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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1149734]Cousins did something big today that hopefully will boost his confidence and get him moving towards a consistent good season. He beat the NY GIANTS on the road as an underdog. Not only did he get his first win on the road against NY but also his first win on the road against a winning team.

We will see if Cousins play carries over to Sunday against Cleveland, but the team can take this as another example of never being out of the game .

Heart won today as much as talent. I thought we got the running game working well today. Loved how the last drive we ran the ball the whole way down the field. Gruden and Mcvay showed a little distrust in Cousins by not letting him throw on 3rd and 4 before we kicked the game winning field goal.[/quote]

I still want to see more Robert Kelley (3-4 runs a game is not enough), he needs to see the field more

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I didn't know JNO was such a team player, that dude loves his teammates.

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How good was Trent's block on the Crowder TD? taking out two players in one fell swoop.

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[QUOTE=Swarley;1149735]Gruden did say that the players were lobbying to let them run it again even though the coaches wanted to throw. I really don't think there was any sort of distrust at that point.[/QUOTE]



Trust might have swayed his decision to let the players decide the call there. He had to be thinking about the pick in the endzone last week. We all were.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1149737]I didn't know JNO was such a team player, that dude loves his teammates.[/quote]

Yeah, how can you not love the guy. Blackmon is going to be key playing FS. After watching the last two weeks I've wondered how much Dhall was kinda hurting us. Blackmon played well today, as he did all year last year once he got plucked off the street.

I wouldn't want to pull a healthy Hall off the field as he is still talented, but it Probably a good bet he's unfortunately done for the year and possibly his career.

Need more Cravens.

Rob Kelly needs better cleats. He may have scored on his last fall.

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[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;1149741]Yeah, how can you not love the guy. Blackmon is going to be key playing FS. After watching the last two weeks I've wondered how much Dhall was kinda hurting us. Blackmon played well today, as he did all year last year once he got plucked off the street.

I wouldn't want to pull a healthy Hall off the field as he is still talented, but it Probably a good bet he's unfortunately done for the year and possibly his career.

Need more Cravens.

Rob Kelly needs better cleats. He may have scored on his last fall.[/QUOTE]
I agree. Need more sua for sure

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[quote=punch it in;1149733]Mr Peanut. Hahahahaha.
That is the ugliest shirt ive ever seen in my life and he looks like an idiot. Do these guys have mirrors in the locker rooms? What makes athletes dress like this?[/quote]

it's a Black thing, to purposely look as bad as possible its deemed cool by your peers and media has to approve of it.

that first punt turnover was BS, pretty sure the kicking team isn't allowed to grab a player and throw him into the ball.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1149640]So the Giants go and buy themselves a defense, and we drop 400+ yards on them. I was just thinking that.[/quote]

Free agency at its best. This is why I never believed in it, ever. You can buy players but not chemistry. Glad we have a GM that doesnt buy into it either.

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[quote=Swarley;1149738]How good was Trent's block on the Crowder TD? taking out two players in one fell swoop.[/quote]

dead nasty, he's an animal!

i wouldn't have caught it if not for the replay.

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[quote=Zerohero;1149743]it's a Black thing, to purposely look as bad as possible its deemed cool by your peers and media has to approve of it.

that first punt turnover was BS, pretty sure the kicking team isn't allowed to grab a player and throw him into the ball.[/quote]

it's not a black thing...

it's just a modern phase.

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[quote=los panda;1149746]it's not a black thing...

it's just a modern phase.[/quote]

yeah black culture is the mainstream phase right now. do you equate Black as a negative? is that why you ...?

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[quote=HTTR;1149727]

Watch for Cravens going to S sooner than planned.

Hail yes!!![/quote]

Gotta be honest. Very unlikely Cravens moves to Safety. League is evolving and Cravens will be in the starting lineup as WSB before the Bye.

We will be lucky to have him as a LB for 10 years. Could be the next Urlacher.

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[quote=Bucket;1149748]Gotta be honest. Very unlikely Cravens moves to Safety. League is evolving and Cravens will be in the starting lineup as WSB before the Bye.

We will be lucky to have him as a LB for 10 years. Could be the next Urlacher.[/quote]

We need to settle down a bit.
Lets let him develop before we put him in the ring of honor.

