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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1100602]No chance GW is coming back after that coin toss incident.[/quote]are you talking about recently when they brought out their players they had gotten from the Griffin trade? Because that was hilarious.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1100663]are you talking about recently when they brought out their players they had gotten from the Griffin trade? Because that was hilarious.[/quote]

I must agree, it was pretty funny (and we deserve it).

Not sure Danny will see the humor in it.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1100588]I haven't really asked.

Gregg Williams would come back. I mean I don't see it happening, but he's not not coming back because of any beef with Dan. That's just not true[/quote]

As DC?? Why would he leave the same position with an up and coming team, and way superior coaches, to come here??

Could see him come back as HC though. It might reverse the Bad Kaarma somehow lol, like going full circle back to Gibbs exit.

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Short of Snyder firing everyone, stepping down from day-to-day operation and handing the keys to a professional GM (Ozzie Newsome) and Coach (Jim Harbaugh) no one worth a damn is coming here.

With Snyder you will always get sycophants like Vinny/Allen and Gruden/Zorn and world class marketing. Don't believe me? Give it a couple of years and you will be have the same conversions you're having now.

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^ I disagree Saden, we have money to get anyone. Watching the Philly game the secondary played well despite the play calling of Haz. Breeland has talent, I think Phillip Thomas is getting better with each game. I swear if another TE goes HAM on us Haz should get his ass kicked for stealing money.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1101023]^ I disagree Saden, we have money to get anyone. Watching the Philly game the secondary played well despite the play calling of Haz. Breeland has talent, I think Phillip Thomas is getting better with each game. I swear if another TE goes HAM on us Haz should get his ass kicked for stealing money.[/quote]

The failure to make adjustments during the game is a killer. We have made a few TE's pro bowlers this year. (NY, Indy, Minn, Philly, TB).

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1100675]I must agree, it was pretty funny (and we deserve it).

Not sure Danny will see the humor in it.[/quote]


GW wasn't even with the Rams when that trade went down and that coin toss thing was clearly a doing of Jeff Fisher.

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Do you realize that we let Mark Sanchez convert a 3rd and 25? Hazlett should have been fired right after that play. Right on the sideline for rushing 3 guys and playing that shit zone defense. Go get your things in your locker and we'll call you a cab and we'll send you your shit. Lol. All kidding aside they need to bring in another coordinator who can make in game adjustments better than Hazlett.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1101238]Do you realize that we let Mark Sanchez convert a 3rd and 25? Hazlett should have been fired right after that play. Right on the sideline for rushing 3 guys and playing that shit zone defense. Go get your things in your locker and we'll call you a cab and we'll send you your shit. Lol. All kidding aside they need to bring in another coordinator who can make in game adjustments better than Hazlett.[/quote]

And a 3rd and 15 also. Weren't you defending him not to long ago?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1100578]Not as good Petitbone except for 85, Gibbs owned his ass during playoff time or huge game.[/quote]

Well obviously we're all biased. Ryan I think was one of those guys that was a great coordinator but not a great head coach as he had no clue what to do with his offense. That why he failed as a head coach.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1101240]Well obviously we're all biased. Ryan I think was one of those guys that was a great coordinator but not a great head coach as he had no clue what to do with his offense. That why he failed as a head coach.[/quote]

Making it to the conference championship twice with Mark Sanchez while playing in the same division as the Patriots is a failure? 4-2 record in the playoffs.

Did this while having squat at the QB position. The GM has really been screwing Ryan. Tons of cap room and no moves to improve the roster. [url=http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2014/10/20/new-york-jets-gm-john-idzik-is-setting-rex-ryan-up-to-fail/]New York Jets GM John Idzik Is Setting Rex Ryan Up To Fail | RantSports[/url]

EDIT:

It was about Buddy. Please add me to the list of people on here with no reading comprehension skills.

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I think that was about Buddy Ryan not Rex

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One forgotten DC who was know as "man genius", is Eric Mangini. Man, he sure went under ground.

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Anybody hear the clip of Gruden talking about Haslett's performance in the Philly game?

