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[url=http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/830/article/p2p-83623528/]The Baltimore Sun[/url]

I like how everybody trys to blame every intangile element...how about its illegal to kill people and immoral as well.

We do know basic right and wrong...right? Its not right to kill people folks...

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i made a mistake.

Pastor Bryant drives a Bentley .. not a mercedes.

His wife also divorced him bc he impregnating a 17 year old.

good god, you cant make this up.

pull up the rug and cockroaches come crawling out.

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"The demonstration is the first of what organizers are calling 10 plagues designed to disrupt not just Baltimore but the entire state of Maryland."

This pedo ahole "pastor" plans 9 more disturbances.

Stephanie - do your fucking job and ARREST THIS ASSHOLE next time.

un-freaking-believable what is going on.

start arresting people. please.

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Baltimore City spends more per pupil than every other county in the COUNTRY except Boston and NYC.

[url=http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/District_Dossier/2014/05/maryland_home_to_nearly_half_o.html]Maryland Districts Dominate Top Per-Pupil Spenders, Census Data Show - District Dossier - Education Week[/url]

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1113862]Baltimore City spends more per pupil than every other county in the COUNTRY except Boston and NYC.

[url=http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/District_Dossier/2014/05/maryland_home_to_nearly_half_o.html]Maryland Districts Dominate Top Per-Pupil Spenders, Census Data Show - District Dossier - Education Week[/url][/quote]

I mean, that disgusting. So money isnt the issue for school spending...and folks thats your tax money, what are you getting for that? a city of poverty and uneducated losers.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1113862]Baltimore City spends more per pupil than every other county in the COUNTRY except Boston and NYC.

[url=http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/District_Dossier/2014/05/maryland_home_to_nearly_half_o.html]Maryland Districts Dominate Top Per-Pupil Spenders, Census Data Show - District Dossier - Education Week[/url][/quote]

It is even worse than that. Ive read a ton of articles lately on Balt City history, corruption, budget and economy. I do not vouch for the accuracy of my memory retention though.

Balt City contributes 15-20% of their budget to that 15k per student number. The rest comes from Md State and Federal grants.

The Natl avg for district contribution is around 40%.

Balt City secured some huge State and Federal grants through the 90's but the problem is these grants can be taken back or decreased at any time. Yet Balt City has grown dependent on the grants.

Democrat O'Malley earmarked something like 63 mil from the State's general operating budget to go to education for this year with Balt City receiving a lion share of approx 11 mil.

Problem - new republican gov Hogan was not bound by that 63 mil earmark from the States oper budget and pulled it back, as is his right.

Problem - it seems the balt city teachers union is a powerful group in long held democratic Balt City. In 2010 the teachers union secured a new deal in which teachers get huge raises if they meet certain requirements. raises to the tune of 15-20k per year. Well, certain teachers satisfied the requirements and now I assume make bank. disproportionate bank. The double edge sword is that its hard to criticize inner city school teachers or not appreciate them.

The school district when given money just lose account of it. i read they still keep their accounting books on paper. The balt City school district is currently facing an unprecedented 68 mil dollar deficit. they need to cut payroll, close down more schools and stuff more kids into already congested classrooms.

For some reason a huge grant to rebuild and remodel old schools in the district just disappeared as well. the money was to keep schools open and update but instead schools closed down during the time period.

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short version - repub gov is going to close up all the disproportionate State grants that balt City has grown dependent on.

especially after mayor Rawlings-Blake keeps making open and public comments critical of him.


this does not end well for balt city but maybe it is what it needs to get its act together and learn how to budget a city. of course the property tax around 6% is already double every other county in maryland so they cant increase prop tax any higher or more tax payers will just move out.

they already reluctantly give big companies tax breaks. do they offer a 0% tax break to lure new companies in and hope for trickle down economics?

what company wants their headquarters in downtown balt when the mayor allows a pedo pastor to shut down the city for the sole purpose of "disrupting business as usual'?

what company wants to have such an unreliable environment? to put their employees in harms way?

when the charges are dropped, does Pandora need to not do business for a week and lose millions?

downtown balt has become an unreliable business center imo.

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[quote=over the mountain;1113865]It is even worse than that. Ive read a ton of articles lately on Balt City history, corruption, budget and economy. I do not vouch for the accuracy of my memory retention though.