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[quote=jamf;1149749]We need to settle down a bit.
Lets let him develop before we put him in the ring of honor.[/quote]

Sorry, that was worded incorrectly on my part. He carries the same skill set as Brian Urlacher and comes in at a similar size. Could play a similar role for us if you plays to his potential.

Also, an interesting tidbit from an interview from Blackmon after the game.

"Joe B did GJ of letting us be aggressive at the end We have so many athletes, just let us play" -Blackmon

Interesting comment like I said.

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Obviously the players are frustrated with Joe Barry. Baker was caught screaming at him after one of the Giants td's. And now you hear Blackmon's comments.

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Fire Joe Barry

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[quote=Bucket;1149750]Sorry, that was worded incorrectly on my part. He carries the same skill set as Brian Urlacher and comes in at a similar size. Could play a similar role for us if you plays to his potential.

Also, an interesting tidbit from an interview from Blackmon after the game.

[B]"Joe B did GJ of letting us be aggressive at the end We have so many athletes, just let us play" -Blackmon[/B]

Interesting comment like I said.[/quote]

I thought the whole idea of going to the one-gap system on the DL was to allow the players to be more aggressive. I'm sure some Redskins coach said that.

I just hope that Barry's eyes have been opened to what the defense can become if he is not too conservative.

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Happy effing Monday all. Everyone else have a big unexplainable smile on their face today? I cannot wait to get out the door and look and listen to all these Giants fans today. HTTR!

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[quote=punch it in;1149756]Happy effing Monday all. Everyone else have a big unexplainable smile on their face today? I cannot wait to get out the door and look and listen to all these Giants fans today. HTTR![/quote]

DO NOT let them get away with claiming that the officials took the game away from them. We beat their asses and that is that. Rub it in good.

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[QUOTE=KI Skins Fan;1149758]DO NOT let them get away with claiming that the officials took the game away from them. We beat their asses and that is that. Rub it in good.[/QUOTE]



We got robbed too. Plus made our own mistakes. Shoulda killed em! Httr!

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They made the big mistakes in the game, we have been pretty good at doing that first 2 weeks. That is why the Patriots are so good, they never hurt themselves. However, we need way more then 15 points from 6 trips to the redzone.

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[QUOTE=Evilgrin;1149766]They made the big mistakes in the game, we have been pretty good at doing that first 2 weeks. That is why the Patriots are so good, they never hurt themselves. However, we need way more then 15 points from 6 trips to the redzone.[/QUOTE]



The most glaring mistake in the game was us not coming away with any points at the end of the half. We should have had about 25 seconds left with a first and goal at the five. Plenty of time to take three shots into the endzone and than kick the fg. 7 there and the game is over when we kick our last fg.
As for the penalties- the Giants may have been called for more, but the bad calls against us were just brutal. Probably more costly.
The non interception was an absolute joke too.
Id say we shot and were shot in the foot even more than the G-girls.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1149700]This is better

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For all of the Cousins haters when he threw a Redzone pick last week, Eli threw one yesterday. It happens to every QB. I am firmly convinced that Eli can be rattled, and I think that even though the Skins didn't get many sacks, they got to Eli yesterday. I think the recipe for our Defense all year will be turnovers, because I'm not sure they are good enough to really stop a lot of teams.

Also, Kirk, Sean and Gruden have to figure out the Redzone issues. This lack of TD thing is bothering me when they get close.

Great win, but I think I lost a couple of years off my life watching that game yesterday. LOL

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A couple of superbowl rings will sort of lessen the pain of a redzone pick....

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[quote=Bucket;1149750]Sorry, that was worded incorrectly on my part. He carries the same skill set as Brian Urlacher and comes in at a similar size. Could play a similar role for us if you plays to his potential.

Also, an interesting tidbit from an interview from Blackmon after the game.

