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[quote=30gut;1141149]Yeah, I guess from our fan vantage point with the waiting and all that...but as a fan of the draft, I like it when a GM is creative with get more plate appearances.

It would be a very shrewd move to pull off a trade down in this draft because of the depth. Hopefully someone team will be chasing after a QB or something.[/quote]

BINGO .... if Lynch is still available at #21 the Redskins should get some good offers 2, 3, maybe 4 high picks

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141151]BINGO .... if Lynch is still available at #21 the Redskins should get some good offers 2, 3, maybe 4 high picks[/quote]

At the end of the day whatever Scott decides to do, I'm on board with. After the promising results from last years draft, how could I not be. No matter what happens, I see our defense being way better and deeper than last years.

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[quote=30gut;1141148]Right now Mack is probably my favorite CB but admittedly I haven't spent as much time with the other CBs. I've read about them, just haven't watched them yet.

I think we talked about edge rushers and Floyd in another thread? If a edge rusher is BPA at 21 or any other pick, I'm all for it. My actual hand to fire answer to Chico? question who would you pick was Emmanuel Ogbah. Nothing against Floyd, just really like Manny O. I know Floyd's production numbers aren't up there compared to other edge rushers because he wasn't always an edge rusher at Georgia. His measurable are excellent but to my eye he seems like a projection as edge rusher that needs to bulk up a lil.

I used to really like Darron Lee but the more I watched the more I wondered about his fit in this defense. I have yet to see Lee have to shed a block, and this defense he'll be asked to stack and shed. Not saying that he can't do it. Only that I haven't seen him do it on film because both the scheme and the DL surrounding talent kept him proctected. I would like Lee more in 43 or weakside ILB in a 2-gap 34. But, his range and ability to play sideline to sideline is outstanding.

If you have positional top 5(ish) ranking I would be curious to see them

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I haven't researched Ogbah much. I like Floyds body composition. Tall and lean, he can add bulk if needed. I like speed guys, he would compliment Kerrigan well.

Lee, sideline to sideline, is exactly why I like him, speed, we haven't had much of that at LB recently.

I don't have a complete list like that. There are 10-15 guys I like that might be available at 21.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1141156]I haven't researched Ogbah much.[/quote][url]http://www.thewarpath.net/nfl-draft-central/63611-2016-cbs-nfldraftscout-big-board-4.html#post1141043[/url]

Here's my position rankings:

QB-Paxton Lynch, Jared Goff, Conor Cook, Carson Wentz, Brandon Allen

WR-Josh Doctsun, Corey Coleman, Sterling Shephard, Tyler Boyd, Laquan Treadwell

CB-Jalen Ramsey, Mackenzie Alexander, Vernon Hargreaves, Willism Jackson, Kendall Fuller ? (40), Eli Apple

S-Jalen Ramsey, KJ Dillon, Karl Joseph (40 ?), TJ Green, Sean Davis, Darian Thompson (40 ?)

Edge-Emmanuel Ogbah, Shaq Lawson, Joey Bosa, Leonard Floyd, Shilique Calhoun

LB-Miles Jack, Darron Lee, Reggie Ragland, Kamalei Correa, Josh Perry, Joe Schobert, BJ Goodson

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I'm an FSU fan so I love Ramsey. Being out here in California I've seen Jack a lot. Dude is an awesome football player. Those 2 are the best 2 players in the draft to me.

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it's not a drive by jab, it's a discussion that's already been had where we found out your version of BPA doesn't match anyone else's, since you also include players on your team, which indirectly means you're also drafting need, while calling it BPA, which is a misnomer and confusing. I just don't really feel like rehashing this over 3+ days again when it's been covered.

scot is not a strict bpa guy, otherwise we would have taken a D linemen last year, but he looked ahead and saw this year's class and felt he could get better value (imo). I don't think our OG was very far behind him, but we signed like 5 DLinemen in FA and had a tragically terrible RT the previous year. so it's really hard to say need didn't play a (big) part. no GM is going to go to a post draft interview and say "yeah, our guy wasn't the best player on the board, but we needed a right tackle, so..." just imagine the sh&t show that would bring.