Balt City contributes 15-20% of their budget to that 15k per student number. The rest comes from Md State and Federal grants.

The Natl avg for district contribution is around 40%.

Balt City secured some huge State and Federal grants through the 90's but the problem is these grants can be taken back or decreased at any time. Yet Balt City has grown dependent on the grants.

Democrat O'Malley earmarked something like 63 mil from the State's general operating budget to go to education for this year with Balt City receiving a lion share of approx 11 mil.

Problem - new republican gov Hogan was not bound by that 63 mil earmark from the States oper budget and pulled it back, as is his right.

Problem - it seems the balt city teachers union is a powerful group in long held democratic Balt City. In 2010 the teachers union secured a new deal in which teachers get huge raises if they meet certain requirements. raises to the tune of 15-20k per year. Well, certain teachers satisfied the requirements and now I assume make bank. disproportionate bank. The double edge sword is that its hard to criticize inner city school teachers or not appreciate them.

The school district when given money just lose account of it. i read they still keep their accounting books on paper. The balt City school district is currently facing an unprecedented 68 mil dollar deficit. they need to cut payroll, close down more schools and stuff more kids into already congested classrooms.

For some reason a huge grant to rebuild and remodel old schools in the district just disappeared as well. the money was to keep schools open and update but instead schools closed down during the time period.

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short version - repub gov is going to close up all the disproportionate State grants that balt City has grown dependent on.

especially after mayor Rawlings-Blake keeps making open and public comments critical of him.


this does not end well for balt city but maybe it is what it needs to get its act together and learn how to budget a city. of course the property tax around 6% is already double every other county in maryland so they cant increase prop tax any higher or more tax payers will just move out.

they already reluctantly give big companies tax breaks. do they offer a 0% tax break to lure new companies in and hope for trickle down economics?

what company wants their headquarters in downtown balt when the mayor allows a pedo pastor to shut down the city for the sole purpose of "disrupting business as usual'?

what company wants to have such an unreliable environment? to put their employees in harms way?

when the charges are dropped, does Pandora need to not do business for a week and lose millions?

downtown balt has become an unreliable business center imo.[/quote]

[url=http://eagnews.org/baltimore-teachers-took-96653-sick-personal-days-last-school-year/]Baltimore teachers took 96,653 sick, personal days last school year - EAGnews.org[/url]


So they have the ability to cash in sick/personal time as well? must be nice.

Public unions are scams. Police/Fire/Teachers etc...sucking down your tax dollars like a vacuum.

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[quote=Chico23231;1113867][url=http://eagnews.org/baltimore-teachers-took-96653-sick-personal-days-last-school-year/]Baltimore teachers took 96,653 sick, personal days last school year - EAGnews.org[/url]


So they have the ability to cash in sick/personal time as well? must be nice.

Public unions are scams. Police/Fire/Teachers etc...sucking down your tax dollars like a vacuum.[/quote]

My brothers friend is a little over 40 and he is a retired firefighter getting over 100k per year for the rest of his life. He started when he was 17 as a vol in training or something. somehow getting a double pension. whole family are retired fire fighters.

hard to argue guys who run into fires to save the public dont deserve public money though. but to be retired and paid over 100k for the rest of your life and to be able to go work and do another job .... is a dream.

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[quote=over the mountain;1113904]My brothers friend is a little over 40 and he is a retired firefighter getting over 100k per year for the rest of his life. He started when he was 17 as a vol in training or something. somehow getting a double pension. whole family are retired fire fighters.

hard to argue guys who run into fires to save the public dont deserve public money though. but to be retired and paid over 100k for the rest of your life and to be able to go work and do another job .... is a dream.[/quote]

he's robbing the tax payers. Sorry, but thats terrible. I know/knew a couple fire fighters, that job is a dream

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[quote=over the mountain;1113820]Hailgreen - i probably did a poor job of summarizing the article. here it is. a good read, seems to be well researched and vetted. i did leave out that in the 80s with the burbs super malls and what not change the shopping habits as well. before the canton crossing opening a few years ago with target and old navy, we could go to walmart in convington cove (near downtown) or drive to towson or white marsh to go big store shopping.