"Joe B did GJ of letting us be aggressive at the end We have so many athletes, just let us play" -Blackmon

Interesting comment like I said.[/quote]

That being said, athletes should be able to stop a 3rd and 14 in a zone defense. Thru 3 games that's not the case. Teams convert them with such ease. Barry literally has to blitz. A lot of that is our lack of pass rush though too. Kerrigan and Smith really need to pick it up.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1149779]That being said, athletes should be able to stop a 3rd and 14 in a zone defense. Thru 3 games that's not the case. Teams convert them with such ease. Barry literally has to blitz. A lot of that is our lack of pass rush though too. Kerrigan and Smith really need to pick it up.[/quote]

The 3rd and longs being converted with such ease is parhetic. We are going to have to be able to turn offenses over a few times a week, otherwise we have no ability to stop anyone.

Barry obviously doesn't like blitzing and loves playing soft coverage. He's either stupid or hard headed. I have no idea why he's an NFL DC. Loved it when Baker gave him an ear full.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1149786]The 3rd and longs being converted with such ease is parhetic. We are going to have to be able to turn offenses over a few times a week, otherwise we have no ability to stop anyone.

Barry obviously doesn't like blitzing and loves playing soft coverage. He's either stupid or hard headed. I have no idea why he's an NFL DC. Loved it when Baker gave him an ear full.[/quote]

Hopefully its hard headed. You can fix that. You can't fix stupid. But by now it should be pretty obviously that a soft zone defense in 3rd downs doesn't work with our current players.

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heard D Hall is done for the year with torn ACL. Been a good player for us...this could be it for him.

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[quote=Chico23231;1149790]heard D Hall is done for the year with torn ACL. Been a good player for us...this could be it for him.[/quote]

is it the same acl he previously tore?

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I looked for an article where Barry said he doesnt have the personnel to blitz but didnt find it. I did find this article from December last year talking about Barry's tendency to rush 4 and drop back in coverage. Baker wasnt happy with the up front scheme last year either.

“We’ve got to figure out something different scheme-wise to create more pressures,” Baker said. “That’s what’s happening in the games, but we did a good job defensively. They didn’t have any big plays. We’ve just got to keep them out of the end zone on sudden-change opportunities.”
“As a defensive lineman, when you blitz a lot, that means you have to move up out of your gap, and hopefully someone else comes free,” Baker said. “I’d rather just play man-on-man, let us get our man in front of us and play ball. We don’t have to blitz to get pressure.”
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-are-no-longer-so-blitz-happy-and-now-theyre-a-lot-less-sack-happy/2015/12/09/f266edda-9ec1-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html[/url]
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Joe Barry just doesnt blitz. Not his style. Does it seem like it is becoming a trend to not blitz so much? Our last 3 opponents didnt blitz and played soft and I thought that was product of playing us vs the steelers/boys/giants overall approach. But now ... im starting to think it is a trend league wide to not blitz as much. The league wide numbers at the end of the season should tell the story.

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[quote=Chico23231;1149790]heard D Hall is done for the year with torn ACL. Been a good player for us...this could be it for him.[/quote]

Bring on Hitner Whitner

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Great win!!

Very proud of the team today. Was far from perfect but we played tough and aggressive.

I'll even give props to Joe Barry. Defense stepped up big when we needed them.

Don't fall asleep next week... keep it rolling!! :)

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[quote=over the mountain;1149795]I looked for an article where Barry said he doesnt have the personnel to blitz but didnt find it. I did find this article from December last year talking about Barry's tendency to rush 4 and drop back in coverage. Baker wasnt happy with the up front scheme last year either.

“We’ve got to figure out something different scheme-wise to create more pressures,” Baker said. “That’s what’s happening in the games, but we did a good job defensively. They didn’t have any big plays. We’ve just got to keep them out of the end zone on sudden-change opportunities.”
“As a defensive lineman, when you blitz a lot, that means you have to move up out of your gap, and hopefully someone else comes free,” Baker said. “I’d rather just play man-on-man, let us get our man in front of us and play ball. We don’t have to blitz to get pressure.”
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/redskins-are-no-longer-so-blitz-happy-and-now-theyre-a-lot-less-sack-happy/2015/12/09/f266edda-9ec1-11e5-a3c5-c77f2cc5a43c_story.html[/url]
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Joe Barry just doesnt blitz. Not his style. Does it seem like it is becoming a trend to not blitz so much? Our last 3 opponents didnt blitz and played soft and I thought that was product of playing us vs the steelers/boys/giants overall approach. But now ... im starting to think it is a trend league wide to not blitz as much. The league wide numbers at the end of the season should tell the story.[/quote]

