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[quote=JoeRedskin;1062603]$100.00 Right here, right now says, barring a new (not just a recurrence of the plantar faciiitis) PG is on the team next year. I don't care how you mark it down, hold me to it, etc. if right, you can remind the entire WP.

$100 cash money.[/quote]

3 2 1 ...... to GT back peddling. Won't put his money where his mouth is. Book it!

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I'll take that action too. $100. For real GTripp, dead serious. I'll paypal it right now to whoever's willing to hold it for us.

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[quote=Schneed10;1062606]I'll take that action too. $100. For real GTripp, dead serious. I'll paypal it right now to whoever's willing to hold it for us.[/quote]

Do it to Matty's account that we set up VIP accounts with.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062602]Can't talk about other team's players, that's tampering.[/quote]

I believe you've been tampered with.


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[quote=mredskins;1062604]3 2 1 ...... to GT back peddling. Won't put his money where his mouth is. Book it![/quote]

GT is so f'ing annoying. Loves going against the masses. Its what he does. I just ignore him.

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PG is probaly one of the best FA signings we have had in some time.

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[quote=mredskins;1062607]Do it to Matty's account that we set up VIP accounts with.[/quote]

Good idea...loser donates to the WP!

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[quote=Schneed10;1062601]Cash is irrelevant, cap is the constraint for the Redskins, not cash. Cash is an issue for teams like the Bengals and Bills, not us.

As for marginal value, you're forgetting about the contract inflation that comes along with an increasing cap. When 2015 hits and the cap is $140M or higher, a $10M cap number for a highly effective WR will not seem bad in comparison. In fact I don't think you'll be able to find a single better value among the players who hit the open market next year.

As for a bet, yes I'll take it with you any day, he will absolutely be a Redskin in 2015. [B]I think people around here will look forward to seeing you proved wrong a lot more than you think[/B].[/quote]That bolded thing is the truest thing you've said today.

Look, if he earns an extension, then I'm flat wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time. But if he plays at a level unworthy of an extension, he's a cap casualty. That's just good cap management, which you've lauded this team before. So if you think they'll continue to show good cap management...then I don't understand how you can't see how safe my position is here.

All of that would have been the case if the Shanahan's were still in charge, but it's a regime that isn't responsible for his contract. So...yeah, connect the dots whenever.

By the way, when I actually am wrong, I enjoy people poking fun at how dumb I am. Makes me feel important.

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Not backpeddaling, but I'm 26 and can't just bet $100 on sports whenever I feel like. I think it's a good bet, to be honest. But I would not bet on what I'm not good for. I know for a fact Schneed is good for $100.

36 year old GTripp would love to take that bet though.

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$100 GTripp ... easy money according to you.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062615]Not backpeddaling, but I'm 26 and can't just bet $100 on sports whenever I feel like. I think it's a good bet, to be honest. But I would not bet on what I'm not good for. I know for a fact Schneed is good for $100.

36 year old GTripp would love to take that bet though.[/quote]

What?

Pussy. Totally fucking pussy.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062613]That bolded thing is the truest thing you've said today.

Look, if he earns an extension, then I'm flat wrong. Wouldn't be the first or last time. But if he plays at a level unworthy of an extension, he's a cap casualty. That's just good cap management, which you've lauded this team before. So if you think they'll continue to show good cap management...then I don't understand how you can't see how safe my position is here.

All of that would have been the case if the Shanahan's were still in charge, but it's a regime that isn't responsible for his contract. So...yeah, connect the dots whenever.

By the way, when I actually am wrong, [B]I enjoy people poking fun at how dumb I am. Makes me feel important.[/B][/quote]

That's not respect you're earning. It's resentment. You might think you're giving well thought out opinions, but the problem is you present yourself like an ass and people hate it. A good portion of the forum skips your posts. The others either want to see you knocked down a peg, or in my case, are just big enough assholes to go out of their way to do it.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1062612]Good idea...loser donates to the WP![/quote]I'd donate if I'm wrong on this one. That good for everyone?

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062615]Not backpeddaling, but I'm 26 and can't just bet $100 on sports whenever I feel like. I think it's a good bet, to be honest. But I would not bet on what I'm not good for. I know for a fact Schneed is good for $100.

36 year old GTripp would love to take that bet though.[/quote]

You have 2 years to save it. Skip a Big Mac once a month and you've got it.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062620]I'd donate if I'm wrong on this one. That good for everyone?[/quote]

Not for me. You give me the $100 when you're wrong so I can wave it in your face while I pay for your mom's dinner bill.