[url=http://qz.com/393128/white-flight-decimated-baltimore-businesses-long-before-rioters-showed-up/]White flight decimated Baltimore businesses long before rioters showed up – Quartz[/url][/quote]Sorry to hear about your situation. Hope you can find better accommodations, or dare I say, move to a nicer area without being accused of being racist.

Re: [url=http://qz.com/393128/white-flight-decimated-baltimore-businesses-long-before-rioters-showed-up/]White flight decimated Baltimore businesses long before rioters showed up – Quartz[/url]

FFS, the article is worse than what I summarized. The title describes its argument well: "White flight decimated Baltimore businesses long before rioters showed up" Yes white flight is a racist act, but the article acknowledges there were valid economic reasons for the middle class to move. And does this mean the people who stayed in Baltimore are incapable of working and making something of themselves? Oh and the "white ladies in white gloves" are apparently still supervillians with their ability to cause economic devastation by... leaving. The last three paragraphs in particular are pathetic apologia for the rioters.

[U]"For the first part of the 20th century, Baltimore built itself into a beacon of American industriousness and progress. But white Baltimore showed that it would rather tear the city apart than allow upwardly mobile African Americans to partake."[/U]

By leaving 25 years ago. Fiends!

[U]"The death of Freddie Gray was a terrible thing. The incident must be thoroughly investigated, and any parties determined to have acted outside the law must be punished to the furthest extent of it, regardless of whether they carry a badge. But we must also recognize police brutality and racial profiling as fruits of a larger (rotten) tree."[/U]

I thought the rotten tree was the city political elite, as you and others have detailed, and sadly seems to be the case in lots of places to varying degrees. But the article doesn't mention that at all. The article only cites white racism, the steel industry drying up, and housing markups? (Predatory pricing is an issue, but redlining is keeping minorities out, not exploiting them. And block busting is LOWERING property values for existing white homeowners making them more affordable for minorities. It does hurt resale value. But this happened back[U] in the 1970s and 1980[/U]s according to the article!). So.... guess the residents of Baltimore could do nothing for themselves since then? That's what this April 28, 2015 article implies.

[U]"Because when we watch these events unfold on television screens or Twitter feeds, and ask ourselves, “Christ, how did it get this bad?” we should already know the answer."[/U]

Rich white people leaving, the steel industry's decline, a housing market whose decline mainly affected people reselling homes. Nevermind all of that of that is from the 70s and 80s. Not the 1990s, not the 2000s, not the 2010s. Oh, and police brutality today. Any answer except what residents of Baltimore (white and black) did the past 25 years, I guess. Pathetic.

Again, take care, dude. And hope a good opportunity opens up somewhere for you and yours.

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I don't think he can leave. Pretty sure that makes him a racist......

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[quote=over the mountain;1113904]My brothers friend is a little over 40 and he is a retired firefighter getting over 100k per year for the rest of his life. He started when he was 17 as a vol in training or something. somehow getting a double pension. whole family are retired fire fighters.

hard to argue guys who run into fires to save the public dont deserve public money though. but to be retired and paid over 100k for the rest of your life and to be able to go work and do another job .... is a dream.[/quote]I asked a volunteer firefighter buddy of mine about this. (We are in North Carolina.) Basically he thought that 100k was a lot for a pension, but he could understand if the guy was a chief, or even "just" a captain of a large company(station) or higher, given wages are higher in say New York, compared to Raleigh. Retiring at 40 does sound awfully young to him.... Had to be unionized, he said. Great benefits and they don't cross train as much as non-unionized firemen do.

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[quote=HailGreen28;1113952]I asked a volunteer firefighter buddy of mine about this. (We are in North Carolina.) Basically he thought that 100k was a lot for a pension, but he could understand if the guy was a chief, or even "just" a captain of a large company(station) or higher, given wages are higher in say New York, compared to Raleigh. Retiring at 40 does sound awfully young to him.... Had to be unionized, he said. Great benefits and they don't cross train as much as non-unionized firemen do.[/quote]

yeah my brother said he started real young as a vol under 18 even, whole family of fire fighters. hes in his 40s, not 40, but i was shocked. earning a double pension thing to me i dont understand. the math doesnt work. maybe he is not retired bc he seems to go to the station a lot still. can you get pension and still work?

thanks for worrying about me but im good. i make good money. i lived on st charles street in the garden district of new orleans 2 years ago.

just made a poor decision when we picked this spot. bad block in a borderline part of town. we have the whole floor w cathedral ceilings and what not but ...... that fucking rat. i must find that fucking rat. half the time im at home im just moving things around, checking all the floor boards, checking all the traps. is driving me insane.

i can do flying cock roaches, lizards and mice but i cant do juvenile rats. they just dont know how to act in a house.

july 1st we are gone.