Bakers points seem contradictory. He says they need to create new schemes but then he also turns around and says lets just play ball. That is what they are doing and its not working. We aren't getting enough pressure "playing ball". I'm not saying do the Haslett Cover 0 blitZ everyone every 3rd down but we do need to mix in some blitzes throughout the games. I also like the idea of mixing in more man coverage schemes with our zones that we run most of the time.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1149800]Bakers points seem contradictory. He says they need to create new schemes but then he also turns around and says lets just play ball. That is what they are doing and its not working. We aren't getting enough pressure "playing ball". I'm not saying do the Haslett Cover 0 blitZ everyone every 3rd down but we do need to mix in some blitzes throughout the games. I also like the idea of mixing in more man coverage schemes with our zones that we run most of the time.[/quote]

i think he means sometimes play single man coverage and blitz everyone else.

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I'm still perplexed at how there were a few proven defensive coordinators out there and we picked him.

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It seems Barry's criticism might be within the organization as well. When asked about defensive adjustments Gruden responded sarcastically with, "We made adjustments there? Oh, good."

In all honesty I still like Coach Gruden. He's a no nonsense guy who seems to be a smart offensive mind. He still needs work with his Clock-Management and overall Head Coaching duties but I believe he's a "Football Coach" as McC would say.

Barry on the other hand has an expiration at this point. His team seems to have talent, as evidenced by the turn overs and individual plays being made, however they're out of place and seem lost on occasion. Which falls back to the coaching.

I could see Gruden being retained while Barry is shown the door this off-season, unless things change on that side of the ball.

Video of Gruden's comment:
[url=http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/video/jay-gruden-jokes-about-redskins-adjustments-after-week-media-scrutiny]Jay Gruden jokes about Redskins' adjustments after week of media scrutiny | CSN Mid-Atlantic[/url]

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Gruden's sarcastic response was more about the entire staff being criticized lately for not making adjustments. McVay and Barry being the main targets.

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After the 1st 2 weeks embarrassing performances I decided I wasnt going to spend my Sunday getting so frustrated and pissed by watching the game live,decided if they won I would watch it,let me tell you it was a stress free day.

Being able to watch the game having known we won was awesome because all the screwups I was seeing did not cause my head to explode like it normally would:cussing:

Glad Cousins had a good game,{good,not great}To me it seemed like he was locking on one receiver right from the snap and that was who he was throwing it to no matter what,maybe that's what coach told him to do,IDK.

Kirk is going to have to carry this team,this defense is so bad that we are going to have to score points to win,and this FG shit is not going to cut the mustard.
Congrats to Kirk for finally beating a winning team:)

As far as coaching goes,I can't believe everyones letting Gruden{and Cousins} off the hook for that bullshit of trying to go for it with 6 seconds left in the half,no f-ing way was that going to work and we are very lucky losing that 3 points didnt cost us the game.If you have Tom Brady you can try it,if youre the Skins and you have Cousins{who might take a knee:doh:},that's a super super easy decision,you kick the fucking fg Gruden!:mad: I'm ready for the whole staff to go.Another fricking fade route they call that's not even close,I wonder out of the 22td's in the red zone Cousins threw last yr how many we're fades?

And now on to front office,why did we draft Doctson? We needed so much help everywhere else,we did not need a receiver.I got over being upset when he was picked because as Gruden said"He expects Doctson to be a Day 1 contributor.

“You check all the boxes with him as far as ‘person,’ off the field,” Gruden said. “He’s a great person. He has got great work ethic, too. We did our due diligence on that. So you’re bringing in a receiver with the great skillset that he has and a guy that is willing to get better, learn and work. That’s really appealing. I anticipate him challenging for a lot of balls in this offense.”

But instead he's never on the field.The Texans traded with us to move up one and take Fuller{who also missed time in preseason because of injury}and he's kicking ass but our guy never see's the damn field,I dont get it:confused?:

At least we won,no thanks to the coaches and the refs,how that wasnt an interception I dont know,would love to hear the leagues explanation for that one.Great game for Hopkins,he's our MVP right now.
Will not watch game Sunday either,for one I dont have Sunday ticket and two my daughter's taking me to the Texans game

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