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[quote=Chico23231;1050889]You hold Dallas to 24 points you should beat them at home. Dont put that shit on the defense. This is squarely on Kyle and Mike and whoever is the idiot running special teams.

I would love it if Snyder came in and fired Kyle today. He should, fire Kyle and see if Shanny would resign.[/quote]

Then Mike would say Dan interfered with his staff and he would win the 7 milion dollar prize.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1050891]Then Mike would say Dan interfered with his staff and he would win the 7 milion dollar prize.[/quote]

Yeah exactly. Mike has full control over the coaches and roster. The bigggest reason I dont see a big time coach here is Dan has given one man full control three times amd twice its ended badly.

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[quote=Gary84Clark;1050891]Then Mike would say Dan interfered with his staff and he would win the 7 milion dollar prize.[/quote]

that money is already gone. he should send a fuck you on the way out.

Its a disgrace the way Shanny has handled the second half of the season. Folks, this isnt poor or bad or not good...this is to the point of disgrace and detrimental to the future of the franchise.

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[quote=Chico23231;1050889]You hold Dallas to 24 points you should beat them at home. Dont put that shit on the defense. This is squarely on Kyle and Mike and whoever is the idiot running special teams.

I would love it if Snyder came in and fired Kyle today. He should, fire Kyle and see if Shanny would resign.[/quote]

Plenty of blame to go around...offense, defense and teams. But when you have 4th and goal from the 12 yard line, with a QB that's limping, you have to bring pressure there. Can't let Romo sit back there and have 10 seconds to throw. To me that was inexcusable.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1050896]Plenty of blame to go around...offense, defense and teams. But when you have 4th and goal from the 12 yard line, with a QB that's limping, you have to bring pressure there. Can't let Romo sit back there and have 10 seconds to throw. To me that was inexcusable.[/quote]

it was a bad call not to bring pressure there. I agree 100%. But I thought the defense overall did enugh to win the game.

I mean the special teams spotted dallas 7 off the bat, so 17 total to a decent offense isnt bad.

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[quote=Chico23231;1050889]You hold Dallas to 24 points you should beat them at home. Dont put that shit on the defense. This is squarely on Kyle and Mike and whoever is the idiot running special teams.

I would love it if Snyder came in and fired Kyle today. He should, fire Kyle and see if Shanny would resign.[/quote]

Make that 17 points. Birdbrain and his ST crew should receive full credit for the first 7 points Dallas scored.

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RG3 starts yesterday, we win the game by 10. Effing shanny and this bs.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1050874]There's no question.[/quote]

I don't know maybe I have selective memory or maybe because I haven't watched every game this year, but that 2009 team was one of the worst performing and most poorly managed teams I remember. Zorn had almost no support from the players and it still seems like many still support(ed) Shanny before the cowboys game.

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Don't let the players off the hook for yesterday....

The coaches are a crew of losers though. Time to get rid of losers and move on. Que loser talk at 3pm today.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1050896]Plenty of blame to go around...offense, defense and teams. But when you have 4th and goal from the 12 yard line, with a QB that's limping, you have to bring pressure there. Can't let Romo sit back there and have 10 seconds to throw. To me that was inexcusable.[/quote]

Or how about just covering the back?

Let Romo threaten to run all day, there's no way he was going to run it in from that spot.

What Riley was thinking is beyond me.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1050902]Or how about just covering the back?

Let Romo threaten to run all day, there's no way he was going to run it in from that spot.

What Riley was thinking is beyond me.[/QUOTE]

Just a stupid play and I had a horrible feeling we would get beat by Romo on that play and yep it happened lol I even laughed after it happened I wasn't mad at all

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[quote=Mattyk;1050902]Or how about just covering the back?

Let Romo threaten to run all day, there's no way he was going to run it in from that spot.

What Riley was thinking is beyond me.[/quote]Bill Belichick, as much as I hate him, has a great maxim that he repeats over and over to his players: "Do your job." Riley got away from his on this play, who did he think was going to cover Murray when he allowed him to run free in the flat? This is a recurring theme here, where players get away from their assignments. It only takes one player not doing their job for any given play to break down.

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[quote=Mattyk;1050902]Or how about just covering the back?

Let Romo threaten to run all day, there's no way he was going to run it in from that spot.

What Riley was thinking is beyond me.[/quote]


Riley is dumb as a box of rocks.

[QUOTE=Gary84Clark;1050907]Riley is dumb as a box of rocks.[/QUOTE]

He wanted to be the hero and go tackle Romo and tony clowned on that fool, like I've said all along Romo is a beast , dude is a top 10 QB in the league and he proved it again yesterday

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[quote=Mattyk;1050902]Or how about just covering the back?

Let Romo threaten to run all day, there's no way he was going to run it in from that spot.