Chris Russell and the guys on espn 980 were reading into that Haslett's exit at the end of the season might not be so certain.

Please god, I hope he is just saying kind things about a friend on his way out the door.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1101246]Anybody hear the clip of Gruden talking about Haslett's performance in the Philly game?

Chris Russell and the guys on espn 980 were reading into that Haslett's exit at the end of the season might not be so certain.

Please god, I hope he is just saying kind things about a friend on his way out the door.[/quote]

If Gruden decides to keep him, then Gruden needs to go.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1101237]GW wasn't even with the Rams when that trade went down and that coin toss thing was clearly a doing of Jeff Fisher.[/quote]

The reasons for the coin toss move (as per the guys on the radio):

1. Fisher is good friends with Shanny.
2. Fisher and Bruce Allen HATE each other.
3. GW still bitter he didn't get the HC job when Gibbs left.

Screw Fisher. Guy's been coaching for 20 years and hasn't won sh*t. And his teams are always dirty, like when we played them in 2012 with the replacement refs. Glad the Giants smoked em.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1101248]The reasons for the coin toss move (as per the guys on the radio):

1. Fisher is good friends with Shanny.
2. Fisher and Bruce Allen HATE each other.
3. GW still bitter he didn't get the HC job when Gibbs left.

Screw Fisher. Guy's been coaching for 20 years and hasn't won sh*t. And his teams are always dirty, like when we played them in 2012 with the replacement refs. Glad the Giants smoked em.[/quote]

and Brian Shottenheimer's daddies firing.

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1101248]The reasons for the coin toss move (as per the guys on the radio):

1. Fisher is good friends with Shanny.
2. Fisher and Bruce Allen HATE each other.
3. GW still bitter he didn't get the HC job when Gibbs left.

[B]Screw Fisher[/B]. Guy's been coaching for 20 years and hasn't won sh*t. And his teams are always dirty, like when we played them in 2012 with the replacement refs. Glad the Giants smoked em.[/quote]
And the horse he rode in on........
And BTW....he should have won SB like 6 times with all the picks he got from us....but
Whoop Jeff....another <<<<< .500 season...how can that be?

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[quote=Hog1;1101252]And the horse he rode in on........
And BTW....he should have won SB like 6 times with all the picks he got from us....but
Whoop Jeff....another <<<<< .500 season...how can that be?[/quote]

Fisher is the definition of mediocre. He's done basically nothing his entire career. I don't get the fascination people have with him in NFL circles.

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I know what your saying.....he is purported to be a good dude, but he is a "mediocre" coach, no doubt

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1101245]One forgotten DC who was know as "man genius", is Eric Mangini. Man, he sure went under ground.[/quote]

He's the TE coach in San Fran and supposedly a strong candidate to succeed Harbaugh

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1101248]The reasons for the coin toss move (as per the guys on the radio):

1. Fisher is good friends with Shanny.
2. Fisher and Bruce Allen HATE each other.
3. GW still bitter he didn't get the HC job when Gibbs left.

Screw Fisher. Guy's been coaching for 20 years and hasn't won sh*t. And his teams are always dirty, like when we played them in 2012 with the replacement refs. Glad the Giants smoked em.[/quote]

I wonder why Fisher and Allen hate each other. Did one sleep with the other's wife or something?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1101239]And a 3rd and 15 also. Weren't you defending him not to long ago?[/quote]

I was and still think a lot of this is on the players. But he ought to know by now that we simply can't play zone at all. This is a terrible zone team that can't rush the passer. We play best when sending some pressure. When I saw him rushing 3 guys that was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. On top of that he didn't make any adjustments on Ertz. We seem to make these no name TE's look like Tony Gonzalez.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1101247]If Gruden decides to keep him, then Gruden needs to go.[/quote]

I kind of agree. We can't have this guy back calling the defense. The problem is there's serious nepotism going on at Redskin Park. The only way Haslett is fired if Snyder does it himself. Jay's not going to do it.