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Was looking at all the cornerbacks that might be around at #21 tonight, and I can't decide what player I like best. I wouldn't have a problem with Kendall Fuller, MacKenzie Alexander, Eli Apple, or William Jackson III.

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In a CBS Sports poll of NFL personnel (from scouts to general managers), Ohio State QB Cardale Jones ranked as the most underrated player in the draft.

Jones received five votes as most underrated, which tied with Maryland DE/OLB Yannick Ngakoue. One scout said of the 6-foot-5, 253-pound Jones, "If the plan is to develop the young quarterback rather than play him immediately, anyway, why not take the bigger, stronger athlete and let your coaches unlock his potential?" As CBS Sports draft analyst Rob Rang wrote, Jones "wowed the 130+ NFL personnel who attended Ohio State's [P]ro [D]ay, showing off the velocity which earned him the nickname "12 Gauge" as well as surprising touch and accuracy." Jones made just seven starts in college and his lack of experience will prevent him from serving as a true plug-and-play option, but there's momentum behind him being drafted as high as the second round.


Source: CBS Sports

We are all ok with Cardale Jones in the 3rd round?

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[quote=Chico23231;1141168]In a CBS Sports poll of NFL personnel (from scouts to general managers), Ohio State QB Cardale Jones ranked as the most underrated player in the draft.

Jones received five votes as most underrated, which tied with Maryland DE/OLB Yannick Ngakoue. One scout said of the 6-foot-5, 253-pound Jones, "If the plan is to develop the young quarterback rather than play him immediately, anyway, why not take the bigger, stronger athlete and let your coaches unlock his potential?" As CBS Sports draft analyst Rob Rang wrote, Jones "wowed the 130+ NFL personnel who attended Ohio State's [P]ro [D]ay, showing off the velocity which earned him the nickname "12 Gauge" as well as surprising touch and accuracy." Jones made just seven starts in college and his lack of experience will prevent him from serving as a true plug-and-play option, but there's momentum behind him being drafted as high as the second round.


Source: CBS Sports

We are all ok with Cardale Jones in the 3rd round?[/quote]

We just signed Colt to a 3 year deal and we typically only keep 2 qbs active. Don't really think there is room for him. You don't see 3rd round picks on practice squads or inactive all 16 games. You need that player contributing. Don't see us taking a QB unless its late or UDA and putting him on PS.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1141183]We just signed Colt to a 3 year deal and we typically only keep 2 qbs active. Don't really think there is room for him. You don't see 3rd round picks on practice squads or inactive all 16 games. You need that player contributing. Don't see us taking a QB unless its late or UDA and putting him on PS.[/quote]

I agree a third round pick is to high. However, if they add picks and could get Jones in the 4th round it could be a good investment. He could have 2 or 3 years to develop, then might be a valuable asset... just like KC

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No farging way do we spend a draft pick on a QB.
For what our needs are, we grab an UDFA or two.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141184]I agree a third round pick is to high. However, if they add picks and could get Jones in the 4th round it could be a good investment. He could have 2 or 3 years to develop, then might be a valuable asset... just like KC[/quote]

I think the 4th would be ideal for Jones. We know McC spent time with him at the combine. If we moved backed and get some picks, I don't think McC would hesitate

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141184]I agree a third round pick is to high. However, if they add picks and could get Jones in the 4th round it could be a good investment. He could have 2 or 3 years to develop, then might be a valuable asset... just like KC[/quote]

I think he'll go in the 2nd round. He could go to a place like Dallas and learn from Romo for a couple seasons.

If we had extra picks, yeah, you can take fliers on people you normally wouldn't. Should be a fun draft.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1141168]Source: CBS Sports

We are all ok with Cardale Jones in the 3rd round?[/QUOTE]Nah, to high for my taste. Great arm talent, but he's a long term project and imho he doesn't seem like a good fight for a precision WCO. Seem more like a fit for a Coryell downfield offense.