What Riley was thinking is beyond me.[/quote]

W/out Rak in there we really had 0 pass rush. At some point someone would have got open. Pressure, force an early throw and come up and make a tackle. Game over.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1050909]He wanted to be the hero and go tackle Romo and tony clowned on that fool, like I've said all along Romo is a beast , dude is a top 10 QB in the league and he proved it again yesterday[/quote]

They were saying on the MMQB Show that only P. Manning has more game winning drives than Romo. Romo is a solid QB.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1050904]Just a stupid play and I had a horrible feeling we would get beat by Romo on that play and yep it happened lol I even laughed after it happened I wasn't mad at all[/quote]

As soon as Romo broke the pocket I knew it was over. How we don't bring pressure and sit back in a soft zone is just beyond me.

[QUOTE=irish;1050913]They were saying on the MMQB Show that only P. Manning has more game winning drives than Romo. Romo is a solid QB.[/QUOTE]

If he was playing anywhere else he'd be considered a great player , just look at his stats

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[quote=Chico23231;1050899]RG3 starts yesterday, we win the game by 10. Effing shanny and this bs.[/quote]

KC played an ok game. I think he did enough for us to win. Did he play great? Hell no! The big thing is he's getting the ball out and giving the wr's a chance to run after the catch, and not taking any sacks. 1 sack the last two games!! Now if any of you have a football IQ then don't come and tell me it's the line playing better. KC is getting back there and not dicking around with the ball. It's coming the hell out. You could see he was reading his coverages. Had Griff played we have more rushing yards, but in obvious pass downs he's going to hold the damn ball, scramble around trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit, take another 5-6 sacks and probably fumble a few times.

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Romo does better when he is on the move. its kinda weird, but he is pretty good, ill give him that. But boy does he drop some floaters and stinkers of passses at times.....

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[quote=irish;1050913]They were saying on the MMQB Show that only P. Manning has more game winning drives than Romo. Romo is a solid QB.[/quote]

As much as I hate to say it, he was the difference yesterday. He was the best player on the field.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1050921]As much as I hate to say it, he was the difference yesterday. He was the best player on the field.[/quote]

Pierre Garcon may have something to say about that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1050917]If he was playing anywhere else he'd be considered a great player , just look at his stats[/quote]

Absolutely. I cant help but think that if RG3 ended up with a career like Romo then drafting him was worth it.

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[quote=Paintrain;1050923]Pierre Garcon may have something to say about that.[/quote]

Yeah he tore it up. Hopefully we can find a solid compliment to him next year.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1050925]Yeah he tore it up. Hopefully we can find a solid compliment to him next year.[/QUOTE]

Well WR should he our top 3 priority IMO, it's obvious that we need help there

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[quote=Paintrain;1050923]Pierre Garcon may have something to say about that.[/quote]

Yeah he was just a monster yesterday. But he needs someone on the other side in the worst way. I would like to see Eric Decker in a Redskin uniform next year ....with a healthy Jordan Reed.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1050931]Yeah he was just a monster yesterday. But he needs someone on the other side in the worst way.[B] I would like to see Eric Decker in a Redskin uniform next year ....with a healthy Jordan Reed.[/B][/quote]

This. And then draft Robert Herron to take over the slot. Our WR corps would go from needing help, to being a strength.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1050931]I would like to see Eric Decker in a Redskin uniform next year ....with a healthy Jordan Reed.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to see Megan Fox in my Cali King bed, we all have dreams......

What player in their right mind would come to such a disfunctional team? If they come they're here for a payday, nothing more.

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[quote=Paintrain;1050916]As soon as Romo broke the pocket I knew it was over. How we don't bring pressure and sit back in a soft zone is just beyond me.[/quote]

The instant that the Cowboys were thrown for a loss on 3rd down, Haslett consulted his copy of "Defensive Play-Calling for Dummies" and went to the soft zone.

I sincerely doubt that he considered the facts that Romo couldn't run, that Orakpo was out of the game, and that Romo always beats us when we play soft.

He is a terrible DC and he must be replaced for us to have a chance to become winners.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1050919]KC played an ok game. I think he did enough for us to win. Did he play great? Hell no! The big thing is he's getting the ball out and giving the wr's a chance to run after the catch, and not taking any sacks. 1 sack the last two games!! Now if any of you have a football IQ then don't come and tell me it's the line playing better. KC is getting back there and not dicking around with the ball. It's coming the hell out. You could see he was reading his coverages. Had Griff played we have more rushing yards, but in obvious pass downs he's going to hold the damn ball, scramble around trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit, take another 5-6 sacks and probably fumble a few times.[/quote]

Basically you are saying KC does the same things Rex does. Beck check down king, but no sacks. There is a reason KC is a 4th round pick, and RG3 is the 1st round pick.