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[quote=Schneed10;1062622]Not for me. You give me the $100 when you're wrong so I can wave it in your face while I pay for your mom's dinner bill.[/quote]

I agree S10 put his $100 where his mouth is now pussy GTripp needs to do the same.

GT we are all sick of listening to your BS for so many years.

Man up and place the bet.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062615]Not backpeddaling, but I'm 26 and can't just bet $100 on sports whenever I feel like. I think it's a good bet, to be honest. But I would not bet on what I'm not good for. I know for a fact Schneed is good for $100.

36 year old GTripp would love to take that bet though.[/quote]

Well, according to you, it's as safe a bet as there is. According to you I just "don't understand how [I] can't see how safe [your] position is here".

Sounds like guaranteed money and I am just the dumb sap to pay it to you.

Just how safe is your position?
$100
$50
$25
$10
$5
$1
$.01

C'mon GTripp, is the safest bet you got really worth nothing?

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[quote=Schneed10;1062619]That's not respect you're earning. It's resentment. You might think you're giving well thought out opinions, but the problem is you present yourself like an ass and people hate it. A good portion of the forum skips your posts. The others either want to see you knocked down a peg, or in my case, are just big enough assholes to go out of their way to do it.[/quote]And that's why I respect you.

I'm aware of all of this by the way. But historically, people don't skip over my posts, that's false. Check the amount of people in this room right now.

I wasn't comfortable with this back in the day, but I had two choices, either 1) change my writing style to conform to the sensibilities of others, or 2) just keep doing my thing and not really give a damn how the internet perceives me.

I just don't mind that I offend people. It isn't intentional. But I accept responsibility for it.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1062625]Well, according to you, it's as safe a bet as there is. According to you I just "don't understand how [I] can't see how safe [your] position is here".

Sounds like guaranteed money and I am just the dumb sap to pay it to you.

Just how safe is your position?
$100
$50
$25
$10
$5
$1
$.01

C'mon GTripp, is the safest bet you got really worth nothing?[/quote]1) it isn't guaranteed money, 2) I don't know what a dollar is going to be worth to me in March 2015.

I think a WP donation if I'm incorrect on this one is fair, especially considering I don't get anything out of it if I'm right.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062626]And that's why I respect you.

I'm aware of all of this by the way. But historically, people don't skip over my posts, that's false. Check the amount of people in this room right now.

I wasn't comfortable with this back in the day, but I had two choices, either 1) change my writing style to conform to the sensibilities of others, or 2) just keep doing my thing and not really give a damn how the internet perceives me.

I just don't mind that I offend people. It isn't intentional. But I accept responsibility for it.[/quote]

You are right in saying you are the reason why so many are viewing this thread. Just not for the reason you think. I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, 4pm is almost here and I'm tired of dealing with you. I'm ready to open a beer and some free agency Christmas presents.

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14 minutes until Roberts is a Redskin.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062628]1) it isn't guaranteed money, 2) I don't know what a dollar is going to be worth to me in March 2015.
[/quote]


Not much at this rate. :D

You'll probably have to pay up in Pesos.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062620]I'd donate if I'm wrong on this one. That good for everyone?[/quote]

lol ... still a back pedal. I was really looking forward to cash.

but, yeah, Garcon's on the 2015 final roster and you owe WP $100. I WILL mark it down.

... and for the record, I am good for the $100 also.

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[quote=Schneed10;1062622]Not for me. You give me the $100 when you're wrong so I can wave it in your face while I pay for your mom's dinner bill.[/quote]I see the right to defend an opinion costs a lot more these days.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1062633]lol ... still a back pedal. I was really looking forward to cash.

but, yeah, Garcon's on the 2015 final roster and you owe WP $100. I WILL mark it down.

... and for the record, I am good for the $100 also.[/quote]Well, you can do $100 if that's the price of your dignity.

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Sounds like GTripp won't receive The Warpath blogger of the year award... I for don't see any circumstance, other than a catastrophic injury, where Garcon will not be in the B & G in 2015. If we had a couple proven up and coming WR's, maybe... But our WR corps is depleted with talent, and would be the leagues absolute worst without Garcon...

So, about that Roberts guy...

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[quote=Schneed10;1062629]You are right in saying you are the reason why so many are viewing this thread. Just not for the reason you think. I'll leave it at that.