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My next door neighbor is an FF here in Collier County, Fl
Many if not most have another occupation on the side as it is to hard to make it on F-mans pay. They get pretty good medical and other bennies (county emps) but the county has been making noises about cutting bennies and retirement perks as a budget cutting move. It is prompting many including my NDN to start looking for another occupation........

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A seperate note. I am sitting in a pizza hut in Ellicott city. Near me are two tables full of people celebrating the end of a girls basketballcs team season. A lot of laughing happy people everyone singing happy birthday to one of the adults. Its a very happy scene.

Why do I bring it up? You may have guessed. Its a group of 40 people, blacks whites Indians and they all are in harmony. Just makes me sad that so much strife exists over race.

Sent from my S6 Edge

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[quote=over the mountain;1113967]yeah my brother said he started real young as a vol under 18 even, whole family of fire fighters. hes in his 40s, not 40, but i was shocked. earning a double pension thing to me i dont understand. the math doesnt work. maybe he is not retired bc he seems to go to the station a lot still. can you get pension and still work?
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Just some info ,here in Maryland the rules on FF are broken down to full time and volunteer and all so by the county you work in /live in .A very good friend of mine was a volunteer for over 30 years and now gets a small pension and the closest union Fire department I know of is in DC ,not saying there aren't any in MD I just don't know of them .Another fact is some guys work two jobs ,full time at one place and as a volunteer at another .You are right ,I admit that these still either working or not all still hang at the station .

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1113969]A seperate note. I am sitting in a pizza hut in Ellicott city. Near me are two tables full of people celebrating the end of a girls basketballcs team season. A lot of laughing happy people everyone singing happy birthday to one of the adults. Its a very happy scene.

Why do I bring it up? You may have guessed. Its a group of 40 people, blacks whites Indians and they all are in harmony. Just makes me sad that so much strife exists over race.

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]
Racist MF..r
African Americans.......Native Americans......(or possibly Indian Americans?)
and other asundry...xxxxxxxx/Americans

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[quote=over the mountain;1113967]July 1st we are gone.[/quote]good deal. Glad to hear it.

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First there was Ferguson, then NYC, now Baltimore. You would think we would learn from those. Guess not?!

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[url=http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83669019/]The Baltimore Sun[/url]

I think its finally time to admit the Mayor, PD, and the entire administration has loss control of the city.

My question is why are so many folks dying up there?

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[quote=over the mountain;1113967]yeah my brother said he started real young as a vol under 18 even, whole family of fire fighters. [B] hes in his 40s, not 40, but i was shocked. earning a double pension thing to me i dont understand. the math doesnt work[/B]. maybe he is not retired bc he seems to go to the station a lot still. can you get pension and still work?

thanks for worrying about me but im good. i make good money. i lived on st charles street in the garden district of new orleans 2 years ago.

just made a poor decision when we picked this spot. bad block in a borderline part of town. we have the whole floor w cathedral ceilings and what not but ...... that fucking rat. i must find that fucking rat. half the time im at home im just moving things around, checking all the floor boards, checking all the traps. is driving me insane.

i can do flying cock roaches, lizards and mice but i cant do juvenile rats. they just dont know how to act in a house.

july 1st we are gone.[/quote]


Where I used to live in Southern California I knew quite a few fireman and County Sheriffs. At the time all of them said their pension was based on an
average of their 3 highest paying years. Cashed out vacation and sick time at the end of employment counted toward that amount and they earned 10 sick days, plus holidays and vacation was 2 weeks at a year, 3 weeks at 5 years and 4 weeks at 10 years. You could retire at 50% pay after 20 years, 2/3rds at 25 years and 75% at 30 years. You could use the sick days anyway you wanted. As you can see a person who rarely called in sick and just took off holidays and a week's vacation a year could have a huge chunk of money
to spike his last year's pay in unused sick and vacation days. Combine that with working a lot of overtime any two other years and you can game the system and actually get more money for life a year in retirement than you did if just working a 40 hour week.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1114029][url=http://touch.baltimoresun.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-83669019/]The Baltimore Sun[/url]

I think its finally time to admit the Mayor, PD, and the entire administration has loss control of the city.