[QUOTE=redskins5044;1050765]IMO Synder is going to go in one of two directions. He either tries to get another established coach like Gruden or Cowher who will be like Shanny and want to do things his way. Or we will become the Cowboys who brings in yes men who cater to Synder and RG3.[/QUOTE]

What makes you think Shanny wanted to do things Snyders way, if i am not mistaken that was thee number one condition on him taking the job - that Snyder stays out of the personnel moves, etc and he has.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1050930]Well WR should he our top 3 priority IMO, it's obvious that we need help there[/QUOTE]

Its a priority, but not nearly as important as o-line, dback/safety, mlb, dline. I think wr is next on the list. Reed, and even Hank are better than damn morgan.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1050899]RG3 starts yesterday, we win the game by 10. Effing shanny and this bs.[/QUOTE]

I think Cousins played well enough to win, and better than Griff has played at any point this year. Hopefully next year with new coaching, new line, and his health Griff can be really good but he would not have been better than Cousins yesterday imo. Shanny is in this position because of the God awful staff he has placed around him and the horrible team he has assembled. Playing KC may be BS because of the reasons why but as far as giving us a better chance to win I agree with it at this point.

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Robinson has stepped up as of late too.

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[quote=punch it in;1050945]What makes you think Shanny wanted to do things Snyders way, if i am not mistaken that was thee number one condition on him taking the job - that Snyder stays out of the personnel moves, etc and he has.[/quote]

I don't know why everyone is saying Snyder want to run the team. I think Snyder has done a great job staying out of the way the past 3 years and I hope that continues. I still think Mike S gets one more year. What gets me is why our Special Teams coach has not been fired.

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[quote=punch it in;1050947]Its a priority, but not nearly as important as o-line, dback/safety, mlb, dline. I think wr is next on the list. Reed, and even Hank are better than damn morgan.[/quote]

Wrong, wrong wrong. It's a huge priority. This is a points league and we need to be able to score points. One of the reasons (in addition to oline weakness and QB development) why our passing game suffered is our receivers not being able to win their battles. We can't keep trying to patch our receiving group with 'just enough to get by' players like Morgan, Moss, Hankerson and Robinson. Garcon is a legit threat, we need a dynamic player across from him. Not a Megatron or Larry Fitzgerald but at least a Maclin, Decker or even Emmanuel Sanders that a defense has to account for. Additionally we need a slot receiver who can, I don't know, catch? Love #89 but he's been Santana Miss for a few years now. Get a slot guy/return weapon like a McCluster.

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[quote=punch it in;1050949][B]I think Cousins played well enough to win, and better than Griff has played at any point this year.[/B] Hopefully next year with new coaching, new line, and his health Griff can be really good but he would not have been better than Cousins yesterday imo. Shanny is in this position because of the God awful staff he has placed around him and the horrible team he has assembled. Playing KC may be BS because of the reasons why but as far as giving us a better chance to win I agree with it at this point.[/quote]

Cousins played better than Griffin vs. Chicago or San Diego or 1st halves of the Giants or Minnesota games? Really? A healthy Griffin wouldn't have been better than Cousins yesterday? I hope you mean last week because yesterday Cousins played OK but he wasn't the better QB on the field. He was almost identical to Romo in fact and as many have compared, very Rex-like.

Just as 3-10 isn't all on Griffin, 0-2 isn't all on Cousins but lets not act like he's dramatically upgraded the position. He's looked decent and pretty much like a guy in his 3rd NFL start should. Results and numbers don't lie though.

[QUOTE=Paintrain;1050971]Wrong, wrong wrong. It's a huge priority. This is a points league and we need to be able to score points. One of the reasons (in addition to oline weakness and QB development) why our passing game suffered is our receivers not being able to win their battles. We can't keep trying to patch our receiving group with 'just enough to get by' players like Morgan, Moss, Hankerson and Robinson. Garcon is a legit threat, we need a dynamic player across from him. Not a Megatron or Larry Fitzgerald but at least a Maclin, Decker or even Emmanuel Sanders that a defense has to account for. Additionally we need a slot receiver who can, I don't know, catch? Love #89 but he's been Santana Miss for a few years now. Get a slot guy/return weapon like a McCluster.[/QUOTE]

Well if you are saying that our defense is not more of a priority than a complimentary wr to Garcon I think i am happy you are not our GM. Lol. I agree that we need one, but it is not our top priority.

[QUOTE=Paintrain;1050972]Cousins played better than Griffin vs. Chicago or San Diego or 1st halves of the Giants or Minnesota games? Really? A healthy Griffin wouldn't have been better than Cousins yesterday? I hope you mean last week because yesterday Cousins played OK but he wasn't the better QB on the field. He was almost identical to Romo in fact and as many have compared, very Rex-like.

Just as 3-10 isn't all on Griffin, 0-2 isn't all on Cousins but lets not act like he's dramatically upgraded the position. He's looked decent and pretty much like a guy in his 3rd NFL start should. Results and numbers don't lie though.[/QUOTE]

Well I did say that Griff needs to be 100%. If he is I want him on the field. For the examples of Good Griff you listed, there are several more examples of bad Griff this year. My point was that NO I dont think if Griff plays yesterday that it is an automatic win. Not even close.

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I think the QB question should be resolved by competition, not telling any new HC that RGIII is the franchise QB.