I would rather Brandon Allen.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:15002208]Razorbacks shine during Pro Day drills - ESPN Video[/url]



[B][I] Quarterback Brandon Allen looked sharp and accurate during a passing workout, which lasted almost 30 minutes. Allen interviewed with the Detroit Lions and Pittsburgh Steelers the past two days and last week worked out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. [/I][/B]
Read more at [url=http://walterfootball.com/proday.php#F7vo9LMTcLeZhlQC.99]2016 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com[/url]

Heck, I would rather Jacoby Brissett then Jones.

Jacoby Brissett pro-day:

[url]https://au.sports.yahoo.com/nfl/video/watch/31169938/best-of-nc-state-quarterback-jacoby-brissetts-pro-day/[/url]

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if he makes it to the 4th then the value proposition changes quite a bit... in the 2nd or 3rd, i don't think i'd do it. it's also quite a lot to ask for a staff to take someone in the 2nd and then have him not contribute for 2-3 years. that staff might be gone by the time he's ready to go. not the best idea if you want to stay employed in a year to year league.

PFF scouting report: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
 

[url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/23/draft-pff-scouting-report-andrew-billings-dl-baylor/[/url]

[B]Position fit:[/B]

Nose tackle, either in a 3-4 or a 4-3.

[B]Stats to know:[/B]

Ranked 19th in the nation against the run in 2014 and fifth in 2015. Played 765 snaps in 2015, second-most among nose tackles.

Pro day catch up
 

2016 Pro Day Notes: Wednesday, March 23, 6:40 p.m.
By Tony Pauline, [url=http://draftinsider.net/]Draft Insider[/url]


image: [url]http://walterfootball.com/college/USC_logo.gif[/url]

USC [B][U]Su'a Cravens[/U][/B] ProDay: Safety or LB
[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/0ap3000000647148/Ruiz-Su-a-Cravens-would-like-to-play-safety-in-the-NFL]Omar Ruiz: USC linebacker Su'a Cravens would like to play safety in the NFL - NFL Videos[/url]

The headliner at USC pro day did not disappoint.

Su'a Cravens weighed in at 220 pounds and ran an official 40 time of 4.61, though several teams clocked him at 4.55 an 4.54.
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He did both linebacker and defensive back drills and as told to me he looked "Fantastic; he caught everything but a cold."

I'm told while Cravens can get his weight up to 240 if necessary, but teams like him where he's currently. And as of late, most teams have him graded as a safety; not outside linebacker. Over the past two days, Cravens has met with the New England Patriots, Detroit Lions, Cleveland Browns and San Diego Chargers. And as expressed to me "there is scary interest from the Carolina Panthers" in Cravens.
Read more at [url=http://walterfootball.com/proday.php#HmHGfbekxj26rpgx.99]2016 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com[/url]

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Missouri
Linebacker [B][U]Kentrell Brothers[/U][/B] significantly improved several of his Combine marks today. His 40 timed as fast as 4.72 (4.89 at the Combine) and Brothers hit 31.5 inches in the vertical jump (28.5 inches at Combine). He was one pound lighter, weighing in at 244.
Read more at [url=http://walterfootball.com/proday.php#HmHGfbekxj26rpgx.99]2016 NFL Pro Day Results: WalterFootball.com[/url]

Re: PFF scouting report: Andrew Billings, DT, Baylor
 

[quote=30gut;1141229][url]https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2016/03/23/draft-pff-scouting-report-andrew-billings-dl-baylor/[/url]

[B]Position fit:[/B]

Nose tackle, either in a 3-4 or a 4-3.

[B]Stats to know:[/B]

Ranked 19th in the nation against the run in 2014 and fifth in 2015. Played 765 snaps in 2015, second-most among nose tackles.[/quote]

I like the part of the scouting report about driving the center back off the snap.

We've learned first hand over the past two years that the center being pushed into the QB's lap generally screws everything up.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1141234]I like the part of the scouting report about driving the center back off the snap.

We've learned first hand over the past two years that the center being pushed into the QB's lap generally screws everything up.[/quote]

remember cory raymer? man he was awful.