My question is why are so many folks dying up there?[/QUOTE]

Drugs, easy availability of illegal firearms, a police force under siege, corrupt local officials, destruction of the local middle class ...

It goes deep and requires hard honest answers/conversations from/between the police and African-American community, the African-American and white community, and all holding the powers that be accountable for the systemic corruption in all departments/divisions of the City's government.

In other words, it's going to continue to get worse.

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As you well know, these are not unique problems, but are rather commonplace in many large cities in this country. One event away from a Bmore repeat.
BUT, while I agree with J about the "Honest" conversations that need to held. I would be......charitable if I said, that level of honesty does not exist in our leadership nor does anybody want to hear it at this time.....or in the foreseeable future.

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[quote=Hog1;1114038]As you well know, these are not unique problems, but are rather commonplace in many large cities in this country. One event away from a Bmore repeat.
BUT, while I agree with J about the "Honest" conversations that need to held. I would be......charitable if I said, that level of honesty does not exist in our leadership nor does anybody want to hear it at this time.....or in the foreseeable future.[/quote]Maybe we need to remember the names of these victims, 43 known in May, as much as we remember the name Freddie Gray. Make a big deal about this. It's not everyone that's shooting and looting, it sounds like criminals. (I wonder how many cases are self-defense.) Thought black lives mattered, even when it's criminals not cops doing the killing.

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-police-union-seeks-department-emails-communications-191253504.html]Baltimore seeks more federal aid in face of murder surge[/url]


Baltimore ... I dont think you are going to get all the special Federal and State grants and aides you have become dependent on. Fed govt is tightening up. The Mayor has publicly criticized the new Md Gov Hogan who already has pulled back earmarked State funding. He did give balt something like 20 mil from the states rainy day fund.

Now the Police Union wants to investigate the chain of command during the riots. im guessing to hit back at the mayor and State Atty office. Showing that the officers were put out to serve as nothing more than pinattas and target practice for 13 year old w rocks. then the union can claim a boat load more in workers comp and early pensions for all the officers that dont want to return to the force anyway. might as well get paid going out the door and take er easy for year or so on the balt city dime. at this point i dont blame them.

Mosby now doesnt want anything disclosed to the media to not taint the trial or perceptions ..... of course she requested the gag order right after she gave her one sided red meat "press conference" .....

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[url=http://libertynews.com/2015/05/marilyn-mosby-claims-hacker-favorited-anti-cop-anti-white-tweets-from-her-personal-twitter-acct/]Marilyn Mosby Claims Hacker ‘Favorited’ Anti-Cop & Anti-White Tweets From Her Personal Twitter Acct. | LibertyNEWS.com[/url]

she is also going to be a ring leader for the circus coming to town. true story.

get your face and name out there by any means necessary.

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some teenagers just randomly decided to throw rocks at my lady and our 3 year old daughter on saturday. when i confronted them they ran to the housing project Perkins Homes.

so yeaaaaahhhhh .... go baltimore!!!

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[URL="http://www.wbaltv.com/news/documentary-captures-baltimores-pain-inspires-hope/33290082"]Documentary captures Baltimore's pain, inspires hope[/URL]

Need more stories about these killings, and work on preventing them. And no I am not saying just play the blame game towards black residents, the way the blame game has in fact been played against police and whites in general. Work on solutions, like bringing in businesses (jobs) and rec centers (that actually provide alternatives to gangs), and I'm sure many other initiatives I don't know off the top of my head.

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Maryland governor Larry Hogan approved plans to build the Purple Line, a $168 million train line that spans 16 miles from Bethesda to New Carrollton.

He also announced the killing of a project for the Red Line, which would connect east and west Baltimore and cost over $2 billion.

Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake wasn’t very happy when she heard about Hogan’s plans to discontinue the Red Line project.

