass rush and DeMarco Murray scores. He is the Redskins best pass rusher.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

I want him back but it has to be reasonable numbers. When is the last time he came through with a pass rush in a big situation with a game on the line? It's hard to remember. He never developed the way I hoped he would. How much of that is playing him out of position...don't know.

Not sure if we can carry the number but I would almost rather franchise him and let him play 1 year in a 43 defense to establish his actual worth.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1051299]Orakpo isn't worth the what he's going to get paid. Unless he gives us a substantial hometown discount, I'm not interested.[/quote]

Big Hair wants a team full of back ups who over achieve on the field and get paid back up money. He wants a lot of draft picks. Like St. Louis have although these extra draft picks have not gotten them to the playoffs. He wants all NFL players to be paid less. He is an ideologue that wants the NFL returned to purity.

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Like Vinny in reverse ^

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1051330]And who do suggest we replace him with? Did u see what happened after got hurt against the cowboys? No pass rush and DeMarco Murray scores. He is the Redskins best pass rusher.[/quote]


Bob Saget obviously.

Re: The re-sign Orakpo thread
 

I agree that we shouldn't overpay but i think we should make him a fair offer and then the ball is in his court

The thing is he plays a position that is generally a highly payed position because edgerushers that can actually produce don't grow on trees. If we were to let him walk edge rusher becomes our number one need which we would probably have to overpay somebody to fill. See how that works? He's may not be in the elite class but he is well above average and i thought his play against the run and in coverage was much improved this year. Also if we change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 that could be a very good thing for his production. He has never been allowed to play a full time DE position in the NFL although when he was coming out in the draft most projected that to be his best position

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ive heard Vincent Rey brought up already. ROLB.. solid upside player from cincy in fact he was very active in that last wildcard even.

if we did release Orakpo i wouldnt be completly pissed if we replaced him with Rey to save some cap for more roster balace. But of course i want Orakpo back hes breaching elite form and he missed our playoff run in `12. We need him back. Him and DHall. I hope Hall takes a nice deal but hes coming off two solid years. Oraks gonna be pursued if we release with no immediate resig. i could see like the patriots with him already hes a smart LB any coach would take him 3-4 4-3 he could fit

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[quote=delusional optimist;1053680]I agree that we shouldn't overpay but i think we should make him a fair offer and then the ball is in his court

The thing is he plays a position that is generally a highly payed position because edgerushers that can actually produce don't grow on trees. If we were to let him walk edge rusher becomes our number one need which we would probably have to overpay somebody to fill. See how that works? He's may not be in the elite class but he is well above average and i thought his play against the run and in coverage was much improved this year. Also if we change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 that could be a very good thing for his production. He has never been allowed to play a full time DE position in the NFL although when he was coming out in the draft most projected that to be his best position[/quote]

i agree with all this.

imo it all depends on how much rak is looking for and how interested he is in testing FA.

if i was a player id want to test FA.