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if Jay doesnt fire than snyder should tell him to fire him. If jay refuses he should be let go.... Whoever they hire they need to go back to 4-3. 3-4 hasn't worked for us..you need a dominating NT for that, which we don't have. 4-3 is easier to draft for, most colleges run 4-3.....


[quote=skinsfan69;1101294]I kind of agree. We can't have this guy back calling the defense. The problem is there's serious nepotism going on at Redskin Park. The only way Haslett is fired if Snyder does it himself. Jay's not going to do it.[/quote]

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What's Haslett's contract status? I thought this was the last year of his deal.

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He has one year left on his contract. Supposed to go through 2015.

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[quote=VTSkins1961;1101295]if Jay doesnt fire than snyder should tell him to fire him. If jay refuses he should be let go.... Whoever they hire they need to go back to 4-3. 3-4 hasn't worked for us..you need a dominating NT for that, which we don't have. 4-3 is easier to draft for, most colleges run 4-3.....[/quote]

This is why we need a GM. btw. 3/4 or 4/3 is pretty interchangeable these days. Teams put individuals in for down and distance and match ups that most teams are really hybrids

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[quote=Kope;1101305]This is why we need a GM. btw. 3/4 or 4/3 is pretty interchangeable these days. Teams put individuals in for down and distance and match ups that most teams are really hybrids[/quote]

Thank you, the hangup people have with the 3-4 drives me bonkers. We're not even in a 3-4 the majority of the time. Half the teams in the league are technically a 3-4, yet how many "dominant" nose tackles are there really? It's a myth that without one you can't have a good D.

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Not saying you cant have a good D without one but our D has sucked since HAZ has been here but I prefer 4 down linemen whether or not you have a a LB put his hand in the dirt.....


[quote=Mattyk;1101306]Thank you, the hangup people have with the 3-4 drives me bonkers. We're not even in a 3-4 the majority of the time. Half the teams in the league are technically a 3-4, yet how many "dominant" nose tackles are there really? It's a myth that without one you can't have a good D.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=VTSkins1961;1101310]Not saying you cant have a good D without one but our D has sucked since HAZ has been here but I prefer 4 down linemen whether or not you have a a LB put his hand in the dirt.....[/QUOTE]


We would have sucked under Haz regardless of the front.

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Heard on the radio Gruden retained 5 coaches from last year.

Anybody know who they are? (specifically on defense. Haz, Raheem. . .)

This surprised me. I don't know why, but I thought there was a lot more retention.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1101317]Heard on the radio Gruden retained 5 coaches from last year.

Anybody know who they are? (specifically on defense. Haz, Raheem. . .)

This surprised me. I don't know why, but I thought there was a lot more retention.[/quote]

Haz, Raheem, McVay, Foerster and Burney

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[quote=Mattyk;1101318]Haz, Raheem, McVay, Foerster and Burney[/quote]

No! Say it's not so!

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[quote=Kope;1101305]This is why we need a GM. btw. 3/4 or 4/3 is pretty interchangeable these days. Teams put individuals in for down and distance and match ups that most teams are really hybrids[/quote]

Seattle/NE are perfect examples. You watch those teams and it is obvious they don't follow a strict 4-3 or 3-4.

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Hazmat, Foerster, Kowitka and maybe Morris need to go. Especially the 1st 3 mentioned.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1101298]He has one year left on his contract. Supposed to go through 2015.[/quote]

edit: Apparently he is signed for one more year.

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[quote=Lotus;1101319]No! Say it's not so![/quote]

I think he's talking about retained them from Shanny's regime, not retaining them going into next season. If he retains either Haz or Raheem, then he's trying his damnedest to get fired and walk away with 16mil.

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Totally agree

[quote=Mattyk;1101314]We would have sucked under Haz regardless of the front.[/quote]

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[quote=NC_Skins;1101332]I think he's talking about retained them from Shanny's regime, not retaining them going into next season. If he retains either Haz or Raheem, then he's trying his damnedest to get fired and walk away with 16mil.[/quote]

Yup, sorry, my bad, wrong reading, long day.