[url=http://baltimore.suntimes.com/bal-news/7/101/147021/larry-hogan-approves-purple-line-baltimore-pissed/]Larry Hogan approves Purple Line, Baltimore is pissed | Baltimore Sun Times[/url]

So it begins.

New Republican governor is cutting and diverting funds for Baltimore City any chance he gets. First education, now transportation.

Not sure how I feel about this. Balt City disproportionately received State and Federal aid to stay afloat and I think they have taken all those life lines for granted and squandered it with corruption and incompetence.

But is Gov Hogan just going to let all of Baltimore City go down the drain? Seems like it.

His tense relationship with mayor SRB is not good. It is only going to gt worse bc SRB keeps making negative public comments about him.

News flash Stephanie - like everyone else with a boss - shit rolls down hill. Learn to work with the guy's staff, find one or two sympathetic ears and learn to polish up your open criticisms or dont make them public in the first place.

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Former Baltimore cop blows the whistle.

[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/former-baltimore-police-officer-michael-a-wood-jr-publicly-blows-the-whistle-on-police-corruption-10346703.html]Former Baltimore Police Officer Michael A Wood Jr publicly blows the whistle on police corruption - Americas - World - The Independent[/url]


[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/ByxHaz9.jpg[/IMG]

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Baltimore City Police Commissioner Batts "replaced."

[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bs-md-ci-batts-fired-20150708-story.html]Mayor replaces Police Commissioner Batts - Baltimore Sun[/url]

Also:

[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-fop-report-20150708-story.html]FOP releases findings from 'after action review' of Baltimore police riot response - Baltimore Sun[/url]

and the FOP's report:
[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bal-document-baltimore-fops-afteraction-review-20150708-htmlstory.html]Document: Baltimore FOP's After-Action Review - Baltimore Sun[/url]

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[url=http://news.yahoo.com/riot-hit-baltimore-plans-spend-136-million-recreation-155234664.html]Riot-hit Baltimore plans to spend $136 million on recreation centers[/url]

in 2011 mayor SRB commission suggested consolidating the city rec centers to save some money.

now they are going to sell 4 parking garages to open more rec centers ... bc they think the disgruntled middle and high schoolers who did "the purge" dont have enough positive outlets.

the city rec centers are good ideas imo. the patterson park pool is awesome at $3 per. there is also a small pool a block away near perkins holmes which seems to be closed a lot more than open. i understand this is not meant as a end-all solution but i dont think it will have any effect at all. the kids will just leave the pool area and throw rocks at my 3 yr old daughter anyway. i dont think the lack of positive options was what made them throw rocks at a 3 yr old. i think their sense of entitlement, acting out bc they have depressiona nd anger all around them and the mentality of "fuck white people" was the main cause.

idk .. the idea of a one time sale of parking garages that I assume generates revenue to fund more rec centers after a commission found they should be closing some rec centers seems ...... reactionary and short sighted. rob 2016 and beyond to pay for 2015.

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I heard from a very informed person that the Freddie gray trial is going to be moved to Montgomery County. This is not reported yet.

Not sure why Howard or AA were looked over .... Balt County was probably too close/tainted pool.

I know Mont Co ASA John McCarthy pretty well. He is a legit ASA unlike Gansler who he replaced and Mosby who has zero experience. He worked his way up putting in the work.

If this does go to MoCo i feel bad for McCarthy bc (1) i dont think he can refuse to prosecute even though i imagine he would refuse if he could; (2) he will be blamed when the officers are found guilty of lesser included charges or not guilty on all charges.

if true, rookie know-nothing Mosby pretty much handed one of the best ASA in MD a steaming pile of shit to deal with.

Mosby should be forced to be first chair. if she is allowed to escape responsibility for this, i am going to be livid.
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[url=http://www.scribd.com/doc/269461822/Freddie-Gray-Case-Change-of-Venue-Motion-by-Officers#scribd]Freddie Gray Case: Change of Venue Motion by Officers[/url]

^^ copy of the actual motion to change venue. i read half of it. looks to be strongly written.

Joe you might want to read and save in one of your sample pleadings/motions folders.

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OTM , are you still in Baltimore ,I know you were talking about getting out.