Anyway, 4pm is almost here and I'm tired of dealing with you. I'm ready to open a beer and some free agency Christmas presents.[/quote]I think you're selling my self-awareness short. But what bothers you doesn't bother me.

Except people who are arrogant and wrong. We agree on that: it's a bad look.

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[quote=Fiversons;1062636]Sounds like GTripp won't receive The Warpath blogger of the year award... I for don't see any circumstance, other than a catastrophic injury, where Garcon will not be in the B & G in 2015. If we had a couple proven up and coming WR's, maybe... But our WR corps is depleted with talent, and would be the leagues absolute worst without Garcon...

So, about that Roberts guy...[/quote]Nah, not getting nominated this year. Bummer.

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[quote=Fiversons;1062636]So, about that Roberts guy...[/quote]

Boy has some moves...

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[YT]OD-5PBUiMY0[/YT]
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And he does punt duty too...
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[quote=Monkeydad;1062642]Boy has some moves...

[YT]8xO6heYgr4c[/YT]
[YT]OD-5PBUiMY0[/YT]
[YT]G6JWjanQwxQ[/YT]


And he does punt duty too...
[YT]fjQgdQqCk98[/YT][/quote]

Will we be using him in a KR PR role as well or strictly a WR?

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Okay, so this is not tampering anymore? Cool.

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I like this signing. It's not a "Championship, baby!" move, but he's a solid and affordable WR.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1062635]Well, you can do $100 if that's the price of your dignity.[/quote]

lol ... my dignity? Don't talk about dignity when the first reaction out your mouth was "Um, wow didn't think anyone would call me on that." My dignity is clearly beyond your ken.

When called on to back you words up with a real substantive risk, you backpedaled and then, cornered, weaseled into a path that limits your damages as there is no way in hell you were winning this bet and one payment to the WP is better than backing away from you word 20 times.

To show you how to really man up: I will match your $100. Garcon's not on the team in 2015 for any reason other than injury, I will contribute $100 to the WP. On top of that - I will take the first $250 in wagers from [I]anyone[/I] who supports your position that Garcon will not be on the team's final roster in 2015. Anyone here want to back GTripp? The offer is open for the next 30 days.

Stand by you words ... that is the beginning of dignity.

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[quote=Fiversons;1062648]Will we be using him in a KR PR role as well or strictly a WR?[/quote]


We do not know, gtripp has not called Gruden about it yet.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1062659]lol ... my dignity? Don't talk about dignity when the first reaction out your mouth was "Um, wow didn't think anyone would call me on that." My dignity is clearly beyond your ken.

When called on to back you words up with a real substantive risk, you backpedaled and then, cornered, weaseled into a path that limits your damages as there is no way in hell you were winning this bet and one payment to the WP is better than backing away from you word 20 times.

To show you how to really man up: I will match your $100. Garcon's not on the team in 2015 for any reason other than injury, I will contribute $100 to the WP. On top of that - I will take the first $250 in wagers from [I]anyone[/I] who supports your position that Garcon will not be on the team's final roster in 2015. Anyone here want to back GTripp? The offer is open for the next 30 days.

Stand by you words ... that is the beginning of dignity.[/quote]Never once did I react the way you allege.

Look, I think it's a total sucker move to bet money against people you don't know over the internet. Which is why I considered Schneed's proposal and not yours. I've done stuff that with him before. I'm a lot of things, but not a sucker.

I always stand by my words, and because that is so, the money is not necessary.

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4 yrs $16M for Roberts

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[quote=mredskins;1062611]PG is probaly one of the best FA signings we have had in some time.[/quote]

Well after the first year it was a little scary with that toe injury. But what I like and respect most about Garcon is that dude week in and week out comes to play his ass off. He plays physical and angry. He's got an attitude on the field. We need about 10 more guys like him.

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Robert Griffin III ‏@RGIII 2m
Yo #RedskinsNation welcome @AndreRoberts_FA to the #Movement #BackTheTeam

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John Keim ‏@john_keim 2m
confirm the #'s tweeted by @RavensInsider regarding A. Roberts deal: 4 yrs, 16 mil, 8 mil guaranteed, with 1.25 first yr salary guaranteed

so roughly a 3.25M salary cap hit.

Need our cap gurus to start crunching some numbers to let us know where we stand please.

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Honestly, I would draft Jordan Matthews and create a hard working group of receivers (Garcon, Roberts, and Matthews).

Although I do think Britt is a value pick up.