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I moved out July 31st. I loaded up the moving truck over a few days and was surprised that no one cut my pad lock at night. I only had one incident where a couple of street guys tried to kinda half ass strong arm me. A little guy came up to me asking me if I knew where he could cash a check. theres a zillion cash checking and liquor stores around so i knew it was just a way for him to get close and start a fake conversation. I tried to close and lock the truck up but he leaned his body inside and I thought it was going to get physical as we were almost bodying each other up. i kept a screw driver in my right pocket for this very reason. he then called over a big guy who looked at me and looked at the inside of the truck full of clothes and crap and didnt want to bother with it.

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[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-freddie-gray-hearing-20150902-story.html]Judge orders officers charged in Freddie Gray case to be tried separately - Baltimore Sun[/url]

Judge Williams (former Balt City DA):

1. Denied - Def motion to dismiss for prosecutorial misconduct from Mosby's press conf stating charges (no way that was going to fly, perhaps done to buttress the next Def motion - recuse Mosbys office)

2. Denied - Def motion to recuse Mosby (Mosby is not the actual DA doing the trial or motions work. You would want her to do the actual court room work, she sucks. Im guessing this was to recuse the entire Balt City prosecutors office)

3. Granted - Def motion bifurcate and try the 6 defs separately. This is a huge win for the defense. No way they were going to win the motion to dismiss on statements mosby made. why they didnt attack the charging document/indictment, I dont know.


September 10 is the oral argument on motion to transfer venue. Im actually scheduled for depos downtown so im going to either postpone and avoid the crowds/rioters blocking traffic or see if i can get in the courtroom to listen if my depo times allow.

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Wilson said he knew Gray personally. He clutched a white cardboard sign that read, "I am here for Justice for Mr. Gray."


He said he's less concerned about whether the officers will be tried separately, but said he is worried about a later motions hearing to decide whether the case should be moved to another jurisdiction. Wilson feels that because Gray's arrest occurred in Baltimore, it should be tried here.

"It didn't happen anywhere else. It's going to cause an uproar," if it's moved outside the city, he said.
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maybe i should postpone. ill be right next to the federal courthouse and have a straight shot out of the city and onto 395 to 95 but ... idk.

why would anyone want to do business in Balt City if you have to worry about rioters randomly blocking traffic?

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[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/editorial/bs-ed-gray-settlement-20150908-story.html]Freddie Gray settlement - Baltimore Sun[/url]

Why would the mayor release this info 2 days before the motion hearing on change of venue?

it clearly strengthens the defense argument that they cannot get a fair trial in the city.

answer - she knows the trial is going to be transferred so she is trying to prevent a riot on the 10th. im guessing the judge wont announce his decision on the 10th from the bench like he did on the earlier motions.

he will "take it under advisement" then release a written order a few days or weeks later granting the transfer. riots still ensue but not to the volatile degree that it would have been if it was announced on the 10th when protesters were standing by to turn into opportunistic rioters. this will all play out downtown now as well since the courthouse is the epi center and not sandtown/mondawin neighborhood.

ive been told Mo Co.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/09/opinions/coates-freddie-gray-settlement-baltimore/index.html]Freddie Gray settlement hurts the prosecution - CNN.com[/url]

we will see how today goes .. rioting at 4
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[url=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-board-of-estimates-20150909-story.html]Hearing on Freddie Gray trial location to play out amid tensions - Baltimore Sun[/url]

mosby's political friend atty just got himself 1/3 of that 6.4 million ...

dangit, if only i was in this inner circle of corruption and ineptness!

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trial staying in baltimore. my "source' was wrong.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/11/us/baltimore-mayor-rawlings-blake/index.html]Baltimore Mayor Rawlings-Blake won't seek re-election - CNN.com[/url]

of course not, her ass would get kicked.

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that just opens the door for criminally indicted ex-mayor Sheila Dixon.

people are shocked it wasnt transferred.

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Uh-Oh

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The mis-trial announced an hour ago.

The courthouse is literally across the street from where I work. Traffic looks normal, no crowds, no sirens. Right now, everything looks perfectly normal except for the three local news helicopters hovering over the courthouse.

I believe (and hope) that the scenes from Spring will not be replayed. The riots hurt Baltimore in so many ways. Really, nothing good came of them for anyone. Also, because the defendants are being tried separately, I think it diffuses the impact of any one of the trials.

Right now, just crossing my fingers and hoping everyone remains calm.